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  • D David Wulff

    It will take some getting used to before I can give any constructive feedback, but my initial impression is - I don't like the black side headings. They just look out of place. :~ And I appreciate the effort that has gone in to it all, but the home page... talk about distraction overload. Waaaay too many different different font styles, colours and box styles. On the plus side, the menus are much nicer to navigate. I lied about the feedback bit - the padding around article content needs to be bigger (including the header summary). Why is All Topics underlined? Ok, time for bed... :zzz:


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    Nish Nishant
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    David Wulff wrote:

    Why is All Topics underlined?

    It's the selected tab - if you select another, that'd get underlined instead :-) Regards, Nish


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      David Wulff wrote:

      Why is All Topics underlined?

      It's the selected tab - if you select another, that'd get underlined instead :-) Regards, Nish


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      Since the other tabs are raised, the selected tab should probably look "pressed" - that would give better visual clues as to what's going on.

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      • D David Wulff

        It will take some getting used to before I can give any constructive feedback, but my initial impression is - I don't like the black side headings. They just look out of place. :~ And I appreciate the effort that has gone in to it all, but the home page... talk about distraction overload. Waaaay too many different different font styles, colours and box styles. On the plus side, the menus are much nicer to navigate. I lied about the feedback bit - the padding around article content needs to be bigger (including the header summary). Why is All Topics underlined? Ok, time for bed... :zzz:


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        David Wulff wrote:

        I don't like the black side headings. They just look out of place.

        Agreed.

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        • C Chris Maunder

          We're at the point where the bulk of new code is outweighing the old code and so all back-end caching, pre-calculating and general maintainance is now all .NET. Plus, we've finally made it to the 20th century and stopped assuming 800x600 is the minimum standard. The site will work with sub 1024 x 768 but we just got sick of being so cramped. In doing so I took the opportunity to complete a redesign started about 4 years ago in order to have a consistent look and feel across the site. HTML purists will be happy to see more of the internals are now XHTML, and much of the formatting moved to CSS. Did I mention the 20th century. Yeah, I know... Comments always welcome, most especially when they involve bugs. Edit: Credit where credit's due: I should have mentioned that all praise (and the odd complaint) should go to William Kim, our AdOps manager for the design specifics. cheers, Chris Maunder

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          Mike_V
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          A few things that I noticed: (IE6/XP) The Help!, Articles, etc. menu bar has a _horrible_ flicker when the window is resized! I'm not exactly sure why. The Lounge posts on the main page: the header is smaller than the body, probably due to the Aaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhh! post or perhaps it's a box-model thing, since it renders correctly under Firefox. Also, more a personal preference: why is the Search located at some odd location? Why not left- or right- justified? Or centered? It just seems to be in a very strange spot that ruins the symmetry of the page. Also, why does the article header go in between the main header and the sidebar? It looks a little strange to me. And to be really picky, the ~20px margin around the ads on the right (on user_reply.asp) should include the top. Right now the "Ultimate Toolbox" ad is ~3px below the green nav bar: it just looks a bit odd. --- But overall I'd say a job well done, it will just take a little getting used to. I'm not surprised - and don't be discouraged - to see so many negative comments in the Lounge - for things like this people with negative opinions tend to be more motivated to post than people with good opinions. Good job :jig:; have a :beer: Mike

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          • C Chris Maunder

            We're at the point where the bulk of new code is outweighing the old code and so all back-end caching, pre-calculating and general maintainance is now all .NET. Plus, we've finally made it to the 20th century and stopped assuming 800x600 is the minimum standard. The site will work with sub 1024 x 768 but we just got sick of being so cramped. In doing so I took the opportunity to complete a redesign started about 4 years ago in order to have a consistent look and feel across the site. HTML purists will be happy to see more of the internals are now XHTML, and much of the formatting moved to CSS. Did I mention the 20th century. Yeah, I know... Comments always welcome, most especially when they involve bugs. Edit: Credit where credit's due: I should have mentioned that all praise (and the odd complaint) should go to William Kim, our AdOps manager for the design specifics. cheers, Chris Maunder

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            Ravi Bhavnani
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            Clicking on the title of a post in "Question Time" sometimes takes me to the post (as it should) and sometimes to the all-forums root. /ravi My new year's resolution: 2048 x 1536 Home | Music | Articles | Freeware | Trips ravib(at)ravib(dot)com

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            • C Chris Maunder

              We're at the point where the bulk of new code is outweighing the old code and so all back-end caching, pre-calculating and general maintainance is now all .NET. Plus, we've finally made it to the 20th century and stopped assuming 800x600 is the minimum standard. The site will work with sub 1024 x 768 but we just got sick of being so cramped. In doing so I took the opportunity to complete a redesign started about 4 years ago in order to have a consistent look and feel across the site. HTML purists will be happy to see more of the internals are now XHTML, and much of the formatting moved to CSS. Did I mention the 20th century. Yeah, I know... Comments always welcome, most especially when they involve bugs. Edit: Credit where credit's due: I should have mentioned that all praise (and the odd complaint) should go to William Kim, our AdOps manager for the design specifics. cheers, Chris Maunder

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              Marc Clifton
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              Nice. The orange down the side and top is a bit dominating though. BTW, where'd the "who's who" list go? Marc Pensieve Some people believe what the bible says. Literally. At least [with Wikipedia] you have the chance to correct the wiki -- Jörgen Sigvardsson

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              • R Ravi Bhavnani

                I applaud your choice of CP handle. :cool: /ravi My new year's resolution: 2048 x 1536 Home | Music | Articles | Freeware | Trips ravib(at)ravib(dot)com

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                Ravi Bhavnani wrote:

                I applaud your choice of CP handle.

                Thanks

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                • C Chris Maunder

                  We're at the point where the bulk of new code is outweighing the old code and so all back-end caching, pre-calculating and general maintainance is now all .NET. Plus, we've finally made it to the 20th century and stopped assuming 800x600 is the minimum standard. The site will work with sub 1024 x 768 but we just got sick of being so cramped. In doing so I took the opportunity to complete a redesign started about 4 years ago in order to have a consistent look and feel across the site. HTML purists will be happy to see more of the internals are now XHTML, and much of the formatting moved to CSS. Did I mention the 20th century. Yeah, I know... Comments always welcome, most especially when they involve bugs. Edit: Credit where credit's due: I should have mentioned that all praise (and the odd complaint) should go to William Kim, our AdOps manager for the design specifics. cheers, Chris Maunder

                  CodeProject.com : C++ MVP

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                  Ravi Bhavnani
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                  The white bkg of the Feature Article, Editor's Choice, etc. tables at the home page is hard on the eyes compared to the lightly colored bkg of the Industry News and Weekly Poll tables which affords a much easier read. Would you consider using #F0F0F0 as the bkg instead of white? Thanks! /ravi My new year's resolution: 2048 x 1536 Home | Music | Articles | Freeware | Trips ravib(at)ravib(dot)com

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                  • C Chris Maunder

                    We're at the point where the bulk of new code is outweighing the old code and so all back-end caching, pre-calculating and general maintainance is now all .NET. Plus, we've finally made it to the 20th century and stopped assuming 800x600 is the minimum standard. The site will work with sub 1024 x 768 but we just got sick of being so cramped. In doing so I took the opportunity to complete a redesign started about 4 years ago in order to have a consistent look and feel across the site. HTML purists will be happy to see more of the internals are now XHTML, and much of the formatting moved to CSS. Did I mention the 20th century. Yeah, I know... Comments always welcome, most especially when they involve bugs. Edit: Credit where credit's due: I should have mentioned that all praise (and the odd complaint) should go to William Kim, our AdOps manager for the design specifics. cheers, Chris Maunder

                    CodeProject.com : C++ MVP

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                    Megan Forbes
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                    Nice and clean Chris. The green is a little too much contrast to the orange for my taste, but you can't please everyone all the of the time :). Only thought I'd say as you asked for opinions.


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                    • C Chris Maunder

                      We're at the point where the bulk of new code is outweighing the old code and so all back-end caching, pre-calculating and general maintainance is now all .NET. Plus, we've finally made it to the 20th century and stopped assuming 800x600 is the minimum standard. The site will work with sub 1024 x 768 but we just got sick of being so cramped. In doing so I took the opportunity to complete a redesign started about 4 years ago in order to have a consistent look and feel across the site. HTML purists will be happy to see more of the internals are now XHTML, and much of the formatting moved to CSS. Did I mention the 20th century. Yeah, I know... Comments always welcome, most especially when they involve bugs. Edit: Credit where credit's due: I should have mentioned that all praise (and the odd complaint) should go to William Kim, our AdOps manager for the design specifics. cheers, Chris Maunder

                      CodeProject.com : C++ MVP

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                      PJ Arends
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                      First impression :wtf: Second impression :confused: But I guess a guy can get used to it. But there is a lot of wasted screen space on this forum. You have a narrow banner ad on the left side but the space you allocate for it is three times as wide as the ad itself. Seems that the main menu (Home, MFC/C++, C#...) is setting the width for the panel. So far I like the old look better. [modified] Ok, I open the site in IE this time, looks a lot better. Just as I am getting used to using FF and CPHog you have to make changes that look like crap in FF but actually look pretty good in IE. [/modified] [modify #2] :wtf::confused: I was going to grap a screen shot of the FF screen for you and when I reopened the front page in FF it is all fixed. I think I will just go away now and come back tomorrow when hopefully everthing is settled down. [/modify #2]


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                      • L Lost User

                        Chris, PLEEEASE get change that green menu stuff at the top! Orange and green is painful! The tigress is here :-D

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                        Trollslayer wrote:

                        Orange and green is painful!

                        But I like it! :(( [Seriously, I do!]

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                        • C Chris Maunder

                          We're at the point where the bulk of new code is outweighing the old code and so all back-end caching, pre-calculating and general maintainance is now all .NET. Plus, we've finally made it to the 20th century and stopped assuming 800x600 is the minimum standard. The site will work with sub 1024 x 768 but we just got sick of being so cramped. In doing so I took the opportunity to complete a redesign started about 4 years ago in order to have a consistent look and feel across the site. HTML purists will be happy to see more of the internals are now XHTML, and much of the formatting moved to CSS. Did I mention the 20th century. Yeah, I know... Comments always welcome, most especially when they involve bugs. Edit: Credit where credit's due: I should have mentioned that all praise (and the odd complaint) should go to William Kim, our AdOps manager for the design specifics. cheers, Chris Maunder

                          CodeProject.com : C++ MVP

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                          code frog 0
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                          Gosh I totally love it. Orange is one of my favorite colors though. It's awesome Chris!


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                          • C Chris Maunder

                            We're at the point where the bulk of new code is outweighing the old code and so all back-end caching, pre-calculating and general maintainance is now all .NET. Plus, we've finally made it to the 20th century and stopped assuming 800x600 is the minimum standard. The site will work with sub 1024 x 768 but we just got sick of being so cramped. In doing so I took the opportunity to complete a redesign started about 4 years ago in order to have a consistent look and feel across the site. HTML purists will be happy to see more of the internals are now XHTML, and much of the formatting moved to CSS. Did I mention the 20th century. Yeah, I know... Comments always welcome, most especially when they involve bugs. Edit: Credit where credit's due: I should have mentioned that all praise (and the odd complaint) should go to William Kim, our AdOps manager for the design specifics. cheers, Chris Maunder

                            CodeProject.com : C++ MVP

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                            Vagif Abilov
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                            New look is great! I personally like it much better. Вагиф Абилов MCP (Visual C++) Oslo, Norway If you're in a war, instead of throwing a hand grenade at the enemy, throw one of those small pumpkins. Maybe it'll make everyone think how stupid war is, and while they are thinking, you can throw a real grenade at them. Jack Handey.

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                              Since the other tabs are raised, the selected tab should probably look "pressed" - that would give better visual clues as to what's going on.

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                              David Wulff
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                              I agree, and it wouldn't hurt to have '(selected)' in the button tooltip.


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                              • C Chris Maunder

                                We're at the point where the bulk of new code is outweighing the old code and so all back-end caching, pre-calculating and general maintainance is now all .NET. Plus, we've finally made it to the 20th century and stopped assuming 800x600 is the minimum standard. The site will work with sub 1024 x 768 but we just got sick of being so cramped. In doing so I took the opportunity to complete a redesign started about 4 years ago in order to have a consistent look and feel across the site. HTML purists will be happy to see more of the internals are now XHTML, and much of the formatting moved to CSS. Did I mention the 20th century. Yeah, I know... Comments always welcome, most especially when they involve bugs. Edit: Credit where credit's due: I should have mentioned that all praise (and the odd complaint) should go to William Kim, our AdOps manager for the design specifics. cheers, Chris Maunder

                                CodeProject.com : C++ MVP

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                                hairy_hats
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                                Chris Maunder wrote:

                                The site will work with sub 1024 x 768 but we just got sick of being so cramped.

                                Generally like the new look, but using FF at 1280 wide, the right-hand column falls off the RHS of the screen!

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                                • C Chris Maunder

                                  We're at the point where the bulk of new code is outweighing the old code and so all back-end caching, pre-calculating and general maintainance is now all .NET. Plus, we've finally made it to the 20th century and stopped assuming 800x600 is the minimum standard. The site will work with sub 1024 x 768 but we just got sick of being so cramped. In doing so I took the opportunity to complete a redesign started about 4 years ago in order to have a consistent look and feel across the site. HTML purists will be happy to see more of the internals are now XHTML, and much of the formatting moved to CSS. Did I mention the 20th century. Yeah, I know... Comments always welcome, most especially when they involve bugs. Edit: Credit where credit's due: I should have mentioned that all praise (and the odd complaint) should go to William Kim, our AdOps manager for the design specifics. cheers, Chris Maunder

                                  CodeProject.com : C++ MVP

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                                  Chris Maunder wrote:

                                  Edit: Credit where credit's due: I should have mentioned that all praise (and the odd complaint) should go to William Kim, our AdOps manager for the design specifics.

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                                  • C Chris Maunder

                                    We're at the point where the bulk of new code is outweighing the old code and so all back-end caching, pre-calculating and general maintainance is now all .NET. Plus, we've finally made it to the 20th century and stopped assuming 800x600 is the minimum standard. The site will work with sub 1024 x 768 but we just got sick of being so cramped. In doing so I took the opportunity to complete a redesign started about 4 years ago in order to have a consistent look and feel across the site. HTML purists will be happy to see more of the internals are now XHTML, and much of the formatting moved to CSS. Did I mention the 20th century. Yeah, I know... Comments always welcome, most especially when they involve bugs. Edit: Credit where credit's due: I should have mentioned that all praise (and the odd complaint) should go to William Kim, our AdOps manager for the design specifics. cheers, Chris Maunder

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                                    Ashley van Gerven
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                                    Overall, I like the new colours & layout. I think the green menu bar is great - really stands out as the primary navigation interface. I think the logo looks a bit amateurish - i.e. the white drop shadow and the squashed font. The top bar doesn't really need to take up so much vertical space. In the lounge the left bar is too wide - since the topics menu is not there. But luckily with Firefox extension I can just right click > remove. Nice job though - overall a worthwhile facelift!

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                                    • C Chris Maunder

                                      We're at the point where the bulk of new code is outweighing the old code and so all back-end caching, pre-calculating and general maintainance is now all .NET. Plus, we've finally made it to the 20th century and stopped assuming 800x600 is the minimum standard. The site will work with sub 1024 x 768 but we just got sick of being so cramped. In doing so I took the opportunity to complete a redesign started about 4 years ago in order to have a consistent look and feel across the site. HTML purists will be happy to see more of the internals are now XHTML, and much of the formatting moved to CSS. Did I mention the 20th century. Yeah, I know... Comments always welcome, most especially when they involve bugs. Edit: Credit where credit's due: I should have mentioned that all praise (and the odd complaint) should go to William Kim, our AdOps manager for the design specifics. cheers, Chris Maunder

                                      CodeProject.com : C++ MVP

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                                      Chris Maunder wrote:

                                      Plus, we've finally made it to the 20th century and stopped assuming 800x600 is the minimum standard. The site will work with sub 1024 x 768 but we just got sick of being so cramped.

                                      What about those of us who read the web in portrait mode on a tablet PC? In portrait mode my screen is 768x1024. Reading an article is difficult when you have to scroll left/right for every line. An option to hide the left bar while reading an article would be useful, as well as allowing that header to shrink down some more. Maybe my next tablet will have higher res in portrait mode :/ --Keith

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                                      • C Chris Maunder

                                        We're at the point where the bulk of new code is outweighing the old code and so all back-end caching, pre-calculating and general maintainance is now all .NET. Plus, we've finally made it to the 20th century and stopped assuming 800x600 is the minimum standard. The site will work with sub 1024 x 768 but we just got sick of being so cramped. In doing so I took the opportunity to complete a redesign started about 4 years ago in order to have a consistent look and feel across the site. HTML purists will be happy to see more of the internals are now XHTML, and much of the formatting moved to CSS. Did I mention the 20th century. Yeah, I know... Comments always welcome, most especially when they involve bugs. Edit: Credit where credit's due: I should have mentioned that all praise (and the odd complaint) should go to William Kim, our AdOps manager for the design specifics. cheers, Chris Maunder

                                        CodeProject.com : C++ MVP

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                                        Sameers Javed
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                                        Looks good. I just had an eye bird review of new home page and it was really good. Just one small thing. I can see the bottom scroll bar which should really not visible on 1024x768 resolution. BTW, I noticed that on home page only. Sameers Need custom software? Contact DevelopersINN[^] Need to add reminders for your Outlook emails? Try Outlook Personal Assistant[^]

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                                        • C Chris Maunder

                                          We're at the point where the bulk of new code is outweighing the old code and so all back-end caching, pre-calculating and general maintainance is now all .NET. Plus, we've finally made it to the 20th century and stopped assuming 800x600 is the minimum standard. The site will work with sub 1024 x 768 but we just got sick of being so cramped. In doing so I took the opportunity to complete a redesign started about 4 years ago in order to have a consistent look and feel across the site. HTML purists will be happy to see more of the internals are now XHTML, and much of the formatting moved to CSS. Did I mention the 20th century. Yeah, I know... Comments always welcome, most especially when they involve bugs. Edit: Credit where credit's due: I should have mentioned that all praise (and the odd complaint) should go to William Kim, our AdOps manager for the design specifics. cheers, Chris Maunder

                                          CodeProject.com : C++ MVP

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                                          Very nice! :omg::wtf:

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