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Microsoft gets € 280.500.000 fine

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  • B Brian Delahunty

    I have to disagree Ray (and nothing to do with the fact that I am joining MS soon). MS were given a huge fine back in 2004 (almost €500,000,000) and then told to provide x-y-z so competitors could easily interoperate with MS products. Apparently, the commission did not specify exactly what x-y-z was and MS did their best to accommodate it (with over 10 large companies stating that MS did provide enough info for anyone to interoperate - most of the companies being from the ECMA standards group). The commission has, since then, clarified what they need and MS are delivering that before the July 24th deadline - so the EU fine them before the deadline. The EU has been cash-strapped for years and it's simply a way for them to fill up their coffers. Over €1,000,000,000 in fines against Microsoft so far yet they don't touch smaller companies abusing monopolies and fine them, for example, Apple - iTunes + iPod with over 90% share of the market and completely lock out competing music players. MS are an easy target with lots of money for the EU to get their hands on. Simple. Sure, they broke some rules, they were fined half a billion euro and told to provide info by a date - the date hasn't come and they are still fined. Seems pretty obvious to me. Regards, Brian Dela :-) Blog^ Co-author of The Outlook Answer Book... Go on, order^ it today! -- modified at 4:11 Thursday 13th July, 2006

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    Jeremy Falcon
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    Brian Delahunty wrote:

    MS are

    You've been talking to Paul haven't you. ;P Jeremy Falcon

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    • B Brian Delahunty

      Rama Krishna Vavilala wrote:

      Any more details?

      I'm joining MS on 2nd of October as a Program Manager on the IIS team. Not sure when I'll relocate to the US yet but probably sometime mid-September. Btw, the ASP.NET cloud control is very :cool:. Regards, Brian Dela :-) Blog^ Co-author of The Outlook Answer Book... Go on, order^ it today!

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      Nish Nishant
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      Brian Delahunty wrote:

      I'm joining MS on 2nd of October as a Program Manager on the IIS team. Not sure when I'll relocate to the US yet but probably sometime mid-September.

      Congratulations :-) Regards, Nish


      Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET (my blog)
      Currently working on C++/CLI in Action for Manning Publications. Also visit the Ultimate Toolbox blog (New)

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      • E Eric Dahlvang

        Marc Clifton wrote:

        (probably using your products in the process)

        I've never thought about how many legal papers against Microsoft have been, and are, written in MS Word. Ironic --EricDV Sig--------- Some problems are so complex that you have to be highly intelligent and well informed just to be undecided about them. - Laurence J. Peters

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        :-D

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        • B Brian Delahunty

          Rama Krishna Vavilala wrote:

          Any more details?

          I'm joining MS on 2nd of October as a Program Manager on the IIS team. Not sure when I'll relocate to the US yet but probably sometime mid-September. Btw, the ASP.NET cloud control is very :cool:. Regards, Brian Dela :-) Blog^ Co-author of The Outlook Answer Book... Go on, order^ it today!

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          Rama Krishna Vavilala
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          Congratulations!!!:)


          My Blog

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          • E Eric Dahlvang

            Marc Clifton wrote:

            (probably using your products in the process)

            I've never thought about how many legal papers against Microsoft have been, and are, written in MS Word. Ironic --EricDV Sig--------- Some problems are so complex that you have to be highly intelligent and well informed just to be undecided about them. - Laurence J. Peters

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            dandy72
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            > I've never thought about how many legal papers against Microsoft have been, and are, written in MS Word. I've always been told that lawyer offices were still WordPerfect's niche, for some reason...

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            • B Brian Delahunty

              Rama Krishna Vavilala wrote:

              Any more details?

              I'm joining MS on 2nd of October as a Program Manager on the IIS team. Not sure when I'll relocate to the US yet but probably sometime mid-September. Btw, the ASP.NET cloud control is very :cool:. Regards, Brian Dela :-) Blog^ Co-author of The Outlook Answer Book... Go on, order^ it today!

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              dandy72
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              > I'm joining MS on 2nd of October as a Program Manager on the IIS team Who at MS isn't a Program Manager? :-D

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              • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

                Congratulations!!!:)


                My Blog

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                Brian Delahunty
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                Thanks :-) Regards, Brian Dela :-) Blog^ Co-author of The Outlook Answer Book... Go on, order^ it today!

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                • N Nish Nishant

                  Brian Delahunty wrote:

                  I'm joining MS on 2nd of October as a Program Manager on the IIS team. Not sure when I'll relocate to the US yet but probably sometime mid-September.

                  Congratulations :-) Regards, Nish


                  Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET (my blog)
                  Currently working on C++/CLI in Action for Manning Publications. Also visit the Ultimate Toolbox blog (New)

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                  Brian Delahunty
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                  Cheers. Thanks Nish. Regards, Brian Dela :-) Blog^ Co-author of The Outlook Answer Book... Go on, order^ it today!

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                  • D dandy72

                    > I'm joining MS on 2nd of October as a Program Manager on the IIS team Who at MS isn't a Program Manager? :-D

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                    Brian Delahunty
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                    Daniel Desormeaux wrote:

                    Who at MS isn't a Program Manager?

                    hehe. Regards, Brian Dela :-) Blog^ Co-author of The Outlook Answer Book... Go on, order^ it today!

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                    • J Jeremy Falcon

                      Brian Delahunty wrote:

                      MS are

                      You've been talking to Paul haven't you. ;P Jeremy Falcon

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                      hehe... when he gets started there is no stopping him! Regards, Brian Dela :-) Blog^ Co-author of The Outlook Answer Book... Go on, order^ it today!

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                      • E Eric Goedhart

                        It's today in the news that Microsoft has been fined with this enormous amount of money because it violated European anti-cartel rules and misused it's dominant market position. I personally think this fine of the EU commission is absurd and at the end consumers will be paying for it, and that's what i really hate :mad: With friendly greetings, Eric Goedhart Skype: eric-goedhart Deep in the fundamental heart of mind and Universe there is a reason. -Slartibartfast

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                        Just like some cities fund their municipalities by employing speed traps and writing lots of speeding tickets, it looks like the EU funds itself with so called anti-trust fines. :| Steve Miller

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                        • B Brian Delahunty

                          hehe... when he gets started there is no stopping him! Regards, Brian Dela :-) Blog^ Co-author of The Outlook Answer Book... Go on, order^ it today!

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                          Jeremy Falcon
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                          Brian Delahunty wrote:

                          hehe... when he gets started there is no stopping him!

                          :laugh: Btw, congrats on the MS thing. Are you moving to the US for it or are you staying on that side of the pond? Jeremy Falcon

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                            Brian Delahunty wrote:

                            hehe... when he gets started there is no stopping him!

                            :laugh: Btw, congrats on the MS thing. Are you moving to the US for it or are you staying on that side of the pond? Jeremy Falcon

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                            Brian Delahunty
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                            Jeremy Falcon wrote:

                            Btw, congrats on the MS thing.

                            Cheers, thanks.

                            Jeremy Falcon wrote:

                            Are you moving to the US for it or are you staying on that side of the pond?

                            Relocating to the US... working on the main campus in Redmond so I'll be relocating to somewhere in the Seattle/Redmond area... I really should start looking into where I'll live before I arrive. Regards, Brian Dela :-) Blog^ Co-author of The Outlook Answer Book... Go on, order^ it today!

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                            • B Brian Delahunty

                              Cheers. Thanks Nish. Regards, Brian Dela :-) Blog^ Co-author of The Outlook Answer Book... Go on, order^ it today!

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                              Nish Nishant
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                              Brian Delahunty wrote:

                              Cheers. Thanks Nish.

                              How do you get a Work-Visa so quickly? Being from Ireland, do you have some separate work-permit quota? Because I thought the H1B work Visa quota was exhausted for this year. Regards, Nish


                              Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET (my blog)
                              Currently working on C++/CLI in Action for Manning Publications. Also visit the Ultimate Toolbox blog (New)

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                              • B Brian Delahunty

                                Jeremy Falcon wrote:

                                Btw, congrats on the MS thing.

                                Cheers, thanks.

                                Jeremy Falcon wrote:

                                Are you moving to the US for it or are you staying on that side of the pond?

                                Relocating to the US... working on the main campus in Redmond so I'll be relocating to somewhere in the Seattle/Redmond area... I really should start looking into where I'll live before I arrive. Regards, Brian Dela :-) Blog^ Co-author of The Outlook Answer Book... Go on, order^ it today!

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                                Jeremy Falcon
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                                Brian Delahunty wrote:

                                Relocating to the US...

                                Well, I have some bad news for ya. If you're looking for beers with flavor, you're coming to the wrong place. :laugh: Other than that it's pretty cool here. Jeremy Falcon

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                                • N Nish Nishant

                                  Brian Delahunty wrote:

                                  Cheers. Thanks Nish.

                                  How do you get a Work-Visa so quickly? Being from Ireland, do you have some separate work-permit quota? Because I thought the H1B work Visa quota was exhausted for this year. Regards, Nish


                                  Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET (my blog)
                                  Currently working on C++/CLI in Action for Manning Publications. Also visit the Ultimate Toolbox blog (New)

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                                  Nishant Sivakumar wrote:

                                  How do you get a Work-Visa so quickly? Being from Ireland, do you have some separate work-permit quota? Because I thought the H1B work Visa quota was exhausted for this year.

                                  Wouldn't surprise me. A century ago we had imigration quotas to keep 'undesirable' immigrants from southern and eastern Europe out, and we all know stupid legislation never dies.

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                                  • N Nish Nishant

                                    Brian Delahunty wrote:

                                    Cheers. Thanks Nish.

                                    How do you get a Work-Visa so quickly? Being from Ireland, do you have some separate work-permit quota? Because I thought the H1B work Visa quota was exhausted for this year. Regards, Nish


                                    Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET (my blog)
                                    Currently working on C++/CLI in Action for Manning Publications. Also visit the Ultimate Toolbox blog (New)

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                                    Brian Delahunty
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                                    Nishant Sivakumar wrote:

                                    How do you get a Work-Visa so quickly? Being from Ireland, do you have some separate work-permit quota? Because I thought the H1B work Visa quota was exhausted for this year.

                                    Same process as everyone else. I got the offer in May and the Micrsoft laywers sorted out everything regarding the H-1B visa petition. I then filled in all the necessary forms on my side, went to the US Embassy in Ireland last Wednesday and had my passport back with the visa inside by Friday. Regards, Brian Dela :-) Blog^ Co-author of The Outlook Answer Book... Go on, order^ it today!

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                                    • J Jeremy Falcon

                                      Brian Delahunty wrote:

                                      Relocating to the US...

                                      Well, I have some bad news for ya. If you're looking for beers with flavor, you're coming to the wrong place. :laugh: Other than that it's pretty cool here. Jeremy Falcon

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                                      Brian Delahunty
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                                      Jeremy Falcon wrote:

                                      If you're looking for beers with flavor, you're coming to the wrong place

                                      :laugh:

                                      Jeremy Falcon wrote:

                                      Other than that it's pretty cool here.

                                      What part of the US are you in? Anywhere near Seattle? Regards, Brian Dela :-) Blog^ Co-author of The Outlook Answer Book... Go on, order^ it today!

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                                      • D dandy72

                                        > I've never thought about how many legal papers against Microsoft have been, and are, written in MS Word. I've always been told that lawyer offices were still WordPerfect's niche, for some reason...

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                                        David ONeil
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                                        I have ran into one of these bugs[^] myself in Word2003. Very annoying. Of course, not as annoying as not being able to figure out how to easily edit Index entries.

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                                        • B Brian Delahunty

                                          Jeremy Falcon wrote:

                                          If you're looking for beers with flavor, you're coming to the wrong place

                                          :laugh:

                                          Jeremy Falcon wrote:

                                          Other than that it's pretty cool here.

                                          What part of the US are you in? Anywhere near Seattle? Regards, Brian Dela :-) Blog^ Co-author of The Outlook Answer Book... Go on, order^ it today!

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                                          Jeremy Falcon
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                                          Brian Delahunty wrote:

                                          What part of the US are you in? Anywhere near Seattle?

                                          Not at all. :sigh: I'm in New Orleans, Louisiana. Jeremy Falcon

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