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  • L Lost User

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/4881474.stm[^] A US citizen living in London, wrote to the BBC news website to express her concern about the amount of abuse she receives because of her nationality. Do other Americans in other Countries have similar experiences? And what should American Policymakers do about it?

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    Richard A. Abbott wrote:

    Do other Americans in other Countries have similar experiences?

    It's been a few years since I've traveled abroad, but I've never experienced anything negative in Germany, UK, Spain, Ireland or France. Keep in mind my longest trip has only been 2 weeks.

    Richard A. Abbott wrote:

    And what should American Policymakers do about it?

    Not a thing, it would be a waste of time, effort and money. Any concerted effort would be easily recognized and taken for what is was. "The trouble with jogging is that the ice falls out of your glass." - Martin Mull

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    • 7 73Zeppelin

      Trollslayer wrote:

      Admit that is it an empire

      I feel the need to be pedantic in that you should not confuse "empire" with "imperialism". By definition, the U.S. is not an empire. While they may exert influence on other nations, they do not exercise dominion over them. It is an important difference and delineates between empire and not empire. Having lived in many countries throughout the world, including the U.S. and much of Europe, I feel the need to state that it is not just the U.S. that needs to invest effort in it's image. Empires are bad in that they exert dominion over foreign cultures. This generally takes the form of oppression or suppression of the native culture in favour of the state that holds dominion over them.

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      thealj wrote:

      By definition, the U.S. is not an empire. While they may exert influence on other nations, they do not exercise dominion over them.

      May I remind you of these?[^]


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      • J Jeremy Falcon

        digital man wrote:

        No one I know or work with has or openly airs anti-American sentiment; quite the reverse, usually. They may not like President Bush and his administration or what he/they represent through their policies but they are smart enough not to confuse Bush with every other American.

        I never once seen a French guy over here treated badly for their nationality. But, I can't swear it never happened. The point is, the world is bigger than you think. :) Jeremy Falcon

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        Jeremy Falcon wrote:

        I never once seen a French guy over here treated badly for their nationality.

        United States House of Representatives cafeterias change names for 'french' fries and 'french' toast[^]


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        • R Red Stateler

          You State Minister is a fool. Your king's an even bigger fool. His daughter (or maybe daughter-in-law), however, can rule me anytime. "Everything I listed is intended to eliminate the tyranny of the majority." -Vincent Reynolds on American Democracy

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          espeir wrote:

          You State Minister is a fool. Your king's an even bigger fool. His daughter (or maybe daughter-in-law), however, can rule me anytime.

          And if she did, that would make her the biggest fool of all. :laugh: The evolution of the human genome is too important to be left to chance.

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          • V Vincent Reynolds

            To clarify my comment: like Judaism and Christianity, Islam is considered an Abrahamic religion. Wow, I bet it's going to be really hard to find someone prepared for an intellectual debate at your level. In lieu of that, I suppose you'll continue to scream and throw feces at those outside your cage. "Pooping" on them, as you call it. Enjoy.

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            Adnan Siddiqi
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            Ignore him Vincent.He believes in Bible which was published by GW Bush and its commonly called KBV(King Bush Version). How are things at your end?

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              Vincent Reynolds wrote:

              To clarify my comment: like Judaism and Christianity, Islam is considered an Abrahamic religion.

              Of course educated people are quite aware of the fact that Islam does not recognize the representation of Abraham in the Bible, which Adnan clearly referenced. An ignorant person wouldn't recognize that obvious fact. Now back to my search for someone capable of intellectual debate. Anyone? "Everything I listed is intended to eliminate the tyranny of the majority." -Vincent Reynolds on American Democracy

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              Adnan Siddiqi
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              Didnt I tell you?I know neocons more than you know Islam.

              espeir wrote:

              representation of Abraham in the Bible

              and what is His(AS) representation in Bible? :rolleyes:

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              • E Ed Gadziemski

                thealj wrote:

                By definition, the U.S. is not an empire. While they may exert influence on other nations, they do not exercise dominion over them.

                May I remind you of these?[^]


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                73Zeppelin
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                Okay, but considering about 80% of those listed are uninhabited , I still don't think that qualifies the U.S. as an empire. If you use that list as your measuring stick, then Britain is still considered an empire: British overseas territories[^].

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                • S Stan Shannon

                  Richard A. Abbott wrote:

                  Do other Americans in other Countries have similar experiences?

                  My son just returned from a two week tour of Europe and England, he reported no abuse of any kind, but was traveling with a large group of other Americans, so didn't have the chance to interact with any of the locals on a one-on-one basis.

                  Richard A. Abbott wrote:

                  And what should American Policymakers do about it?

                  I don't know. More bombs? "You have no concept of the depth and complexity of my beliefs." Jim A. Johnson

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                  Stan Shannon wrote:

                  tour of Europe and England

                  You do know that England is in Europe?


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                  • A Adnan Siddiqi

                    Ms Cox, 29, says she has been called, among other things, "terrorist", "scum", "low life", and feels that she is constantly being held to account for the actions of President Bush and for US foreign policy. Altering one[^] of stan's post: The simple point remains that if a billion muslims majority of Americans refused to tolerate Neocons' terrorism on the level it currently exists amoung Islamic Neocons radicals, such terrorism hatred simply could not continue to exist. However she adds: "Bush is our leader and I respect that. It's a bit like the way you feel about your father. You don't always agree with him, but you would defend him." *No Comments*. BTW,How many pro Bush consider him a *daddy*?

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                    Adnan Siddiqi wrote:

                    However she adds: "Bush is our leader and I respect that. It's a bit like the way you feel about your father. You don't always agree with him, but you would defend him."

                    Hmmmm.... I don't like Tony Blair. If I'm abroad and someone starts commenting on how much they dislike TB I'll heartely agree with them. I would never defend him just because he "is our leader". It isn't how I feel about my father either. I just think she's got a strange set of sensibilities - which is her choice, and she takes the consequences of that choice.


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                    • C Colin Angus Mackay

                      Stan Shannon wrote:

                      tour of Europe and England

                      You do know that England is in Europe?


                      Scottish Developers events: * .NET debugging, tracing and instrumentation by Duncan Edwards Jones and Code Coverage in .NET by Craig Murphy * Developer Day Scotland: are you interested in speaking or attending? My: Website | Blog

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                      Stan Shannon
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                      Colin Angus Mackay wrote:

                      You do know that England is in Europe?

                      Is not! ;P "You have no concept of the depth and complexity of my beliefs." Jim A. Johnson

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                      • C Colin Angus Mackay

                        Stan Shannon wrote:

                        tour of Europe and England

                        You do know that England is in Europe?


                        Scottish Developers events: * .NET debugging, tracing and instrumentation by Duncan Edwards Jones and Code Coverage in .NET by Craig Murphy * Developer Day Scotland: are you interested in speaking or attending? My: Website | Blog

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                        Stan Shannon
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                        Colin Angus Mackay wrote:

                        You do know that England is in Europe?

                        But when traveling it is customary for non-Europeans to distinquish between them. To be accurate, his group went to London, Paris, some place in Austria, some place in Switzerland, Venice and some place in Germany. "You have no concept of the depth and complexity of my beliefs." Jim A. Johnson

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                        • A Adnan Siddiqi

                          Ignore him Vincent.He believes in Bible which was published by GW Bush and its commonly called KBV(King Bush Version). How are things at your end?

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                          Red Stateler
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                          You and Vincent will make very dear friends. You are like-minded. "Everything I listed is intended to eliminate the tyranny of the majority." -Vincent Reynolds on American Democracy

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                          • E Ed Gadziemski

                            Jeremy Falcon wrote:

                            I never once seen a French guy over here treated badly for their nationality.

                            United States House of Representatives cafeterias change names for 'french' fries and 'french' toast[^]


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                            Jeremy Falcon
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                            Nice try, but that has nothing to do with my post about a french guy being treated poorly like with the case of the OP's link. Jeremy Falcon

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                            • 7 73Zeppelin

                              Okay, but considering about 80% of those listed are uninhabited , I still don't think that qualifies the U.S. as an empire. If you use that list as your measuring stick, then Britain is still considered an empire: British overseas territories[^].

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                              Ed Gadziemski
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                              thealj wrote:

                              considering about 80% of those listed are uninhabited , I still don't think that qualifies the U.S. as an empire

                              Four million Puerto Ricans may disagree with that assessment. And the population of Guam alone almost equals the combined population of all British territories. But I agree, on the whole the U.S. is barely an empire if it is one at all.


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                              • R Red Stateler

                                You and Vincent will make very dear friends. You are like-minded. "Everything I listed is intended to eliminate the tyranny of the majority." -Vincent Reynolds on American Democracy

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                                Adnan Siddiqi
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                                Are you jealous espeir?Fix yourself so that we can make a threesome

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