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Does anyone know where I might be able to purchase a boxed licensed copy of VC++ 6.0? [edit] Does it still come with the msdn? [/edit] This statement is false. -- modified at 18:16 Wednesday 19th July, 2006
Chris S Kaiser wrote:
Does anyone know where I might be able to purchase a boxed licensed copy of VC++ 6.0?
:eek: Just when we are thinking of stopping support for it in our products!!![^] Regards, Nish
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Does anyone know where I might be able to purchase a boxed licensed copy of VC++ 6.0? [edit] Does it still come with the msdn? [/edit] This statement is false. -- modified at 18:16 Wednesday 19th July, 2006
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Joe Woodbury wrote:
Check eBay.
I'd be careful about eBay though. I bought "software" there before and received a CDR. So, I tried to get a refund and the seller started chewing me out staying it was legit, etc. And, the fact being it had no case, and a printed serial on a blank peice of paper made it legit I'm sure. :rolleyes: What's worse, PayPal doesn't give you money back either (for their fruad protection) because you were sent something tangable, nevermind it was illegal goods. Jeremy Falcon
I've been burned a few times on eBay. One guy not only sold me a blatantly obvious fake, it didn't even work. Fortunately, the guy refunded me my money. On the other hand, I've bought and sold close to a hundred totally legitimate items on eBay, including most the games I buy. It hasn't quite all paid for itself, but it's been close. (I do avoid obvious bulk dealers and anything not sold and shipped from the United States [some sellers claim they are in the US, but they ship from Thailand--an almost sure sign of fraud.]) Anyone who thinks he has a better idea of what's good for people than people do is a swine. - P.J. O'Rourke
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Ennis Ray Lynch, Jr. wrote:
And if they do, um, er, "become a student"
And then you're not licensed to sell the software you compile with it. It's intended for education purposes only. Jeremy Falcon
But I think you can upgrade educactional licenses fairly simply. One of my unversitys, however, gave out an Enterprise Edition withouth the Popup. They said they had bought a license for the whole student body. Really there is a fine ethical line, I think, in using products in a manner that violates the license agreement when you cannot even buy the product anymore. Of course, the easiest thing to do, is obtain the software by any means necessary and then put an add in the paper or on ebay an buy someones license. (They may no longer have the software). A man said to the universe: "Sir I exist!" "However," replied the Universe, "The fact has not created in me A sense of obligation." -- Stephen Crane
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Does anyone know where I might be able to purchase a boxed licensed copy of VC++ 6.0? [edit] Does it still come with the msdn? [/edit] This statement is false. -- modified at 18:16 Wednesday 19th July, 2006
By the way, while I think 6.0 was a tremendous product, I do recommend biting the bullet and moving to VS 2003. The productivity gains are worth the effort. (I wish I could say the same about moving from VS 2003 to VS 2005.) Anyone who thinks he has a better idea of what's good for people than people do is a swine. - P.J. O'Rourke
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I've been burned a few times on eBay. One guy not only sold me a blatantly obvious fake, it didn't even work. Fortunately, the guy refunded me my money. On the other hand, I've bought and sold close to a hundred totally legitimate items on eBay, including most the games I buy. It hasn't quite all paid for itself, but it's been close. (I do avoid obvious bulk dealers and anything not sold and shipped from the United States [some sellers claim they are in the US, but they ship from Thailand--an almost sure sign of fraud.]) Anyone who thinks he has a better idea of what's good for people than people do is a swine. - P.J. O'Rourke
I'm sure there's legit dealers. I got my copy of flash from eBay. I wouldn't touch a software auction that didn't have a picture of the real item listed. It's seriously a case of buyer beware. Come to think of it, selling off old games seems like a good idea. :laugh: Jeremy Falcon
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Chris S Kaiser wrote:
Does it still come with the msdn?
It will come with MSDN CDs, but it won't come with an MSDN subscription like it used to. Jeremy Falcon
No, I thought it was discontinued from the CDs. I seem to recall that we were told to keep our VC6 CDs as there will be no more. Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog
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By the way, while I think 6.0 was a tremendous product, I do recommend biting the bullet and moving to VS 2003. The productivity gains are worth the effort. (I wish I could say the same about moving from VS 2003 to VS 2005.) Anyone who thinks he has a better idea of what's good for people than people do is a swine. - P.J. O'Rourke
Apart from anytyhing else, the jump in standards conformance from VC6 to 2002 was huge. Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog
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But I think you can upgrade educactional licenses fairly simply. One of my unversitys, however, gave out an Enterprise Edition withouth the Popup. They said they had bought a license for the whole student body. Really there is a fine ethical line, I think, in using products in a manner that violates the license agreement when you cannot even buy the product anymore. Of course, the easiest thing to do, is obtain the software by any means necessary and then put an add in the paper or on ebay an buy someones license. (They may no longer have the software). A man said to the universe: "Sir I exist!" "However," replied the Universe, "The fact has not created in me A sense of obligation." -- Stephen Crane
Ennis Ray Lynch, Jr. wrote:
But I think you can upgrade educactional licenses fairly simply.
Not legally. The license has a clause about that. The software is the same, so that usually works, but it's not technically legal. Educational software doesn't typically give you upgrade rights.
Ennis Ray Lynch, Jr. wrote:
Really there is a fine ethical line, I think, in using products in a manner that violates the license agreement when you cannot even buy the product anymore
Just because MS doesn't sell doesn't mean you can't buy it anymore. Jeremy Falcon
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No, I thought it was discontinued from the CDs. I seem to recall that we were told to keep our VC6 CDs as there will be no more. Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog
Christian Graus wrote:
No, I thought it was discontinued from the CDs. I seem to recall that we were told to keep our VC6 CDs as there will be no more.
We're talking about two different things. If you buy the boxed, retail version of Visual C++ it will come with two MSDN Library CDs for the documentation. If you have an MSDN subcription, Visual C++ 6.0 no longer ships on those CDs. Also, back in the day, MS was giving away a free MSDN Library subcription with the purchase of VC++ 6.0. I know because it's how I got mine. :laugh: Of course, that's over with now. Jeremy Falcon
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Does anyone know where I might be able to purchase a boxed licensed copy of VC++ 6.0? [edit] Does it still come with the msdn? [/edit] This statement is false. -- modified at 18:16 Wednesday 19th July, 2006
Is there a reason you want 6.0? I'd have to agree with Joe again. If you didn't have a specific need for that version, why not get a newer version before you spend the money? Jeremy Falcon
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Christian Graus wrote:
No, I thought it was discontinued from the CDs. I seem to recall that we were told to keep our VC6 CDs as there will be no more.
We're talking about two different things. If you buy the boxed, retail version of Visual C++ it will come with two MSDN Library CDs for the documentation. If you have an MSDN subcription, Visual C++ 6.0 no longer ships on those CDs. Also, back in the day, MS was giving away a free MSDN Library subcription with the purchase of VC++ 6.0. I know because it's how I got mine. :laugh: Of course, that's over with now. Jeremy Falcon
Smartalec... :laugh: This statement is false.
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It does not come with MSDN, your only option is second hand. VC6 support is over, it's not sold, it's not supported. Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog
Figures. I'll find one... I own a copy of 2003, but I really don't like developing C++ in it. This statement is false.
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Check eBay. For example: http://cgi.ebay.com/MS-Visual-Studio-6-0-Professional-Edition_W0QQitemZ130006724673QQihZ003QQcategoryZ80300QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem[^] Anyone who thinks he has a better idea of what's good for people than people do is a swine. - P.J. O'Rourke
Nice. Thanks, but that brings up the question, is this legal? In terms of licensing? I'm an idiot when it comes to this. 132 for the current bid, for a full retail version of professional that's not bad at all.. This statement is false.
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Chris S Kaiser wrote:
Does anyone know where I might be able to purchase a boxed licensed copy of VC++ 6.0?
:eek: Just when we are thinking of stopping support for it in our products!!![^] Regards, Nish
Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET (my blog)
Currently working on C++/CLI in Action for Manning Publications. Also visit the Ultimate Toolbox blog (New)I know, but I'm really missing it for C++... maybe I should just get over it and use my 2003. Its only standard though.. This statement is false.
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Thanks! I didn't even know about this... promising. Not the 132 of the eBay offer, but more grounded in reality. This statement is false.
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Figures. I'll find one... I own a copy of 2003, but I really don't like developing C++ in it. This statement is false.
Given that VC6s compiler is a disaster, and it's STL a joke, I'd recommend learning to live with the IDE that's attached to a half decent compiler. Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog
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By the way, while I think 6.0 was a tremendous product, I do recommend biting the bullet and moving to VS 2003. The productivity gains are worth the effort. (I wish I could say the same about moving from VS 2003 to VS 2005.) Anyone who thinks he has a better idea of what's good for people than people do is a swine. - P.J. O'Rourke
For C++ what productivity gains? I have to beat it into submission to manage my projects the way they're setup. Couldn't I just swap out the compiler? I like the way 6.0 lets you manage the project and workspace. Not every project is in the same solution although they are in my workspace. Trivial, but still worth a few hundred bucks. This statement is false.
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Apart from anytyhing else, the jump in standards conformance from VC6 to 2002 was huge. Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog
Yeah, with regards to template specialization? Couldn't I just swap out the compiler? This statement is false.
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Is there a reason you want 6.0? I'd have to agree with Joe again. If you didn't have a specific need for that version, why not get a newer version before you spend the money? Jeremy Falcon
I already have VS 2003 Standard, and I've adapted in my C# development, but cringed when I tried to work on my old C++ stuff. I have a framework I built that I intend to finish, but its just a bit frustrating. But yeah, you guys might be right. This statement is false.