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  • C Christian Graus

    No, I thought it was discontinued from the CDs. I seem to recall that we were told to keep our VC6 CDs as there will be no more. Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog

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    Jeremy Falcon
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    Christian Graus wrote:

    No, I thought it was discontinued from the CDs. I seem to recall that we were told to keep our VC6 CDs as there will be no more.

    We're talking about two different things. If you buy the boxed, retail version of Visual C++ it will come with two MSDN Library CDs for the documentation. If you have an MSDN subcription, Visual C++ 6.0 no longer ships on those CDs. Also, back in the day, MS was giving away a free MSDN Library subcription with the purchase of VC++ 6.0. I know because it's how I got mine. :laugh: Of course, that's over with now. Jeremy Falcon

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    • C Chris S Kaiser

      Does anyone know where I might be able to purchase a boxed licensed copy of VC++ 6.0? [edit] Does it still come with the msdn? [/edit] This statement is false. -- modified at 18:16 Wednesday 19th July, 2006

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      Is there a reason you want 6.0? I'd have to agree with Joe again. If you didn't have a specific need for that version, why not get a newer version before you spend the money? Jeremy Falcon

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        Christian Graus wrote:

        No, I thought it was discontinued from the CDs. I seem to recall that we were told to keep our VC6 CDs as there will be no more.

        We're talking about two different things. If you buy the boxed, retail version of Visual C++ it will come with two MSDN Library CDs for the documentation. If you have an MSDN subcription, Visual C++ 6.0 no longer ships on those CDs. Also, back in the day, MS was giving away a free MSDN Library subcription with the purchase of VC++ 6.0. I know because it's how I got mine. :laugh: Of course, that's over with now. Jeremy Falcon

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        Smartalec... :laugh: This statement is false.

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        • C Christian Graus

          It does not come with MSDN, your only option is second hand. VC6 support is over, it's not sold, it's not supported. Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog

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          Chris S Kaiser
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          Figures. I'll find one... I own a copy of 2003, but I really don't like developing C++ in it. This statement is false.

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          • J Joe Woodbury

            Check eBay. For example: http://cgi.ebay.com/MS-Visual-Studio-6-0-Professional-Edition_W0QQitemZ130006724673QQihZ003QQcategoryZ80300QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem[^] Anyone who thinks he has a better idea of what's good for people than people do is a swine. - P.J. O'Rourke

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            Chris S Kaiser
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            Nice. Thanks, but that brings up the question, is this legal? In terms of licensing? I'm an idiot when it comes to this. 132 for the current bid, for a full retail version of professional that's not bad at all.. This statement is false.

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            • N Nish Nishant

              Chris S Kaiser wrote:

              Does anyone know where I might be able to purchase a boxed licensed copy of VC++ 6.0?

              :eek: Just when we are thinking of stopping support for it in our products!!![^] Regards, Nish


              Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET (my blog)
              Currently working on C++/CLI in Action for Manning Publications. Also visit the Ultimate Toolbox blog (New)

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              Chris S Kaiser
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              I know, but I'm really missing it for C++... maybe I should just get over it and use my 2003. Its only standard though.. This statement is false.

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              • J Jeremy Falcon

                ...is your friend. Clickety[^] Jeremy Falcon

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                Chris S Kaiser
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                Thanks! I didn't even know about this... promising. Not the 132 of the eBay offer, but more grounded in reality. This statement is false.

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                • C Chris S Kaiser

                  Figures. I'll find one... I own a copy of 2003, but I really don't like developing C++ in it. This statement is false.

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                  Christian Graus
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                  Given that VC6s compiler is a disaster, and it's STL a joke, I'd recommend learning to live with the IDE that's attached to a half decent compiler. Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog

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                  • J Joe Woodbury

                    By the way, while I think 6.0 was a tremendous product, I do recommend biting the bullet and moving to VS 2003. The productivity gains are worth the effort. (I wish I could say the same about moving from VS 2003 to VS 2005.) Anyone who thinks he has a better idea of what's good for people than people do is a swine. - P.J. O'Rourke

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                    Chris S Kaiser
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                    For C++ what productivity gains? I have to beat it into submission to manage my projects the way they're setup. Couldn't I just swap out the compiler? I like the way 6.0 lets you manage the project and workspace. Not every project is in the same solution although they are in my workspace. Trivial, but still worth a few hundred bucks. This statement is false.

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                    • C Christian Graus

                      Apart from anytyhing else, the jump in standards conformance from VC6 to 2002 was huge. Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog

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                      Yeah, with regards to template specialization? Couldn't I just swap out the compiler? This statement is false.

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                      • J Jeremy Falcon

                        Is there a reason you want 6.0? I'd have to agree with Joe again. If you didn't have a specific need for that version, why not get a newer version before you spend the money? Jeremy Falcon

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                        Chris S Kaiser
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                        I already have VS 2003 Standard, and I've adapted in my C# development, but cringed when I tried to work on my old C++ stuff. I have a framework I built that I intend to finish, but its just a bit frustrating. But yeah, you guys might be right. This statement is false.

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                        • C Christian Graus

                          Given that VC6s compiler is a disaster, and it's STL a joke, I'd recommend learning to live with the IDE that's attached to a half decent compiler. Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog

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                          Chris S Kaiser
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                          So why can't I swap out the compiler? Why do I need to get the whole IDE just for the compiler? I don't even use any extensions or the like, I turn them all off, as the library is cross platform. Linux/Windows. This is what's really frustrating about VS2005, and the jump from 2002 to 2003. This statement is false.

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                          • C Chris S Kaiser

                            Yeah, with regards to template specialization? Couldn't I just swap out the compiler? This statement is false.

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                            Christian Graus
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                            Chris S Kaiser wrote:

                            template specialization

                            That would be a major one, yes.

                            Chris S Kaiser wrote:

                            Couldn't I just swap out the compiler?

                            Hmmm.... perhaps. I'd still advocate biting the bullet. I still use VC6, but being comfortable in all permutations certainly means I can work in whatever a potential employer wants me to. VC6 won't support the latest PSDK, in fact it's not supported the PSDK for a couple of years, I think. Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog

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                            • C Chris S Kaiser

                              Does anyone know where I might be able to purchase a boxed licensed copy of VC++ 6.0? [edit] Does it still come with the msdn? [/edit] This statement is false. -- modified at 18:16 Wednesday 19th July, 2006

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                              Chris S Kaiser wrote:

                              Does it still come with the msdn?

                              If you have MSDN subscription, you can download it from subscriber downloads. I downloaded VB6 a while back because someone threw away the CDs (at work) and I needed VB6 for a project. I saw that C++ was also available for download. I am not sure whether it is legal for any one to send the CDs to you? Otherwise you can always subscribe to MSDN and hope download it.;)


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                              • C Chris S Kaiser

                                Thanks! I didn't even know about this... promising. Not the 132 of the eBay offer, but more grounded in reality. This statement is false.

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                                Jeremy Falcon
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                                Well, knowing Google, it'll only be in beta for another 10 years. :) Jeremy Falcon

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                                • C Christian Graus

                                  Chris S Kaiser wrote:

                                  template specialization

                                  That would be a major one, yes.

                                  Chris S Kaiser wrote:

                                  Couldn't I just swap out the compiler?

                                  Hmmm.... perhaps. I'd still advocate biting the bullet. I still use VC6, but being comfortable in all permutations certainly means I can work in whatever a potential employer wants me to. VC6 won't support the latest PSDK, in fact it's not supported the PSDK for a couple of years, I think. Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog

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                                  Chris S Kaiser
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                                  Yeah, I work in VS2003, but this is for my personal stuff. I have a cross platform library that has some nifty stuff, so, nothing MS specific. Mostly I don't like how it forces me to conform to its notion of project management. I liked workspaces. I don't like solutions. That's probably the bulk of it. Just standard C++. So yeah, I'd like the conformancy, but I should be able to get that from the compiler alone. Where is the one great true toolset?!? As my momma used to say: wish in one hand and ..... in the other. See which one fills up faster. This statement is false.

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                                  • C Chris S Kaiser

                                    Does anyone know where I might be able to purchase a boxed licensed copy of VC++ 6.0? [edit] Does it still come with the msdn? [/edit] This statement is false. -- modified at 18:16 Wednesday 19th July, 2006

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                                    In December, MS had to shop shipping all their products that included their Java VM. Among the more notable things pulled were Win 2K and VC 6. :((

                                    --Mike-- Visual C++ MVP :cool: LINKS~! Ericahist | PimpFish | CP SearchBar v3.0 | C++ Forum FAQ

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                                    • M Michael Dunn

                                      In December, MS had to shop shipping all their products that included their Java VM. Among the more notable things pulled were Win 2K and VC 6. :((

                                      --Mike-- Visual C++ MVP :cool: LINKS~! Ericahist | PimpFish | CP SearchBar v3.0 | C++ Forum FAQ

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                                      Chris S Kaiser
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                                      Bummer. I still use Win2k at home. I usually skip a few iterations before upgrading. This statement is false.

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                                      • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

                                        Chris S Kaiser wrote:

                                        Does it still come with the msdn?

                                        If you have MSDN subscription, you can download it from subscriber downloads. I downloaded VB6 a while back because someone threw away the CDs (at work) and I needed VB6 for a project. I saw that C++ was also available for download. I am not sure whether it is legal for any one to send the CDs to you? Otherwise you can always subscribe to MSDN and hope download it.;)


                                        My Blog

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                                        Chris S Kaiser
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                                        Thanks. I think the froogle thing will be an option first. I plan on getting the subscription, but there are other things my wife wants me to get first. ;) This statement is false.

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                                        • C Chris S Kaiser

                                          Smartalec... :laugh: This statement is false.

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                                          Jeremy Falcon
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                                          Chris S Kaiser wrote:

                                          Smartalec

                                          :confused: I don't get it. If I'm gonna be a smart arse (intentionally) I'm gonna do it with style. :-> Jeremy Falcon

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