VC++ 6.0 [modified]
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By the way, while I think 6.0 was a tremendous product, I do recommend biting the bullet and moving to VS 2003. The productivity gains are worth the effort. (I wish I could say the same about moving from VS 2003 to VS 2005.) Anyone who thinks he has a better idea of what's good for people than people do is a swine. - P.J. O'Rourke
For C++ what productivity gains? I have to beat it into submission to manage my projects the way they're setup. Couldn't I just swap out the compiler? I like the way 6.0 lets you manage the project and workspace. Not every project is in the same solution although they are in my workspace. Trivial, but still worth a few hundred bucks. This statement is false.
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Apart from anytyhing else, the jump in standards conformance from VC6 to 2002 was huge. Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog
Yeah, with regards to template specialization? Couldn't I just swap out the compiler? This statement is false.
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Is there a reason you want 6.0? I'd have to agree with Joe again. If you didn't have a specific need for that version, why not get a newer version before you spend the money? Jeremy Falcon
I already have VS 2003 Standard, and I've adapted in my C# development, but cringed when I tried to work on my old C++ stuff. I have a framework I built that I intend to finish, but its just a bit frustrating. But yeah, you guys might be right. This statement is false.
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Given that VC6s compiler is a disaster, and it's STL a joke, I'd recommend learning to live with the IDE that's attached to a half decent compiler. Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog
So why can't I swap out the compiler? Why do I need to get the whole IDE just for the compiler? I don't even use any extensions or the like, I turn them all off, as the library is cross platform. Linux/Windows. This is what's really frustrating about VS2005, and the jump from 2002 to 2003. This statement is false.
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Yeah, with regards to template specialization? Couldn't I just swap out the compiler? This statement is false.
Chris S Kaiser wrote:
template specialization
That would be a major one, yes.
Chris S Kaiser wrote:
Couldn't I just swap out the compiler?
Hmmm.... perhaps. I'd still advocate biting the bullet. I still use VC6, but being comfortable in all permutations certainly means I can work in whatever a potential employer wants me to. VC6 won't support the latest PSDK, in fact it's not supported the PSDK for a couple of years, I think. Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog
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Does anyone know where I might be able to purchase a boxed licensed copy of VC++ 6.0? [edit] Does it still come with the msdn? [/edit] This statement is false. -- modified at 18:16 Wednesday 19th July, 2006
Chris S Kaiser wrote:
Does it still come with the msdn?
If you have MSDN subscription, you can download it from subscriber downloads. I downloaded VB6 a while back because someone threw away the CDs (at work) and I needed VB6 for a project. I saw that C++ was also available for download. I am not sure whether it is legal for any one to send the CDs to you? Otherwise you can always subscribe to MSDN and hope download it.;)
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Thanks! I didn't even know about this... promising. Not the 132 of the eBay offer, but more grounded in reality. This statement is false.
Well, knowing Google, it'll only be in beta for another 10 years. :) Jeremy Falcon
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Chris S Kaiser wrote:
template specialization
That would be a major one, yes.
Chris S Kaiser wrote:
Couldn't I just swap out the compiler?
Hmmm.... perhaps. I'd still advocate biting the bullet. I still use VC6, but being comfortable in all permutations certainly means I can work in whatever a potential employer wants me to. VC6 won't support the latest PSDK, in fact it's not supported the PSDK for a couple of years, I think. Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog
Yeah, I work in VS2003, but this is for my personal stuff. I have a cross platform library that has some nifty stuff, so, nothing MS specific. Mostly I don't like how it forces me to conform to its notion of project management. I liked workspaces. I don't like solutions. That's probably the bulk of it. Just standard C++. So yeah, I'd like the conformancy, but I should be able to get that from the compiler alone. Where is the one great true toolset?!? As my momma used to say: wish in one hand and ..... in the other. See which one fills up faster. This statement is false.
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Does anyone know where I might be able to purchase a boxed licensed copy of VC++ 6.0? [edit] Does it still come with the msdn? [/edit] This statement is false. -- modified at 18:16 Wednesday 19th July, 2006
In December, MS had to shop shipping all their products that included their Java VM. Among the more notable things pulled were Win 2K and VC 6. :((
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In December, MS had to shop shipping all their products that included their Java VM. Among the more notable things pulled were Win 2K and VC 6. :((
--Mike-- Visual C++ MVP :cool: LINKS~! Ericahist | PimpFish | CP SearchBar v3.0 | C++ Forum FAQ
Bummer. I still use Win2k at home. I usually skip a few iterations before upgrading. This statement is false.
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Chris S Kaiser wrote:
Does it still come with the msdn?
If you have MSDN subscription, you can download it from subscriber downloads. I downloaded VB6 a while back because someone threw away the CDs (at work) and I needed VB6 for a project. I saw that C++ was also available for download. I am not sure whether it is legal for any one to send the CDs to you? Otherwise you can always subscribe to MSDN and hope download it.;)
Thanks. I think the froogle thing will be an option first. I plan on getting the subscription, but there are other things my wife wants me to get first. ;) This statement is false.
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Smartalec... :laugh: This statement is false.
Chris S Kaiser wrote:
Smartalec
:confused: I don't get it. If I'm gonna be a smart arse (intentionally) I'm gonna do it with style. :-> Jeremy Falcon
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Chris S Kaiser wrote:
Smartalec
:confused: I don't get it. If I'm gonna be a smart arse (intentionally) I'm gonna do it with style. :-> Jeremy Falcon
Didn't you say it came with the msdn cds meaning not that you get it on the msdn subscription, but when you do get it, you get the msdn library? :suss: This statement is false.
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Didn't you say it came with the msdn cds meaning not that you get it on the msdn subscription, but when you do get it, you get the msdn library? :suss: This statement is false.
Chris S Kaiser wrote:
Didn't you say it came with the msdn cds meaning not that you get it on the msdn subscription, but when you do get it, you get the msdn library?
No. You're confusing the MSDN Library CDs with MSDN Subscription CDs. If you buy the retail box it will have 3 CDs in it. One application CD and two MSDN Library CDs. But that's not a subscription, it's just documentation. Now, for MSDN Subscribers, VC++ no longer ships on the CDs released by MS. To make matters even more confusing, for a while MS was giving away an MSDN Library subscription with the purchase of VC++ 6.0. Jeremy Falcon
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Does anyone know where I might be able to purchase a boxed licensed copy of VC++ 6.0? [edit] Does it still come with the msdn? [/edit] This statement is false. -- modified at 18:16 Wednesday 19th July, 2006
Ebay. The tigress is here :-D
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Chris S Kaiser wrote:
Didn't you say it came with the msdn cds meaning not that you get it on the msdn subscription, but when you do get it, you get the msdn library?
No. You're confusing the MSDN Library CDs with MSDN Subscription CDs. If you buy the retail box it will have 3 CDs in it. One application CD and two MSDN Library CDs. But that's not a subscription, it's just documentation. Now, for MSDN Subscribers, VC++ no longer ships on the CDs released by MS. To make matters even more confusing, for a while MS was giving away an MSDN Library subscription with the purchase of VC++ 6.0. Jeremy Falcon
Jeremy Falcon wrote:
No. You're confusing the MSDN Library CDs with MSDN Subscription CDs.
Actually I thought you were on purpose... oh well. My mistake. :laugh: This statement is false.
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So why can't I swap out the compiler? Why do I need to get the whole IDE just for the compiler? I don't even use any extensions or the like, I turn them all off, as the library is cross platform. Linux/Windows. This is what's really frustrating about VS2005, and the jump from 2002 to 2003. This statement is false.
Chris S Kaiser wrote:
So why can't I swap out the compiler?
I didn't say you can't, I'm sure you can. Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog
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Jeremy Falcon wrote:
No. You're confusing the MSDN Library CDs with MSDN Subscription CDs.
Actually I thought you were on purpose... oh well. My mistake. :laugh: This statement is false.
Chris S Kaiser wrote:
Actually I thought you were on purpose..
:laugh: Nah, I'm usually not a smart arse on Wednesdays. :) Jeremy Falcon
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Chris S Kaiser wrote:
So why can't I swap out the compiler?
I didn't say you can't, I'm sure you can. Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog
Then that's it then. 6.0 IDE with the 2003 C++ compiler. Best of both worlds. But do you know if the license is transferable? I like that one on EBay but if the license isn't transferable then its worthless. This statement is false.
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Chris S Kaiser wrote:
Actually I thought you were on purpose..
:laugh: Nah, I'm usually not a smart arse on Wednesdays. :) Jeremy Falcon
Oh your right, today is Wednesday. My apologies. :laugh: This statement is false.