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  • C Christian Graus

    Given that VC6s compiler is a disaster, and it's STL a joke, I'd recommend learning to live with the IDE that's attached to a half decent compiler. Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog

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    So why can't I swap out the compiler? Why do I need to get the whole IDE just for the compiler? I don't even use any extensions or the like, I turn them all off, as the library is cross platform. Linux/Windows. This is what's really frustrating about VS2005, and the jump from 2002 to 2003. This statement is false.

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      Yeah, with regards to template specialization? Couldn't I just swap out the compiler? This statement is false.

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      Christian Graus
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      Chris S Kaiser wrote:

      template specialization

      That would be a major one, yes.

      Chris S Kaiser wrote:

      Couldn't I just swap out the compiler?

      Hmmm.... perhaps. I'd still advocate biting the bullet. I still use VC6, but being comfortable in all permutations certainly means I can work in whatever a potential employer wants me to. VC6 won't support the latest PSDK, in fact it's not supported the PSDK for a couple of years, I think. Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog

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      • C Chris S Kaiser

        Does anyone know where I might be able to purchase a boxed licensed copy of VC++ 6.0? [edit] Does it still come with the msdn? [/edit] This statement is false. -- modified at 18:16 Wednesday 19th July, 2006

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        Rama Krishna Vavilala
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        Chris S Kaiser wrote:

        Does it still come with the msdn?

        If you have MSDN subscription, you can download it from subscriber downloads. I downloaded VB6 a while back because someone threw away the CDs (at work) and I needed VB6 for a project. I saw that C++ was also available for download. I am not sure whether it is legal for any one to send the CDs to you? Otherwise you can always subscribe to MSDN and hope download it.;)


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        • C Chris S Kaiser

          Thanks! I didn't even know about this... promising. Not the 132 of the eBay offer, but more grounded in reality. This statement is false.

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          Jeremy Falcon
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          Well, knowing Google, it'll only be in beta for another 10 years. :) Jeremy Falcon

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          • C Christian Graus

            Chris S Kaiser wrote:

            template specialization

            That would be a major one, yes.

            Chris S Kaiser wrote:

            Couldn't I just swap out the compiler?

            Hmmm.... perhaps. I'd still advocate biting the bullet. I still use VC6, but being comfortable in all permutations certainly means I can work in whatever a potential employer wants me to. VC6 won't support the latest PSDK, in fact it's not supported the PSDK for a couple of years, I think. Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog

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            Chris S Kaiser
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            Yeah, I work in VS2003, but this is for my personal stuff. I have a cross platform library that has some nifty stuff, so, nothing MS specific. Mostly I don't like how it forces me to conform to its notion of project management. I liked workspaces. I don't like solutions. That's probably the bulk of it. Just standard C++. So yeah, I'd like the conformancy, but I should be able to get that from the compiler alone. Where is the one great true toolset?!? As my momma used to say: wish in one hand and ..... in the other. See which one fills up faster. This statement is false.

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            • C Chris S Kaiser

              Does anyone know where I might be able to purchase a boxed licensed copy of VC++ 6.0? [edit] Does it still come with the msdn? [/edit] This statement is false. -- modified at 18:16 Wednesday 19th July, 2006

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              In December, MS had to shop shipping all their products that included their Java VM. Among the more notable things pulled were Win 2K and VC 6. :((

              --Mike-- Visual C++ MVP :cool: LINKS~! Ericahist | PimpFish | CP SearchBar v3.0 | C++ Forum FAQ

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                In December, MS had to shop shipping all their products that included their Java VM. Among the more notable things pulled were Win 2K and VC 6. :((

                --Mike-- Visual C++ MVP :cool: LINKS~! Ericahist | PimpFish | CP SearchBar v3.0 | C++ Forum FAQ

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                Chris S Kaiser
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                Bummer. I still use Win2k at home. I usually skip a few iterations before upgrading. This statement is false.

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                • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

                  Chris S Kaiser wrote:

                  Does it still come with the msdn?

                  If you have MSDN subscription, you can download it from subscriber downloads. I downloaded VB6 a while back because someone threw away the CDs (at work) and I needed VB6 for a project. I saw that C++ was also available for download. I am not sure whether it is legal for any one to send the CDs to you? Otherwise you can always subscribe to MSDN and hope download it.;)


                  My Blog

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                  Chris S Kaiser
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                  Thanks. I think the froogle thing will be an option first. I plan on getting the subscription, but there are other things my wife wants me to get first. ;) This statement is false.

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                  • C Chris S Kaiser

                    Smartalec... :laugh: This statement is false.

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                    Jeremy Falcon
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                    Chris S Kaiser wrote:

                    Smartalec

                    :confused: I don't get it. If I'm gonna be a smart arse (intentionally) I'm gonna do it with style. :-> Jeremy Falcon

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                    • J Jeremy Falcon

                      Chris S Kaiser wrote:

                      Smartalec

                      :confused: I don't get it. If I'm gonna be a smart arse (intentionally) I'm gonna do it with style. :-> Jeremy Falcon

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                      Chris S Kaiser
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                      Didn't you say it came with the msdn cds meaning not that you get it on the msdn subscription, but when you do get it, you get the msdn library? :suss: This statement is false.

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                      • C Chris S Kaiser

                        Didn't you say it came with the msdn cds meaning not that you get it on the msdn subscription, but when you do get it, you get the msdn library? :suss: This statement is false.

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                        Chris S Kaiser wrote:

                        Didn't you say it came with the msdn cds meaning not that you get it on the msdn subscription, but when you do get it, you get the msdn library?

                        No. You're confusing the MSDN Library CDs with MSDN Subscription CDs. If you buy the retail box it will have 3 CDs in it. One application CD and two MSDN Library CDs. But that's not a subscription, it's just documentation. Now, for MSDN Subscribers, VC++ no longer ships on the CDs released by MS. To make matters even more confusing, for a while MS was giving away an MSDN Library subscription with the purchase of VC++ 6.0. Jeremy Falcon

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                        • C Chris S Kaiser

                          Does anyone know where I might be able to purchase a boxed licensed copy of VC++ 6.0? [edit] Does it still come with the msdn? [/edit] This statement is false. -- modified at 18:16 Wednesday 19th July, 2006

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                          Ebay. The tigress is here :-D

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                            Chris S Kaiser wrote:

                            Didn't you say it came with the msdn cds meaning not that you get it on the msdn subscription, but when you do get it, you get the msdn library?

                            No. You're confusing the MSDN Library CDs with MSDN Subscription CDs. If you buy the retail box it will have 3 CDs in it. One application CD and two MSDN Library CDs. But that's not a subscription, it's just documentation. Now, for MSDN Subscribers, VC++ no longer ships on the CDs released by MS. To make matters even more confusing, for a while MS was giving away an MSDN Library subscription with the purchase of VC++ 6.0. Jeremy Falcon

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                            Chris S Kaiser
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                            Jeremy Falcon wrote:

                            No. You're confusing the MSDN Library CDs with MSDN Subscription CDs.

                            Actually I thought you were on purpose... oh well. My mistake. :laugh: This statement is false.

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                            • C Chris S Kaiser

                              So why can't I swap out the compiler? Why do I need to get the whole IDE just for the compiler? I don't even use any extensions or the like, I turn them all off, as the library is cross platform. Linux/Windows. This is what's really frustrating about VS2005, and the jump from 2002 to 2003. This statement is false.

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                              Christian Graus
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                              Chris S Kaiser wrote:

                              So why can't I swap out the compiler?

                              I didn't say you can't, I'm sure you can. Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog

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                              • C Chris S Kaiser

                                Jeremy Falcon wrote:

                                No. You're confusing the MSDN Library CDs with MSDN Subscription CDs.

                                Actually I thought you were on purpose... oh well. My mistake. :laugh: This statement is false.

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                                Jeremy Falcon
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                                Chris S Kaiser wrote:

                                Actually I thought you were on purpose..

                                :laugh: Nah, I'm usually not a smart arse on Wednesdays. :) Jeremy Falcon

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                                • C Christian Graus

                                  Chris S Kaiser wrote:

                                  So why can't I swap out the compiler?

                                  I didn't say you can't, I'm sure you can. Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog

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                                  Chris S Kaiser
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                                  Then that's it then. 6.0 IDE with the 2003 C++ compiler. Best of both worlds. But do you know if the license is transferable? I like that one on EBay but if the license isn't transferable then its worthless. This statement is false.

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                                  • J Jeremy Falcon

                                    Chris S Kaiser wrote:

                                    Actually I thought you were on purpose..

                                    :laugh: Nah, I'm usually not a smart arse on Wednesdays. :) Jeremy Falcon

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                                    Chris S Kaiser
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                                    Oh your right, today is Wednesday. My apologies. :laugh: This statement is false.

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                                    • J Jeremy Falcon

                                      Ennis Ray Lynch, Jr. wrote:

                                      And if they do, um, er, "become a student"

                                      And then you're not licensed to sell the software you compile with it. It's intended for education purposes only. Jeremy Falcon

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                                      Jorgen Sigvardsson
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                                      That's wrong. At least it was. When I bought the student's license, you could sell software you wrote with it. I actually called Microsoft up and asked them about it, as I was doing side business when I went to university. They said "Sell as much as you want..." (but in Swedish ;P)

                                      -- Nominated For Three Glemmys

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                                      • N Nish Nishant

                                        Chris S Kaiser wrote:

                                        Does anyone know where I might be able to purchase a boxed licensed copy of VC++ 6.0?

                                        :eek: Just when we are thinking of stopping support for it in our products!!![^] Regards, Nish


                                        Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET (my blog)
                                        Currently working on C++/CLI in Action for Manning Publications. Also visit the Ultimate Toolbox blog (New)

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                                        Chris S Kaiser
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                                        Hey Nish, I think there might be a bug in the forum. *duck* Did you notice how my reply to Joe got placed below your post? This statement is false.

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                                        • L Lost User

                                          Ebay. The tigress is here :-D

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                                          Chris S Kaiser
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                                          Yep. Two hours left to bid. But I don't know if its valid. Or if the license is transferable. This statement is false.

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