VC++ 6.0 [modified]
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Does anyone know where I might be able to purchase a boxed licensed copy of VC++ 6.0? [edit] Does it still come with the msdn? [/edit] This statement is false. -- modified at 18:16 Wednesday 19th July, 2006
Ebay. The tigress is here :-D
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Chris S Kaiser wrote:
Didn't you say it came with the msdn cds meaning not that you get it on the msdn subscription, but when you do get it, you get the msdn library?
No. You're confusing the MSDN Library CDs with MSDN Subscription CDs. If you buy the retail box it will have 3 CDs in it. One application CD and two MSDN Library CDs. But that's not a subscription, it's just documentation. Now, for MSDN Subscribers, VC++ no longer ships on the CDs released by MS. To make matters even more confusing, for a while MS was giving away an MSDN Library subscription with the purchase of VC++ 6.0. Jeremy Falcon
Jeremy Falcon wrote:
No. You're confusing the MSDN Library CDs with MSDN Subscription CDs.
Actually I thought you were on purpose... oh well. My mistake. :laugh: This statement is false.
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So why can't I swap out the compiler? Why do I need to get the whole IDE just for the compiler? I don't even use any extensions or the like, I turn them all off, as the library is cross platform. Linux/Windows. This is what's really frustrating about VS2005, and the jump from 2002 to 2003. This statement is false.
Chris S Kaiser wrote:
So why can't I swap out the compiler?
I didn't say you can't, I'm sure you can. Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog
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Jeremy Falcon wrote:
No. You're confusing the MSDN Library CDs with MSDN Subscription CDs.
Actually I thought you were on purpose... oh well. My mistake. :laugh: This statement is false.
Chris S Kaiser wrote:
Actually I thought you were on purpose..
:laugh: Nah, I'm usually not a smart arse on Wednesdays. :) Jeremy Falcon
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Chris S Kaiser wrote:
So why can't I swap out the compiler?
I didn't say you can't, I'm sure you can. Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog
Then that's it then. 6.0 IDE with the 2003 C++ compiler. Best of both worlds. But do you know if the license is transferable? I like that one on EBay but if the license isn't transferable then its worthless. This statement is false.
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Chris S Kaiser wrote:
Actually I thought you were on purpose..
:laugh: Nah, I'm usually not a smart arse on Wednesdays. :) Jeremy Falcon
Oh your right, today is Wednesday. My apologies. :laugh: This statement is false.
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Ennis Ray Lynch, Jr. wrote:
And if they do, um, er, "become a student"
And then you're not licensed to sell the software you compile with it. It's intended for education purposes only. Jeremy Falcon
That's wrong. At least it was. When I bought the student's license, you could sell software you wrote with it. I actually called Microsoft up and asked them about it, as I was doing side business when I went to university. They said "Sell as much as you want..." (but in Swedish ;P)
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Chris S Kaiser wrote:
Does anyone know where I might be able to purchase a boxed licensed copy of VC++ 6.0?
:eek: Just when we are thinking of stopping support for it in our products!!![^] Regards, Nish
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Currently working on C++/CLI in Action for Manning Publications. Also visit the Ultimate Toolbox blog (New)Hey Nish, I think there might be a bug in the forum. *duck* Did you notice how my reply to Joe got placed below your post? This statement is false.
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Ebay. The tigress is here :-D
Yep. Two hours left to bid. But I don't know if its valid. Or if the license is transferable. This statement is false.
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Then that's it then. 6.0 IDE with the 2003 C++ compiler. Best of both worlds. But do you know if the license is transferable? I like that one on EBay but if the license isn't transferable then its worthless. This statement is false.
If it's not an OEM, then yes. But the licence cannot transfer without the EULA and other paperwork, make sure it comes with a box and with the EULA ( an OEM does not have a box, I dunno how else to tell ). Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog
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Oh your right, today is Wednesday. My apologies. :laugh: This statement is false.
Chris S Kaiser wrote:
Oh your right, today is Wednesday.
Not here it's not :rolleyes:
Ryan
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For C++ what productivity gains? I have to beat it into submission to manage my projects the way they're setup. Couldn't I just swap out the compiler? I like the way 6.0 lets you manage the project and workspace. Not every project is in the same solution although they are in my workspace. Trivial, but still worth a few hundred bucks. This statement is false.
I agree that the project management stuff can make some configurations more confusing (I had one of those--was never able to get it right in 2003.) But overall, I found the editing and file management to be better and that my productivity improved overall. I also found that when I switched back to 6.0, I found myself getting annoyed at things I had grown used to. Incidentally, I do think that many of these issues could be easily resolved with the 6.0 codebase and if the 2003 compiler were made to work with it, you would have a very compelling product. Of course Microsoft won't do this since they want you to use their latest pile o' crap--VS 2005 (which I am growing to truly loathe for C++ development.) Anyone who thinks he has a better idea of what's good for people than people do is a swine. - P.J. O'Rourke
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Nice. Thanks, but that brings up the question, is this legal? In terms of licensing? I'm an idiot when it comes to this. 132 for the current bid, for a full retail version of professional that's not bad at all.. This statement is false.
With few exceptions (for really high end products) transfering a software license is fully legal. Many of these products are extra stock that retailers find in warehouses, etc. If you are concerned, send an email to the seller. As Jeremy and I discussed, eBay tends to be buyer beware, but I've made a lot of legitimate purchases from there and have an overall very positive experience. Anyone who thinks he has a better idea of what's good for people than people do is a swine. - P.J. O'Rourke
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If it's not an OEM, then yes. But the licence cannot transfer without the EULA and other paperwork, make sure it comes with a box and with the EULA ( an OEM does not have a box, I dunno how else to tell ). Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog
Ok, thanks. That's good to know. This statement is false.
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I agree that the project management stuff can make some configurations more confusing (I had one of those--was never able to get it right in 2003.) But overall, I found the editing and file management to be better and that my productivity improved overall. I also found that when I switched back to 6.0, I found myself getting annoyed at things I had grown used to. Incidentally, I do think that many of these issues could be easily resolved with the 6.0 codebase and if the 2003 compiler were made to work with it, you would have a very compelling product. Of course Microsoft won't do this since they want you to use their latest pile o' crap--VS 2005 (which I am growing to truly loathe for C++ development.) Anyone who thinks he has a better idea of what's good for people than people do is a swine. - P.J. O'Rourke
Joe Woodbury wrote:
Incidentally, I do think that many of these issues could be easily resolved with the 6.0 codebase and if the 2003 compiler were made to work with it, you would have a very compelling product.
That's what I'm hoping. I'll try my hand at 2003 again, and see if I still cringe. This statement is false.
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That's wrong. At least it was. When I bought the student's license, you could sell software you wrote with it. I actually called Microsoft up and asked them about it, as I was doing side business when I went to university. They said "Sell as much as you want..." (but in Swedish ;P)
-- Nominated For Three Glemmys
I'd trust the EULA before I trusted some guy on the phone that probably barely knows what Visual C++ is. :laugh: Jeremy Falcon
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With few exceptions (for really high end products) transfering a software license is fully legal. Many of these products are extra stock that retailers find in warehouses, etc. If you are concerned, send an email to the seller. As Jeremy and I discussed, eBay tends to be buyer beware, but I've made a lot of legitimate purchases from there and have an overall very positive experience. Anyone who thinks he has a better idea of what's good for people than people do is a swine. - P.J. O'Rourke
Well, that's good news then. Just have to make sure they have the EULA intact. This statement is false.
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I'd trust the EULA before I trusted some guy on the phone that probably barely knows what Visual C++ is. :laugh: Jeremy Falcon
The EULA did not prohibit me to sell software compiled with it. That's why I called them to make sure. The EULA was the same as for the regular professional version + the piece of paper that came in the box. I did pay for it, so it wasn't a freebe or anything like that. Just a CD, no books. :)
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The EULA did not prohibit me to sell software compiled with it. That's why I called them to make sure. The EULA was the same as for the regular professional version + the piece of paper that came in the box. I did pay for it, so it wasn't a freebe or anything like that. Just a CD, no books. :)
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The EULA did not prohibit me to sell software compiled with it. That's why I called them to make sure. The EULA was the same as for the regular professional version + the piece of paper that came in the box. I did pay for it, so it wasn't a freebe or anything like that. Just a CD, no books. :)
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Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote:
Just a CD, no books.
BTW, the retail box comes with a book and 3 CDs for VC++ and more for VS. If you didn't get that, then your's was altered. Maybe they gave you the wrong EULA, who knows. Jeremy Falcon