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  • R Rob Graham

    These guys[^] seem to still be selling it, although the price has certainly inflated a good bit...

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    Wow! That's good chunk of change for something 4 versions old.

    "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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    "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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    • S Stuart Dootson

      Chris S Kaiser wrote:

      I liked workspaces. I don't like solutions.

      Aren't they the same apart from the name? That's how I've treated solutions and I've not got bitten.

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      Chris S Kaiser
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      Not in my experience. But part of my troubles is a framework I built on 6 that has issues with 7. Heh, it would be funny if I was depending on the broken compiler from 6, but I'll fix that anyway when I plug in the 2003 compiler into the 6 IDE. Another nitpick.. bookmarks. Alt-F2 is gone. No storage of bookmarks to browse with. They've got other mechanisms to replace em' but.. eh. Its like pulling a Helen Keller, where her parents would rearrange the furniture on her to keep her from becoming complacent. I for one am alright with a little continuity in my IDE. This statement is false.

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      • A Anna Jayne Metcalfe

        Chris S Kaiser wrote:

        So why can't I swap out the compiler? Why do I need to get the whole IDE just for the compiler? I don't even use any extensions or the like, I turn them all off, as the library is cross platform. Linux/Windows.

        You can - but not in VS6. VS2002 onwards allow you to define custom language services - which can use whatever compiler you like - using the Visual Studio SDK. That's how the existing built in languages are integrated, as such as third party plug-ins such as Visual Fortran and Iron Python. Unfortunately the same is not true for VS6. The VS6 IDE is closely wedded to its compiler, and you would have to perform some pretty low level hacks to change that. Anna :rose: Currently working mostly on: Visual Lint :cool: Anna's Place | Tears and Laughter "Be yourself - not what others think you should be" - Marcia Graesch "Anna's just a sexy-looking lesbian tart" - A friend, trying to wind me up. It didn't work.

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        Chris S Kaiser
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        I'm not so sure, people have been swapping GCC for the MS compiler in VC6 I know. Its just one of the tools. But I'll find out. This statement is false.

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        • C Chris S Kaiser

          Does anyone know where I might be able to purchase a boxed licensed copy of VC++ 6.0? [edit] Does it still come with the msdn? [/edit] This statement is false. -- modified at 18:16 Wednesday 19th July, 2006

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          Fernando A Gomez F
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          You'd have to get a "pirate" copy of VC6 and then ask Microsoft for purchasing a new licence. They'll sell you a VC7/VC8 licence anyway, and that'll cover the VC6 licence. A polar bear is a bear whose coordinates has been changed in terms of sine and cosine.

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            Not in my experience. But part of my troubles is a framework I built on 6 that has issues with 7. Heh, it would be funny if I was depending on the broken compiler from 6, but I'll fix that anyway when I plug in the 2003 compiler into the 6 IDE. Another nitpick.. bookmarks. Alt-F2 is gone. No storage of bookmarks to browse with. They've got other mechanisms to replace em' but.. eh. Its like pulling a Helen Keller, where her parents would rearrange the furniture on her to keep her from becoming complacent. I for one am alright with a little continuity in my IDE. This statement is false.

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            Stuart Dootson
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            Chris S Kaiser wrote:

            I plug in the 2003 compiler into the 6 IDE.

            Hmmm - be careful - the VS6 debugger won't work with executables built with the VS2003 compiler - the PDB format changed...

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            • F Fernando A Gomez F

              You'd have to get a "pirate" copy of VC6 and then ask Microsoft for purchasing a new licence. They'll sell you a VC7/VC8 licence anyway, and that'll cover the VC6 licence. A polar bear is a bear whose coordinates has been changed in terms of sine and cosine.

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              Chris S Kaiser
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              It doesn't have to be a pirated copy. There are still boxed versions for sale, just not by MS. And the licenses are transferrable. This statement is false.

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              • S Stuart Dootson

                Chris S Kaiser wrote:

                I plug in the 2003 compiler into the 6 IDE.

                Hmmm - be careful - the VS6 debugger won't work with executables built with the VS2003 compiler - the PDB format changed...

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                Chris S Kaiser
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                Ahh.. that's good to know.. eh, I'll make it work. Maybe find the VC7 compiler. This statement is false.

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                  I'm not so sure, people have been swapping GCC for the MS compiler in VC6 I know. Its just one of the tools. But I'll find out. This statement is false.

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                  Anna Jayne Metcalfe
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                  Maybe I should be a little clearer...It is do-able (Intel integrate their compiler, for example), but the information needed to do it is not something that as far as I'm aware in the public domain. Given that Microsoft no longer support it, that closes off both avenues leaving only reverse engineering and API hooking. Anna :rose: Currently working mostly on: Visual Lint :cool: Anna's Place | Tears and Laughter "Be yourself - not what others think you should be" - Marcia Graesch "Anna's just a sexy-looking lesbian tart" - A friend, trying to wind me up. It didn't work.

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                  • D Dan Neely

                    Anna-Jayne Metcalfe wrote:

                    Visual Fortran

                    This brings back painful memories. Oddly enough not from coding though, the only thing I did was hard code several input parameters in one app. In one of my astronomy classes we had to use a program that took as inputs the surface conditions and composition of a star and then integrated inward to see if they made sense (ie radius too big would result in using up all the mass before reaching the core). We had to do two models each with two user adjustable parameters. The two parameters were coupled so that you couldn't just hold X constant, find the optimum Y, then hold Y constant and adjust X until there was a valid solution, instead, plotting Z=SizeOfError(x,y) would give something that looked like a curving valley with the hills having clifflike drop-off's on the far side of the crests. One model required tuning inputs to 9 decimal places, the second 11. I spent about 15 hours total doing both

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                    Anna Jayne Metcalfe
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                    I have to admit I've never even seen it...I just picked it out as an example I was aware of! Mind you I've never written a line of Fortran in my life (though I did manage Algol-68 instead :doh:) so that shouldn't be a surprise... Anna :rose: Currently working mostly on: Visual Lint :cool: Anna's Place | Tears and Laughter "Be yourself - not what others think you should be" - Marcia Graesch "Anna's just a sexy-looking lesbian tart" - A friend, trying to wind me up. It didn't work.

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                      Does anyone know where I might be able to purchase a boxed licensed copy of VC++ 6.0? [edit] Does it still come with the msdn? [/edit] This statement is false. -- modified at 18:16 Wednesday 19th July, 2006

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                      Chris S Kaiser wrote:

                      Does anyone know where I might be able to purchase a boxed licensed copy of VC++ 6.0?

                      Have you looked in eD2k p2p network? I suppose, with big probability, you'll find it there.

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                        Maybe I should be a little clearer...It is do-able (Intel integrate their compiler, for example), but the information needed to do it is not something that as far as I'm aware in the public domain. Given that Microsoft no longer support it, that closes off both avenues leaving only reverse engineering and API hooking. Anna :rose: Currently working mostly on: Visual Lint :cool: Anna's Place | Tears and Laughter "Be yourself - not what others think you should be" - Marcia Graesch "Anna's just a sexy-looking lesbian tart" - A friend, trying to wind me up. It didn't work.

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                        Chris S Kaiser
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                        Well, I'll have to report back with my post mordem then. ;) This statement is false.

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                        • realJSOPR realJSOP

                          Wow! That's good chunk of change for something 4 versions old.

                          "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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                          Chris S Kaiser
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                          Yeah, no doubt. On eBay that last one went for 430 or something like that. This statement is false.

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                            Chris S Kaiser wrote:

                            Does anyone know where I might be able to purchase a boxed licensed copy of VC++ 6.0?

                            Have you looked in eD2k p2p network? I suppose, with big probability, you'll find it there.

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                            Chris S Kaiser
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                            Nah.. someone on CP offered to mail me one of their copies.. awfully nice of him really. Now I'll have to post them articles.. ;) This statement is false.

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                            • R RahulOP

                              Chris Austin wrote:

                              Honestly, you can have one of my personal copies along with the license.

                              You wouldnt by any chance have an extra license would you?LOL!! I work with MFC at office.Wanted to write a coupla freewares obviously i cant do that at work and impossible to do at home given the prohibitive price of the thing. So short of buying an illegit copy off the roads(possible in India.of course since i plan to put my name on it, just wondering how long before i start getting sued)looks like i'll have to shelve my plans:^)

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                              Johnny Mnemonic
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                              RahulOP wrote:

                              Wanted to write a coupla freewares obviously i cant do that ...

                              IMHO, you should not f-ck your mind with any licenses. Just write your freeware and throw it to the Net. I suppose those who'll get your free proggies won't go and ask you about your licenses, yet if they're not mad. IMHO one should worry about licenses in the only one case - when he'd like to sell something. When you develop some software for enterprise, or some shareware to earn some bucks, then - be so kind to share some revenue with creators of tools you use. And if you develop some stuff for youself/friends/community - dont worry, be happy ;-)

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                                Does anyone know where I might be able to purchase a boxed licensed copy of VC++ 6.0? [edit] Does it still come with the msdn? [/edit] This statement is false. -- modified at 18:16 Wednesday 19th July, 2006

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                                My search for "visual c++ 6.0" yielded 5 sealed in the box copies of VC++ 6.0 Professional (not academic) and they include MSDN Library (but probably not an MSDN subscription, I imagine). Thorn

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                                  My search for "visual c++ 6.0" yielded 5 sealed in the box copies of VC++ 6.0 Professional (not academic) and they include MSDN Library (but probably not an MSDN subscription, I imagine). Thorn

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                                  Have more info so had to reply to my own message. The copies I see on Ebay range in price from almost nothing to buy-it-now price of $169. Thorn

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                                  • C Chris S Kaiser

                                    Does anyone know where I might be able to purchase a boxed licensed copy of VC++ 6.0? [edit] Does it still come with the msdn? [/edit] This statement is false. -- modified at 18:16 Wednesday 19th July, 2006

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                                    mptech programmer
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                                    *cough* limewire *COUGH* *COUGH* (Oh dear, my boyhood Catholic guilt complex is returning...)

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                                    • C Christian Graus

                                      It does not come with MSDN, your only option is second hand. VC6 support is over, it's not sold, it's not supported. Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog

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                                      derry755
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                                      Maybe we can pick it up in a dustbin. hmmm, just joking Doing is better than saying.

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                                      • C Chris Austin

                                        Sorry Rahul, I think the timing was agaist you. I really can't risk jettisioning all of my copies / licenses. Had you been a bit earlier, I would have gladly given it to you. Just for MFC, have you considered VC++ 2005 Express, it is free forever and you can get a hold of it here[^] Again, I am sorry about not having an additional spare to sell. Cheers Chris Austin Hey don't worry, I can handle it. I took something. I can see things no one else can see. Why are you dressed like that? - Jack Burton

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                                        RahulOP
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                                        Hey Chris, No worries man! Good things happen to those who wait. Maybe I can get a copy elsewhere. Maybe someone else will step up and offer me another license Maybe I can convince MS to give it to me for free. Maybe I can get a really really low-priced version somewhere Life is full of possibilities:-D As for the Express,I tried that but it threw a "afxwin.h" file not found error.On a diff forum, i was told that Express doesnt support MFC:^) Life is calling!!Where are you?

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                                        • C Chris S Kaiser

                                          Does anyone know where I might be able to purchase a boxed licensed copy of VC++ 6.0? [edit] Does it still come with the msdn? [/edit] This statement is false. -- modified at 18:16 Wednesday 19th July, 2006

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                                          pg az
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                                          Visual Studio 6.0 definitely still comes with MSDN. I have the "Professional" level subscription, it is CD number 934+935, dated July 2001, and you also get Service Pack 6, disk 773 - as listed in my 2006-July MSDN Index, so although I received my CD's many months ago, since they are listed in the current index it would be misleading if they didn't come in a new subscription you bought today. Anyway you could easily confirm with the salesperson, do you still give me the VC6 disks 934, 935 and 773, both "Yellow". Probably what you really want is the Enterprise edition, if you can get that from eBay or something - of course the Enterprise edition probably comes with the Premium-level subscriptions, but those are Really Expensive. The Service Pack 6 can "of course" be freely downloaded from MSDN. pg--az -- modified at 5:17 Friday 21st July, 2006

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