How many people here still develop apps in Win32 with C/C++?
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Just curious, how many people here still develop apps in Win32 with C/C++? Not WinForm or even MFC, I mean good old fashion WIN32 API with C/C++. Anyone?
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Do you use some fancy tool to build your gui and write all of the database interface code and the communications layer between your clients and servers??? Have you ever written your own memory allocator??? or forgone standard library calls for file access and wrote the code to read the disk sectors yourself??? Have you ever done any serious work using COBOL, RPGII, PASCAL, C ??? If you answered Yes, No, No, No, do you seriously consider yourself to be a programmer!!!???? Perhaps the dev tools of today have replaced the need for behind the scenes, hardcore programming. But is it really programming???
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Just curious, how many people here still develop apps in Win32 with C/C++? Not WinForm or even MFC, I mean good old fashion WIN32 API with C/C++. Anyone?
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Ever heard abount XBase++ (Clipper)? My partner wrote a IDE and framework for it to work in windows ages ago (Win3.1 days). If he try to go to a more modern language, he commits himself to the project, but then fails to deliver and always fall back to developing the software in his XBase framework. He can't program in C++ and XBase is te only thing that he knows and feel comortable with. So, the question is How many people still program in languages designed before the 80's?....
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Do you use some fancy tool to build your gui and write all of the database interface code and the communications layer between your clients and servers??? Have you ever written your own memory allocator??? or forgone standard library calls for file access and wrote the code to read the disk sectors yourself??? Have you ever done any serious work using COBOL, RPGII, PASCAL, C ??? If you answered Yes, No, No, No, do you seriously consider yourself to be a programmer!!!???? Perhaps the dev tools of today have replaced the need for behind the scenes, hardcore programming. But is it really programming???
robasmith wrote:
Yes, No, No, No, do you seriously consider yourself to be a programmer!!!????
YES i do. You get tecnical programmers that do the proramming for the behind the scenes, and you get business programmers (if i could call them that) that program to deliver the final product - doing so in a framework developed by the techical coders. The need for prorammers to do last 3 tasks you listed are obsolete. Why waste time redesigning the wheel? Just put on a goodyear tyre and chrome it.
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Christian Graus wrote:
Either way, looks like you found the only guy.
I'm in the same crowd. That makes three! Woo Hoo. :laugh:
Jeremy Falcon
I'm in the same crowd too, so take me into account:)
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I'm in the same crowd too, so take me into account:)
All right, we're at 4 now! :laugh::laugh:
Jeremy Falcon
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Just curious, how many people here still develop apps in Win32 with C/C++? Not WinForm or even MFC, I mean good old fashion WIN32 API with C/C++. Anyone?
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I learnt C/C++ basically and I studied C#. But .NET is nothing against "WIN32 & C". I will develop my every application with C and C++ with MFC than .NET, is it good? :confused:
Majesty Of Schizophrenia Sönmez Kartal
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Just curious, how many people here still develop apps in Win32 with C/C++? Not WinForm or even MFC, I mean good old fashion WIN32 API with C/C++. Anyone?
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Count me in! Sometimes it's not required to do it, so you do it as fun! and sometimes you need to do it; and this is the time you prefer the dentist's torture!!! but it's fun making the wheel!!! Yeah, count_me_in++:cool:
Signature? what signature!? This is me!!
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Just curious, how many people here still develop apps in Win32 with C/C++? Not WinForm or even MFC, I mean good old fashion WIN32 API with C/C++. Anyone?
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Does MASM32 Assembly count? Structurally it is very similar to C.
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Now I understand why you're frustrated all the time... I wrote a whole window framework in Win32, to bridge to Python. It was fun, but I wouldn't want to do it again. Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog
Can we see what it looks like?
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Can we see what it looks like?
It's a long time ago, I don't have the code, and didn't own it in either case ( it's in a commercial product - http://www.viewbuild.com/[^]
Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog
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Sometimes I feel like I am, but then I realize it's just ATL/WTL. :)
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Count me in. I'm currently writing an Emulator that links USB to the Screen buffer. I do it for speed (I think). It's quite painful though.:zzz:
"You have to be in a situation where you see just how fast things fail to make you take it seriously, I guess. " Bruce Eckel
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Does MASM32 Assembly count? Structurally it is very similar to C.
I dunno if it counts but i agree to you that its very similar to C/C++.:zzz:
"You have to be in a situation where you see just how fast things fail to make you take it seriously, I guess. " Bruce Eckel
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All right, we're at 4 now! :laugh::laugh:
Jeremy Falcon
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Just curious, how many people here still develop apps in Win32 with C/C++? Not WinForm or even MFC, I mean good old fashion WIN32 API with C/C++. Anyone?
======================================= A goal without a plan remains a dream. =======================================
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Just curious, how many people here still develop apps in Win32 with C/C++? Not WinForm or even MFC, I mean good old fashion WIN32 API with C/C++. Anyone?
======================================= A goal without a plan remains a dream. =======================================
I still use C++. My projects have to maintain a "common code base" across UNIX, Linux, and Win32 (and Win64...), and Java is out of the question, for various reasons (like I hate it...) There are some platform-specific modules, etc., but as much as possible is "vanilla" C++ objects.
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Christian Graus wrote:
For *real* old fashioned, you should have said 'just C'.
ditto... There's a big angry nest of us over here :) ! Aloha, Doug
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Some of my friends do it. i can count atleast 3 of them. Including me, it becomes 4 and the total count is 8!!:)
Wow, all this is just too much. :laugh: Glad it's not completely dead yet.
Jeremy Falcon
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Do you use some fancy tool to build your gui and write all of the database interface code and the communications layer between your clients and servers??? Have you ever written your own memory allocator??? or forgone standard library calls for file access and wrote the code to read the disk sectors yourself??? Have you ever done any serious work using COBOL, RPGII, PASCAL, C ??? If you answered Yes, No, No, No, do you seriously consider yourself to be a programmer!!!???? Perhaps the dev tools of today have replaced the need for behind the scenes, hardcore programming. But is it really programming???
Yes, I consider myself to be a programmer (I don't work in programming though). I use Visual Studio to design my GUIs in, as I don't really see the need to code it (since this takes away time to work on the actual application) and I write my own database & communications code. I haven't had the need to write my own code to read disk sectors myself yet, so I use the standard library calls. If I ever need to, however, I'm sure I'll figure it out. I've never used COBOL, never heard of RPGII and I didn't like Pascal. I learned C years ago, and before that I learned Z80 Assembly language on my old Amstrad CPC. So, I've done quite a bit of in-depth programming, so, even though I now use VCS 2005 I don't think that makes me any less of a programmer.
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Just curious, how many people here still develop apps in Win32 with C/C++? Not WinForm or even MFC, I mean good old fashion WIN32 API with C/C++. Anyone?
======================================= A goal without a plan remains a dream. =======================================
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Just curious, how many people here still develop apps in Win32 with C/C++? Not WinForm or even MFC, I mean good old fashion WIN32 API with C/C++. Anyone?
======================================= A goal without a plan remains a dream. =======================================
