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How many people here still develop apps in Win32 with C/C++?

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  • L Link2600

    Just curious, how many people here still develop apps in Win32 with C/C++? Not WinForm or even MFC, I mean good old fashion WIN32 API with C/C++. Anyone?

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    stephen hazel
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    me too! working on a midi sequencer (song editor) http://shazware.com/ditty/ And a few utility apps and such. That's home programming though. Not at work. But exclusively Win32 API and C++ at home. ...Steve

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    • L Link2600

      Just curious, how many people here still develop apps in Win32 with C/C++? Not WinForm or even MFC, I mean good old fashion WIN32 API with C/C++. Anyone?

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      ajdiaz
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      Only to write viruses and hacking tools. Win32 C++ is the best!

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      • L Link2600

        Just curious, how many people here still develop apps in Win32 with C/C++? Not WinForm or even MFC, I mean good old fashion WIN32 API with C/C++. Anyone?

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        Todd Smith
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        Me ... unfortunately.

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        • L Link2600

          Just curious, how many people here still develop apps in Win32 with C/C++? Not WinForm or even MFC, I mean good old fashion WIN32 API with C/C++. Anyone?

          ======================================= A goal without a plan remains a dream. =======================================

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          schaffs
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          I have but recently graduated to a broader audience and usability found in java servlets! I still can and will if needed. There's alot less need for custom Win32 C apps where I am these days.

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          • C Christian Graus

            For *real* old fashioned, you should have said 'just C'. Either way, looks like you found the only guy. Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog

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            doug4350
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            Christian Graus wrote:

            For *real* old fashioned, you should have said 'just C'.

            ditto... There's a big angry nest of us over here :) ! Aloha, Doug

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            • L Link2600

              Just curious, how many people here still develop apps in Win32 with C/C++? Not WinForm or even MFC, I mean good old fashion WIN32 API with C/C++. Anyone?

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              AntiSilence
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              I used to make DOS programs using Borland Turbo C 2.0, then in Borland C++ 3.1 (but I only used C since I didn't know C++) but gave that up about 1995. I switched to Visual Basic (go ahead, laugh!) because I didn't want to waste time coding forms, so VB was good for me because I could design my forms easily, and then concentrate on my program. Now though, I've given VB up, and I'm now doing Visual C# 2005 which is fantastic because it's back to a the C-like syntax that I loved (I prefered it over VB). So now I'm really happy :)

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              • L Link2600

                Just curious, how many people here still develop apps in Win32 with C/C++? Not WinForm or even MFC, I mean good old fashion WIN32 API with C/C++. Anyone?

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                robasmith
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                Do you use some fancy tool to build your gui and write all of the database interface code and the communications layer between your clients and servers??? Have you ever written your own memory allocator??? or forgone standard library calls for file access and wrote the code to read the disk sectors yourself??? Have you ever done any serious work using COBOL, RPGII, PASCAL, C ??? If you answered Yes, No, No, No, do you seriously consider yourself to be a programmer!!!???? Perhaps the dev tools of today have replaced the need for behind the scenes, hardcore programming. But is it really programming???

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                • L Link2600

                  Just curious, how many people here still develop apps in Win32 with C/C++? Not WinForm or even MFC, I mean good old fashion WIN32 API with C/C++. Anyone?

                  ======================================= A goal without a plan remains a dream. =======================================

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                  InOut NET
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                  Ever heard abount XBase++ (Clipper)? My partner wrote a IDE and framework for it to work in windows ages ago (Win3.1 days). If he try to go to a more modern language, he commits himself to the project, but then fails to deliver and always fall back to developing the software in his XBase framework. He can't program in C++ and XBase is te only thing that he knows and feel comortable with. So, the question is How many people still program in languages designed before the 80's?....

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                    Do you use some fancy tool to build your gui and write all of the database interface code and the communications layer between your clients and servers??? Have you ever written your own memory allocator??? or forgone standard library calls for file access and wrote the code to read the disk sectors yourself??? Have you ever done any serious work using COBOL, RPGII, PASCAL, C ??? If you answered Yes, No, No, No, do you seriously consider yourself to be a programmer!!!???? Perhaps the dev tools of today have replaced the need for behind the scenes, hardcore programming. But is it really programming???

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                    InOut NET
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                    robasmith wrote:

                    Yes, No, No, No, do you seriously consider yourself to be a programmer!!!????

                    YES i do. You get tecnical programmers that do the proramming for the behind the scenes, and you get business programmers (if i could call them that) that program to deliver the final product - doing so in a framework developed by the techical coders. The need for prorammers to do last 3 tasks you listed are obsolete. Why waste time redesigning the wheel? Just put on a goodyear tyre and chrome it.

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                    • J Jeremy Falcon

                      Christian Graus wrote:

                      Either way, looks like you found the only guy.

                      I'm in the same crowd. That makes three! Woo Hoo. :laugh:

                      Jeremy Falcon

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                      eldar_2001
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                      I'm in the same crowd too, so take me into account:)

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                        I'm in the same crowd too, so take me into account:)

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                        Jeremy Falcon
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                        All right, we're at 4 now! :laugh::laugh:

                        Jeremy Falcon

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                        • L Link2600

                          Just curious, how many people here still develop apps in Win32 with C/C++? Not WinForm or even MFC, I mean good old fashion WIN32 API with C/C++. Anyone?

                          ======================================= A goal without a plan remains a dream. =======================================

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                          Majesty Of Schizophrenia
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                          I learnt C/C++ basically and I studied C#. But .NET is nothing against "WIN32 & C". I will develop my every application with C and C++ with MFC than .NET, is it good? :confused:

                          Majesty Of Schizophrenia Sönmez Kartal

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                          • L Link2600

                            Just curious, how many people here still develop apps in Win32 with C/C++? Not WinForm or even MFC, I mean good old fashion WIN32 API with C/C++. Anyone?

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                            I_am_achilles
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                            Count me in! Sometimes it's not required to do it, so you do it as fun! and sometimes you need to do it; and this is the time you prefer the dentist's torture!!! but it's fun making the wheel!!! Yeah, count_me_in++:cool:

                            Signature? what signature!? This is me!!

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                            • L Link2600

                              Just curious, how many people here still develop apps in Win32 with C/C++? Not WinForm or even MFC, I mean good old fashion WIN32 API with C/C++. Anyone?

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                              Andrew Glina
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                              Does MASM32 Assembly count? Structurally it is very similar to C.

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                              • C Christian Graus

                                Now I understand why you're frustrated all the time... I wrote a whole window framework in Win32, to bridge to Python. It was fun, but I wouldn't want to do it again. Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog

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                                Kenneth Kasajian
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                                Can we see what it looks like?

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                                  Can we see what it looks like?

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                                  Christian Graus
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                                  It's a long time ago, I don't have the code, and didn't own it in either case ( it's in a commercial product - http://www.viewbuild.com/[^]

                                  Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog

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                                  • Steve EcholsS Steve Echols

                                    Sometimes I feel like I am, but then I realize it's just ATL/WTL. :)


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                                    Kuroro Rucilful
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                                    Count me in. I'm currently writing an Emulator that links USB to the Screen buffer. I do it for speed (I think). It's quite painful though.:zzz:

                                    "You have to be in a situation where you see just how fast things fail to make you take it seriously, I guess. " Bruce Eckel

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                                    • A Andrew Glina

                                      Does MASM32 Assembly count? Structurally it is very similar to C.

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                                      Kuroro Rucilful
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                                      I dunno if it counts but i agree to you that its very similar to C/C++.:zzz:

                                      "You have to be in a situation where you see just how fast things fail to make you take it seriously, I guess. " Bruce Eckel

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                                      • J Jeremy Falcon

                                        All right, we're at 4 now! :laugh::laugh:

                                        Jeremy Falcon

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                                        Gopala
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                                        Some of my friends do it. i can count atleast 3 of them. Including me, it becomes 4 and the total count is 8!!:)

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                                        • L Link2600

                                          Just curious, how many people here still develop apps in Win32 with C/C++? Not WinForm or even MFC, I mean good old fashion WIN32 API with C/C++. Anyone?

                                          ======================================= A goal without a plan remains a dream. =======================================

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                                          tannalein
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                                          Count me in. In fact, count my whole office. We're a bit lost in time, we still work in VS6, mostly C and a bit of VB. Making a GUI in C is a nightmare, but hey, what boss wants, boss gets :sigh: And it's fun, in a masochistic kind of way :mad:

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