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How many people here still develop apps in Win32 with C/C++?

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  • L Link2600

    Just curious, how many people here still develop apps in Win32 with C/C++? Not WinForm or even MFC, I mean good old fashion WIN32 API with C/C++. Anyone?

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    El Corazon
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    Link2006 wrote:

    how many people here still develop apps in Win32 with C/C++?

    Not sure I really count, but yes. Mostly because I rarely need more. As soon as I have established a window, the rest is all OpenGL and my code anyhow. I will occasionally use a routine for more, but very rarely. _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)

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    • L Link2600

      Just curious, how many people here still develop apps in Win32 with C/C++? Not WinForm or even MFC, I mean good old fashion WIN32 API with C/C++. Anyone?

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      cmk
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      For PDA dev i use a mix of Win32 and MFC. For desktop/server i use a framework i developed years ago that wraps Win32. ...cmk Save the whales - collect the whole set

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      • L Link2600

        Just curious, how many people here still develop apps in Win32 with C/C++? Not WinForm or even MFC, I mean good old fashion WIN32 API with C/C++. Anyone?

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        curt powell
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        Absolutely! Low-level code (drivers, services).

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        • L Link2600

          Just curious, how many people here still develop apps in Win32 with C/C++? Not WinForm or even MFC, I mean good old fashion WIN32 API with C/C++. Anyone?

          ======================================= A goal without a plan remains a dream. =======================================

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          Jeremy Falcon
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          I still use a lot of raw Win32 API and C, but I'm also becoming a game programmer using OpenGL and a multimedia library I'm working on. For normal, data-driven apps, I'd probably use something higher level though, but for games, I have the need for speed. :cool: Also, I do like being able to make the occasional app with no dependencies either.

          Jeremy Falcon

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          • C Christian Graus

            For *real* old fashioned, you should have said 'just C'. Either way, looks like you found the only guy. Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog

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            Jeremy Falcon
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            Christian Graus wrote:

            Either way, looks like you found the only guy.

            I'm in the same crowd. That makes three! Woo Hoo. :laugh:

            Jeremy Falcon

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            • L Link2600

              Just curious, how many people here still develop apps in Win32 with C/C++? Not WinForm or even MFC, I mean good old fashion WIN32 API with C/C++. Anyone?

              ======================================= A goal without a plan remains a dream. =======================================

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              jewell
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              I use the correct tool to solve the problem. So yes, if the problem calls for C/C++ and Win32, then that is what I use.

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              • L Link2600

                Just curious, how many people here still develop apps in Win32 with C/C++? Not WinForm or even MFC, I mean good old fashion WIN32 API with C/C++. Anyone?

                ======================================= A goal without a plan remains a dream. =======================================

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                Jason J Neigh
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                Me too. And I know 4 others not reading this.

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                • L Link2600

                  Just curious, how many people here still develop apps in Win32 with C/C++? Not WinForm or even MFC, I mean good old fashion WIN32 API with C/C++. Anyone?

                  ======================================= A goal without a plan remains a dream. =======================================

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                  Christopher Lloyd
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                  It's all I use, even for big apps. But then all my work involves real time image manipulation and for a lot of that I use assembler - so C++ and Win32 feels really high-level to me! Also I like the total lack of dependency. All my apps run on all 32 bit versions of Windows using a single exe (OK, I do use delayload so I can take advantage of new features). Finally, maybe I'm just too old and stuck in my ways. (I started my progamming career writing a GUI for the PC in C, this was a long time ago - before Windows even existed). And somehow I can never find the time to learn all the new libraries - but then it seems to me you finished learning one and 3 new ones come out!

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                  • L Link2600

                    Just curious, how many people here still develop apps in Win32 with C/C++? Not WinForm or even MFC, I mean good old fashion WIN32 API with C/C++. Anyone?

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                    stephen hazel
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                    me too! working on a midi sequencer (song editor) http://shazware.com/ditty/ And a few utility apps and such. That's home programming though. Not at work. But exclusively Win32 API and C++ at home. ...Steve

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                    • L Link2600

                      Just curious, how many people here still develop apps in Win32 with C/C++? Not WinForm or even MFC, I mean good old fashion WIN32 API with C/C++. Anyone?

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                      ajdiaz
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                      Only to write viruses and hacking tools. Win32 C++ is the best!

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                      • L Link2600

                        Just curious, how many people here still develop apps in Win32 with C/C++? Not WinForm or even MFC, I mean good old fashion WIN32 API with C/C++. Anyone?

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                        Todd Smith
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                        Me ... unfortunately.

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                        • L Link2600

                          Just curious, how many people here still develop apps in Win32 with C/C++? Not WinForm or even MFC, I mean good old fashion WIN32 API with C/C++. Anyone?

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                          schaffs
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                          I have but recently graduated to a broader audience and usability found in java servlets! I still can and will if needed. There's alot less need for custom Win32 C apps where I am these days.

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                          • C Christian Graus

                            For *real* old fashioned, you should have said 'just C'. Either way, looks like you found the only guy. Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog

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                            doug4350
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                            Christian Graus wrote:

                            For *real* old fashioned, you should have said 'just C'.

                            ditto... There's a big angry nest of us over here :) ! Aloha, Doug

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                              Just curious, how many people here still develop apps in Win32 with C/C++? Not WinForm or even MFC, I mean good old fashion WIN32 API with C/C++. Anyone?

                              ======================================= A goal without a plan remains a dream. =======================================

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                              AntiSilence
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                              I used to make DOS programs using Borland Turbo C 2.0, then in Borland C++ 3.1 (but I only used C since I didn't know C++) but gave that up about 1995. I switched to Visual Basic (go ahead, laugh!) because I didn't want to waste time coding forms, so VB was good for me because I could design my forms easily, and then concentrate on my program. Now though, I've given VB up, and I'm now doing Visual C# 2005 which is fantastic because it's back to a the C-like syntax that I loved (I prefered it over VB). So now I'm really happy :)

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                              • L Link2600

                                Just curious, how many people here still develop apps in Win32 with C/C++? Not WinForm or even MFC, I mean good old fashion WIN32 API with C/C++. Anyone?

                                ======================================= A goal without a plan remains a dream. =======================================

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                                robasmith
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                                Do you use some fancy tool to build your gui and write all of the database interface code and the communications layer between your clients and servers??? Have you ever written your own memory allocator??? or forgone standard library calls for file access and wrote the code to read the disk sectors yourself??? Have you ever done any serious work using COBOL, RPGII, PASCAL, C ??? If you answered Yes, No, No, No, do you seriously consider yourself to be a programmer!!!???? Perhaps the dev tools of today have replaced the need for behind the scenes, hardcore programming. But is it really programming???

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                                  Just curious, how many people here still develop apps in Win32 with C/C++? Not WinForm or even MFC, I mean good old fashion WIN32 API with C/C++. Anyone?

                                  ======================================= A goal without a plan remains a dream. =======================================

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                                  InOut NET
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                                  Ever heard abount XBase++ (Clipper)? My partner wrote a IDE and framework for it to work in windows ages ago (Win3.1 days). If he try to go to a more modern language, he commits himself to the project, but then fails to deliver and always fall back to developing the software in his XBase framework. He can't program in C++ and XBase is te only thing that he knows and feel comortable with. So, the question is How many people still program in languages designed before the 80's?....

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                                    Do you use some fancy tool to build your gui and write all of the database interface code and the communications layer between your clients and servers??? Have you ever written your own memory allocator??? or forgone standard library calls for file access and wrote the code to read the disk sectors yourself??? Have you ever done any serious work using COBOL, RPGII, PASCAL, C ??? If you answered Yes, No, No, No, do you seriously consider yourself to be a programmer!!!???? Perhaps the dev tools of today have replaced the need for behind the scenes, hardcore programming. But is it really programming???

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                                    InOut NET
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                                    robasmith wrote:

                                    Yes, No, No, No, do you seriously consider yourself to be a programmer!!!????

                                    YES i do. You get tecnical programmers that do the proramming for the behind the scenes, and you get business programmers (if i could call them that) that program to deliver the final product - doing so in a framework developed by the techical coders. The need for prorammers to do last 3 tasks you listed are obsolete. Why waste time redesigning the wheel? Just put on a goodyear tyre and chrome it.

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                                    • J Jeremy Falcon

                                      Christian Graus wrote:

                                      Either way, looks like you found the only guy.

                                      I'm in the same crowd. That makes three! Woo Hoo. :laugh:

                                      Jeremy Falcon

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                                      eldar_2001
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                                      I'm in the same crowd too, so take me into account:)

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                                        I'm in the same crowd too, so take me into account:)

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                                        Jeremy Falcon
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                                        All right, we're at 4 now! :laugh::laugh:

                                        Jeremy Falcon

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                                        • L Link2600

                                          Just curious, how many people here still develop apps in Win32 with C/C++? Not WinForm or even MFC, I mean good old fashion WIN32 API with C/C++. Anyone?

                                          ======================================= A goal without a plan remains a dream. =======================================

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                                          Majesty Of Schizophrenia
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                                          I learnt C/C++ basically and I studied C#. But .NET is nothing against "WIN32 & C". I will develop my every application with C and C++ with MFC than .NET, is it good? :confused:

                                          Majesty Of Schizophrenia Sönmez Kartal

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