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Can Zune kill the iPod? [modified]

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  • C Chris Losinger

    Zune Schmune. that classic "what if MS sold the iPod" short is all you need to know about the Zune. when is Microsoft going to do something that isn't a copy of what Apple released three years before ? i know, why doesn't MS just buy Apple and turn it into their R&D department!

    Let's execute on the customer-facing market-driven swim-lane paradigm!

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    Dustin Metzgar
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    Chris Losinger wrote:

    why doesn't MS just buy Apple and turn it into their R&D department!

    Because that would turn Microsoft into a monopoly... oh wait...


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    • V Varindir Rajesh Mahdihar

      i'm still waiting for the so-called 'crackberry' killer. I think its going on 2-3 years now

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      benjymous
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      You mean a Microsoft Smartphone? (The newest models all support Push email - The new Palm Treo is now MS Smartphone based, if you want something with a thumb keyboard thingy)

      -- Help me! I'm turning into a grapefruit! Buzzwords!

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      • C Chris Maunder

        Can Zune kill the iPod?[^] Whoever is in charge of naming Microsoft products needs to get their 3rd Formal Letter of Warning and then be sacked.

        cheers, Chris Maunder

        CodeProject.com : C++ MVP

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        ToddHileHoffer
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        Actually creative has been kicking Apples ass. Granted Ipod probably sells a lot more the Zen, but the Zen is a better product. My ipod mini 6GB just died after only 16 months (hard disk errors, kept occuring and I could only copy about 512MB worth of songs before it froze). I just purchased the Zen Vision M. I use it primary in my car and it sounds noticably better then the Ipod. Also, the Windows Media Sync feature is easier to use then Itunes. Creative really is making better mp3 players then Apple, but the name of the game is marketing and they might not be winning that war.

        how vital enterprise application are for proactive organizations leveraging collective synergy to think outside the box and formulate their key objectives into a win-win game plan with a quality-driven approach that focuses on empowering key players to drive-up their core competencies and increase expectations with an all-around initiative to drive up the bottom-line. But of course, that's all a "high level" overview of things --thedailywtf 3/21/06

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          Actually creative has been kicking Apples ass. Granted Ipod probably sells a lot more the Zen, but the Zen is a better product. My ipod mini 6GB just died after only 16 months (hard disk errors, kept occuring and I could only copy about 512MB worth of songs before it froze). I just purchased the Zen Vision M. I use it primary in my car and it sounds noticably better then the Ipod. Also, the Windows Media Sync feature is easier to use then Itunes. Creative really is making better mp3 players then Apple, but the name of the game is marketing and they might not be winning that war.

          how vital enterprise application are for proactive organizations leveraging collective synergy to think outside the box and formulate their key objectives into a win-win game plan with a quality-driven approach that focuses on empowering key players to drive-up their core competencies and increase expectations with an all-around initiative to drive up the bottom-line. But of course, that's all a "high level" overview of things --thedailywtf 3/21/06

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          Chris Losinger
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          ToddHileHoffer wrote:

          Actually creative has been kicking Apples ass. Granted Ipod probably sells a lot more the Zen

          hmm, i guess it just depends how you define "kicking ass".

          Let's execute on the customer-facing market-driven swim-lane paradigm!

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          • C Chris Losinger

            ToddHileHoffer wrote:

            Actually creative has been kicking Apples ass. Granted Ipod probably sells a lot more the Zen

            hmm, i guess it just depends how you define "kicking ass".

            Let's execute on the customer-facing market-driven swim-lane paradigm!

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            Gavin Roberts
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            I had the choice to buy an ipod or an Creative Zen. I looked at the ipods, and saw that there were alot of problems such as battery life (2 years+ ago), so I looked further. Although I wasted my money I still saved money on buying the Creative Zen. It had a 40gb hdd, and was very durable. I used it whilst riding to work on my motorbike so it was loader louder then an 100cc arse tearing it down the motorway at 55mph. It also was great for functionality and usability. Try using an ipod with gloves (think biker gloves) on, whilst doing 55mph. I also dropped it a few times at those speeds, and I drove back picked it up and it was still playing, it finally died when I sat on it and pulled the ear phones at the same time which pulled the internal headphone socket off the board. I removed the hdd and use it to this day as a pocket drive. With this, I feel Creative are kicking Apple's ass. Gav

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            • C Chris Losinger

              ToddHileHoffer wrote:

              Actually creative has been kicking Apples ass. Granted Ipod probably sells a lot more the Zen

              hmm, i guess it just depends how you define "kicking ass".

              Let's execute on the customer-facing market-driven swim-lane paradigm!

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              Paul Watson
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              :laugh:

              regards, Paul Watson Ireland FeedHenry needs you

              Shog9 wrote:

              eh, stop bugging me about it, give it a couple of days, see what happens.

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              • C Chris Maunder

                Can Zune kill the iPod?[^] Whoever is in charge of naming Microsoft products needs to get their 3rd Formal Letter of Warning and then be sacked.

                cheers, Chris Maunder

                CodeProject.com : C++ MVP

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                Chris Meech
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                Chris Maunder wrote:

                Can Zune kill the iPod?[^]

                This sounds like a good title for a new song. Kinda like Video Killed The Radio Star. :) Somebody pass me the hair gel, will ya. :)

                Chris Meech I am Canadian. [heard in a local bar] When no one was looking, every single American woman between the ages of 18 and 32 went out and got a tatoo just above their rumpus. [link[^]]

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                • C Chris Maunder

                  Can Zune kill the iPod?[^] Whoever is in charge of naming Microsoft products needs to get their 3rd Formal Letter of Warning and then be sacked.

                  cheers, Chris Maunder

                  CodeProject.com : C++ MVP

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                  Paul Watson
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                  So, what happened to Urge?

                  regards, Paul Watson Ireland FeedHenry needs you

                  Shog9 wrote:

                  eh, stop bugging me about it, give it a couple of days, see what happens.

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                  • P Paul Watson

                    So, what happened to Urge?

                    regards, Paul Watson Ireland FeedHenry needs you

                    Shog9 wrote:

                    eh, stop bugging me about it, give it a couple of days, see what happens.

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                    Chris Meech
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                    It was purged. :)

                    Chris Meech I am Canadian. [heard in a local bar] When no one was looking, every single American woman between the ages of 18 and 32 went out and got a tatoo just above their rumpus. [link[^]]

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                    • P Paul Watson

                      So, what happened to Urge?

                      regards, Paul Watson Ireland FeedHenry needs you

                      Shog9 wrote:

                      eh, stop bugging me about it, give it a couple of days, see what happens.

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                      Ashley van Gerven
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                      Paul Watson wrote:

                      Urge

                      Isn't that Microsoft + MTV's answer to iTunes? I wonder if it will be any good.

                      "Nothing ever changes by staying the same." - David Brent (BBC's The Office)

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                      • C Chris Meech

                        It was purged. :)

                        Chris Meech I am Canadian. [heard in a local bar] When no one was looking, every single American woman between the ages of 18 and 32 went out and got a tatoo just above their rumpus. [link[^]]

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                        Paul Watson
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                        As it was a scurge.

                        regards, Paul Watson Ireland FeedHenry needs you

                        Shog9 wrote:

                        eh, stop bugging me about it, give it a couple of days, see what happens.

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                          Paul Watson wrote:

                          Urge

                          Isn't that Microsoft + MTV's answer to iTunes? I wonder if it will be any good.

                          "Nothing ever changes by staying the same." - David Brent (BBC's The Office)

                          ~ ScrollingGrid: A cross-browser freeze-header control for the ASP.NET DataGrid

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                          Chris Losinger
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                          Microsoft + MTV ? it'll start out as being 'all about the music'. after two years it'll be all game shows about music. in another year, it'll be all game shows and celebrity gossip.

                          Let's execute on the customer-facing market-driven swim-lane paradigm!

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                          • C Chris Maunder

                            Can Zune kill the iPod?[^] Whoever is in charge of naming Microsoft products needs to get their 3rd Formal Letter of Warning and then be sacked.

                            cheers, Chris Maunder

                            CodeProject.com : C++ MVP

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                            Bassam Abdul Baki
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                            Only if they used Mazda's jingle: Zune, Zune, Zune. :-D


                            "People who want to share their religious views with you almost never want you to share yours with them." - Anonymous Web - Blog - RSS - Math - LinkedIn

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                            • C Chris Losinger

                              Zune Schmune. that classic "what if MS sold the iPod" short is all you need to know about the Zune. when is Microsoft going to do something that isn't a copy of what Apple released three years before ? i know, why doesn't MS just buy Apple and turn it into their R&D department!

                              Let's execute on the customer-facing market-driven swim-lane paradigm!

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                              Ed Poore
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                              Chris Losinger wrote:

                              why doesn't MS just buy Apple and turn it into their R&D department!

                              Because there won't be anyone to copy stuff off then


                              Formula 1 - Short for "F1 Racing" - named after the standard "help" key in Windows, it's a sport where participants desperately search through software help files trying to find actual documentation. It's tedious and somewhat cruel, most matches ending in a draw as no participant is able to find anything helpful. - Shog9 Ed

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                              • G Gavin Roberts

                                I had the choice to buy an ipod or an Creative Zen. I looked at the ipods, and saw that there were alot of problems such as battery life (2 years+ ago), so I looked further. Although I wasted my money I still saved money on buying the Creative Zen. It had a 40gb hdd, and was very durable. I used it whilst riding to work on my motorbike so it was loader louder then an 100cc arse tearing it down the motorway at 55mph. It also was great for functionality and usability. Try using an ipod with gloves (think biker gloves) on, whilst doing 55mph. I also dropped it a few times at those speeds, and I drove back picked it up and it was still playing, it finally died when I sat on it and pulled the ear phones at the same time which pulled the internal headphone socket off the board. I removed the hdd and use it to this day as a pocket drive. With this, I feel Creative are kicking Apple's ass. Gav

                                -- modified at 11:46 Monday 24th July, 2006

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                                Ed Poore
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                                Gavin Roberts wrote:

                                I removed the hdd and use it to this day as a pocket drive.

                                So you didn't really lose anything apart from the portability of the music player :cool:, bit more difficult lugging a desktop/laptop around.


                                Formula 1 - Short for "F1 Racing" - named after the standard "help" key in Windows, it's a sport where participants desperately search through software help files trying to find actual documentation. It's tedious and somewhat cruel, most matches ending in a draw as no participant is able to find anything helpful. - Shog9 Ed

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                                • B Bassam Abdul Baki

                                  Only if they used Mazda's jingle: Zune, Zune, Zune. :-D


                                  "People who want to share their religious views with you almost never want you to share yours with them." - Anonymous Web - Blog - RSS - Math - LinkedIn

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                                  Chris Losinger
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                                  :omg: i fncking hate that song. quick, somebody find me a fork, so i can stick it into my eye!

                                  Let's execute on the customer-facing market-driven swim-lane paradigm!

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                                  • C Chris Losinger

                                    :omg: i fncking hate that song. quick, somebody find me a fork, so i can stick it into my eye!

                                    Let's execute on the customer-facing market-driven swim-lane paradigm!

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                                    Bassam Abdul Baki
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                                    Oh come on, it's better than Comcastic. :laugh:


                                    "People who want to share their religious views with you almost never want you to share yours with them." - Anonymous Web - Blog - RSS - Math - LinkedIn

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                                    • C Chris Maunder

                                      Can Zune kill the iPod?[^] Whoever is in charge of naming Microsoft products needs to get their 3rd Formal Letter of Warning and then be sacked.

                                      cheers, Chris Maunder

                                      CodeProject.com : C++ MVP

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                                      Jerry Hammond
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                                      I take it Zune is not a fav of yours?

                                      "The key, the whole key, and nothing but the key, so help me Codd"

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                                      • E Ed Poore

                                        Gavin Roberts wrote:

                                        I removed the hdd and use it to this day as a pocket drive.

                                        So you didn't really lose anything apart from the portability of the music player :cool:, bit more difficult lugging a desktop/laptop around.


                                        Formula 1 - Short for "F1 Racing" - named after the standard "help" key in Windows, it's a sport where participants desperately search through software help files trying to find actual documentation. It's tedious and somewhat cruel, most matches ending in a draw as no participant is able to find anything helpful. - Shog9 Ed

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                                        Gavin Roberts
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                                        Well since it was damaged outside of warranty, I couldn't have it repaired, and since it was pointless having an mp3 player that you couldn't hear anything on it, I suppose I got my use out of it and still have the use of the hard drive. You'd be supprised, i've been bored witless driving to work, so I did infact plug my headphones into a laptop that i took to work and listened to music. Needless to say it didn't last long. Gav

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                                        • C Chris Maunder

                                          Can Zune kill the iPod?[^] Whoever is in charge of naming Microsoft products needs to get their 3rd Formal Letter of Warning and then be sacked.

                                          cheers, Chris Maunder

                                          CodeProject.com : C++ MVP

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                                          ePug
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                                          I am more excited about the commercials Mac will put out. :laugh: - "Hi, I am an iPod" :sigh: - "and I am a Zune" :laugh: - "I play music that can be downloaded from out iTunes store. Don't try copying it to more than 5 machines though, that's a breach of your contract with us. And don't even think to make it a format other than our proprietary ACC format. You may have bought it, but you don't own it. In fact, we own you. But hey, we make you look cool and pompous by giving you the priviledge to rip Microsoft." :wtf: - "And I make a great paper weight or recording your dictations" :cool: - "I am kooky cool and won't your friends be jealous of you carrying me around!"

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