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  • C Colin Angus Mackay

    super wrote:

    Nice catch

    Did you read the articles he quoted? Did you notice that he hadn't read them and was making false claims. Claims which were easily found to be false with in moments of starting to read the aforementioned articles?


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    super
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    Yeah, I read the few lines from the site. I am not saying that BBC is biased towards Islam.I am just saying that wordings in the article may be due to political correctness because anything near anti-islam or neutral rasies the controversy

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    • A Allah On Acid

      super wrote:

      I meant unbiased and not biased news

      Interesting how people on here seem to think that liberal biased news is balaced, but conservative news is very unbalanced.

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      Lost User
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      Today's headline from Fox Hezbollah's 'Cowardly' Use of Civilians This is news for the stupid. Skip the facts and get straight to the conclution. I would rather they present the facts and not their opinion. I dont need to be told if it is cowardly or not. I want to make up my own mind. They should at least put crap like that in the editorial section.

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      • F Farhan Noor Qureshi

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        Seriously though, i think Fox News[^] has the most balanced coverage.

        Fox news is my favorite too. Heck I prefer it even over Comedy central.


        Farhan Noor Qureshi

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        Alvaro Mendez
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        Farhan Noor Qureshi wrote:

        Fox news is my favorite too. Heck I prefer it even over Comedy central.

        "Farhan Qureshi recently stated that he prefers Fox News over Comedy Central. Could this mean that he was once a terrorist-loving hippie? Let's ask our panel of experts. Ann, what do you think?" Alvaro


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        • V Vincent Reynolds

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          in America, liberal means the opposite of the true latin meaning of the word

          It would be more accurate to say that to the American Christian Right, the word "liberal" no longer embodies the true latin meaning of the word.

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          Allah On Acid
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          Vincent Reynolds wrote:

          It would be more accurate to say that to the American Christian Right, the word "liberal" no longer embodies the true latin meaning of the word.

          Liberals pretend to be defending freedom, when really they want more government controls. The Liberals' version of what they call freedom is remarkably similar to communism. Liberals think that freedom means being given what you want (i.e. welfare), when conservatives believe that freedom means making sure everyone can make decisions for themselves.

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          • C Christian Graus

            Perhaps you're just used to a conservative, anti Muslim, pro Christianity and pro Israel press ?

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            Christian Graus wrote:

            Perhaps you're just used to a conservative, anti Muslim, pro Christianity and pro Israel press ?

            Is that a bad thing?

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            • S super

              In this highly polarised world, it seems natural that even news media are biased in some way or other. So my qestion is, which news media(portal/network) do you prefer to get the facts of a particular issue?

              cheers, Super ------------------------------------------ Too much of good is bad,mix some evil in it

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              Bassam Abdul Baki
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              I prefer ABCNNBCBS. Not affiliated with FOX. :)


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              • A Allah On Acid

                Christian Graus wrote:

                Perhaps you're just used to a conservative, anti Muslim, pro Christianity and pro Israel press ?

                Is that a bad thing?

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                Christian Graus
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                That depends - do you want to be informed, or do you want someone to feed your biases, to help justify things you already believe, with no reason grounded in truth to believe it ?

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                • A Alvaro Mendez

                  Farhan Noor Qureshi wrote:

                  Fox news is my favorite too. Heck I prefer it even over Comedy central.

                  "Farhan Qureshi recently stated that he prefers Fox News over Comedy Central. Could this mean that he was once a terrorist-loving hippie? Let's ask our panel of experts. Ann, what do you think?" Alvaro


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                  Farhan Noor Qureshi
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                  Alvaro, you made my day! :-D:-D:-D


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                  • L Lost User

                    Today's headline from Fox Hezbollah's 'Cowardly' Use of Civilians This is news for the stupid. Skip the facts and get straight to the conclution. I would rather they present the facts and not their opinion. I dont need to be told if it is cowardly or not. I want to make up my own mind. They should at least put crap like that in the editorial section.

                    Objects in mirror are closer than they appear

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                    Allah On Acid
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                    Josh Gray wrote:

                    Hezbollah's 'Cowardly' Use of Civilians This is news for the stupid. Skip the facts and get straight to the conclution. I would rather they present the facts and not their opinion. I dont need to be told if it is cowardly or not. I want to make up my own mind. They should at least put crap like that in the editorial section.

                    If you would have actually looked at the article, you would have seen that the article was about someone in the UN calling Hezbollah 'cowardly'.

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                    • L Lost User

                      Today's headline from Fox Hezbollah's 'Cowardly' Use of Civilians This is news for the stupid. Skip the facts and get straight to the conclution. I would rather they present the facts and not their opinion. I dont need to be told if it is cowardly or not. I want to make up my own mind. They should at least put crap like that in the editorial section.

                      Objects in mirror are closer than they appear

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                      Ryan Roberts
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                      Er, that was straight from the UN. Jan Egeland condemned both Israel and Hezbollah's deliberate use of human shields. Other sources may have used a different headline :)

                      Ryan

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                      • R Ryan Roberts

                        Er, that was straight from the UN. Jan Egeland condemned both Israel and Hezbollah's deliberate use of human shields. Other sources may have used a different headline :)

                        Ryan

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                        Ryan Roberts wrote:

                        both Israel and Hezbollah's

                        Exactly

                        Objects in mirror are closer than they appear

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                        • A Allah On Acid

                          Josh Gray wrote:

                          Hezbollah's 'Cowardly' Use of Civilians This is news for the stupid. Skip the facts and get straight to the conclution. I would rather they present the facts and not their opinion. I dont need to be told if it is cowardly or not. I want to make up my own mind. They should at least put crap like that in the editorial section.

                          If you would have actually looked at the article, you would have seen that the article was about someone in the UN calling Hezbollah 'cowardly'.

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                          Lost User
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                          If you read past the first paragraph you would see this During that visit he condemned the killing and wounding of civilians by both sides, and called Israel's offensive "disproportionate" and "a violation of international humanitarian law." :)

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                          • R Rob Graham

                            That pair of choices certainly explains a lot about you.

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                            Stan Shannon
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                            Such as the complexity of his beliefs: "Bush bad, Cheney mean, terrorists misunderstood, Jimmy hungry" :laugh:

                            Thank God for disproportional force.

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                              In this highly polarised world, it seems natural that even news media are biased in some way or other. So my qestion is, which news media(portal/network) do you prefer to get the facts of a particular issue?

                              cheers, Super ------------------------------------------ Too much of good is bad,mix some evil in it

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                              Stan Shannon
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                              http://news.yahoo.com/[^] If I watch any news it will be Fox, or PBS. I listen to some talk radio, but I'm as likely to listen to Ed Shultz as Limbaugh.

                              Thank God for disproportional force.

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                              • A Allah On Acid

                                Vincent Reynolds wrote:

                                It would be more accurate to say that to the American Christian Right, the word "liberal" no longer embodies the true latin meaning of the word.

                                Liberals pretend to be defending freedom, when really they want more government controls. The Liberals' version of what they call freedom is remarkably similar to communism. Liberals think that freedom means being given what you want (i.e. welfare), when conservatives believe that freedom means making sure everyone can make decisions for themselves.

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                                Liberals pretend to be defending freedom, when really they want more government controls. The Liberals' version of what they call freedom is remarkably similar to communism. Liberals think that freedom means being given what you want (i.e. welfare), when conservatives believe that freedom means making sure everyone can make decisions for themselves.

                                As a member of the American Christian right, of course those are your beliefs, and that is your definition. I prefer to use the word "right", as it is hardly conservative to spend vast amounts of borrowed money in order to finance grand experiments in building democracies overseas by force. As for the content of your definition, I refer you to my recent discussions in this forum regarding personal liberty and sovereignty of the individual, and will only state here that I respectfully, but very strongly, disagree with you and the religious right regarding the definition of liberal.

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                                • A Allah On Acid

                                  Vincent Reynolds wrote:

                                  It would be more accurate to say that to the American Christian Right, the word "liberal" no longer embodies the true latin meaning of the word.

                                  Liberals pretend to be defending freedom, when really they want more government controls. The Liberals' version of what they call freedom is remarkably similar to communism. Liberals think that freedom means being given what you want (i.e. welfare), when conservatives believe that freedom means making sure everyone can make decisions for themselves.

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                                  Colin Angus Mackay
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                                  There you go again bastardising the word liberal. A liberal is someone who values freedom. Someone who believes the people should be allowed to make their own choices. Someone who believes that society should ensure that people have the freedom to make their own choices. It does not mean they believe people should get government handouts because they can't be bothered to work. More most people long term lack of employment is a lifestyle choice and people should live with the consequences of that choice. Welfare exists to give people a helping hand on a temporary basis. A few years ago I spent three months unemployed. Personally, I can't see how anyone can survive on what the "jobseekers allowance" was. In the month prior to becoming unemployed I paid more tax than I received back from the government in the following 3 months. But, I had savings and I was able to pay my bills.


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                                  • A Allah On Acid

                                    Colin Angus Mackay wrote:

                                    BBC News[^]

                                    BBC news has seemed to have a very liberal pro-Muslim, anti-Christianity, and anti-Israel bias behind it the times i have looked at it.

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                                    BBC news has seemed to have a very liberal pro-Muslim, anti-Christianity, and anti-Israel bias behind it the times i have looked at it.

                                    Uh, not that i've noticed. And i've been listening to the World Service for years.

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                                    • C Christian Graus

                                      Precisely because there is no such thing as an unbiased media, I try to read a variety of sources if I care enough to try to find out about something. I may also read blogs, but I don't make the mistake of presuming that someone who is in the thick of things actually understands what's going on, beyond how it affects them personally. Mostly, I accept that there is no real way to know what's going on in the world beyond some broad brush strokes.

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                                      Mike Gaskey
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                                      Christian Graus wrote:

                                      Precisely because there is no such thing as an unbiased media,

                                      the sanest comment i've seen in a while.

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                                      • S Stan Shannon

                                        http://news.yahoo.com/[^] If I watch any news it will be Fox, or PBS. I listen to some talk radio, but I'm as likely to listen to Ed Shultz as Limbaugh.

                                        Thank God for disproportional force.

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                                        Jorgen Sigvardsson
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                                        Stan Shannon wrote:

                                        PBS

                                        :gasp: That's the commie channel damnit!!!

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                                        • A Allah On Acid

                                          Vincent Reynolds wrote:

                                          It would be more accurate to say that to the American Christian Right, the word "liberal" no longer embodies the true latin meaning of the word.

                                          Liberals pretend to be defending freedom, when really they want more government controls. The Liberals' version of what they call freedom is remarkably similar to communism. Liberals think that freedom means being given what you want (i.e. welfare), when conservatives believe that freedom means making sure everyone can make decisions for themselves.

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                                          Liberals pretend to be defending freedom, when really they want more government controls.

                                          Why would Liberals want more government control when they are not in government? Wouldnt that just be handing power to the concervatives currently in government?

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