Skip to content
  • Categories
  • Recent
  • Tags
  • Popular
  • World
  • Users
  • Groups
Skins
  • Light
  • Cerulean
  • Cosmo
  • Flatly
  • Journal
  • Litera
  • Lumen
  • Lux
  • Materia
  • Minty
  • Morph
  • Pulse
  • Sandstone
  • Simplex
  • Sketchy
  • Spacelab
  • United
  • Yeti
  • Zephyr
  • Dark
  • Cyborg
  • Darkly
  • Quartz
  • Slate
  • Solar
  • Superhero
  • Vapor

  • Default (No Skin)
  • No Skin
Collapse
Code Project
  1. Home
  2. The Lounge
  3. Artificial Intelligence

Artificial Intelligence

Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved The Lounge
question
39 Posts 18 Posters 0 Views 1 Watching
  • Oldest to Newest
  • Newest to Oldest
  • Most Votes
Reply
  • Reply as topic
Log in to reply
This topic has been deleted. Only users with topic management privileges can see it.
  • I Ingo

    Hmmm. I have to shut up, otherwised I will be banned from CP forever, but a Depeche Mode song comes up my mind. :-D I'm so spoiled! Behave myself! :rolleyes:

    ------------------------------ PROST Roleplaying Game War doesn't determine who's right. War determines who's left.

    D Offline
    D Offline
    Dan Neely
    wrote on last edited by
    #30

    ihoecken wrote:

    Hmmm. I have to shut up, otherwised I will be banned from CP forever, but a Depeche Mode song comes up my mind.

    Have you heard the kinda freaky Rammstien cover of it?

    I 1 Reply Last reply
    0
    • M MatthysDT

      Question - Does an IF statement constitute artificial intelligence? This is due to be heavily debated at my university, thought some external views would be nice.

      you can't forget something you never knew...

      K Offline
      K Offline
      Kri5
      wrote on last edited by
      #31

      First you have to lay down the definition of 'intelligence'. Lots of people have mistaken ideas of how to define intelligence. If it's defined as problem-solving, or the ability to memorize (which are wrong definitions anyway), then most programs, even a simple calculator would be classified as intelligent. Most people even find it hard to distinguish between learning and intelligence. My own definition of intelligence (after having pondered on it as part of my studies too, involving lots of discussions, heated debates and programming AI....oh my miss those good ol' days... :) ) is the ability to learn with the minimal resources. And how would i define learning? It's the ability to generalise, form concepts, abstractions, from what you see around you. For e.g. you learn what car is by simply looking at two or three cars, and then form the generalisation that cars have wheels, windows, an engine, etc. Clearly all this leads to the conclusion that an 'IF' statement is not AI. Rather, it is a logic instruction that an AI process needs to use, such as in the car example: IF it has wheels/engine/windows/etc, THEN it's a car. (I hope i didn't do the assignment for you ;P )

      _________________________ Kri5

      M 1 Reply Last reply
      0
      • M MatthysDT

        Question - Does an IF statement constitute artificial intelligence? This is due to be heavily debated at my university, thought some external views would be nice.

        you can't forget something you never knew...

        E Offline
        E Offline
        Ennis Ray Lynch Jr
        wrote on last edited by
        #32

        Are artificially intelligent! If you provide the if statement with a significantly robust training set does it change the value of the statement for given inputs to match experience? Does the experience learned corrollate when provided with a data set that was not used in training?

        A man said to the universe: "Sir I exist!" "However," replied the Universe, "The fact has not created in me A sense of obligation." -- Stephen Crane

        1 Reply Last reply
        0
        • K Kri5

          First you have to lay down the definition of 'intelligence'. Lots of people have mistaken ideas of how to define intelligence. If it's defined as problem-solving, or the ability to memorize (which are wrong definitions anyway), then most programs, even a simple calculator would be classified as intelligent. Most people even find it hard to distinguish between learning and intelligence. My own definition of intelligence (after having pondered on it as part of my studies too, involving lots of discussions, heated debates and programming AI....oh my miss those good ol' days... :) ) is the ability to learn with the minimal resources. And how would i define learning? It's the ability to generalise, form concepts, abstractions, from what you see around you. For e.g. you learn what car is by simply looking at two or three cars, and then form the generalisation that cars have wheels, windows, an engine, etc. Clearly all this leads to the conclusion that an 'IF' statement is not AI. Rather, it is a logic instruction that an AI process needs to use, such as in the car example: IF it has wheels/engine/windows/etc, THEN it's a car. (I hope i didn't do the assignment for you ;P )

          _________________________ Kri5

          M Offline
          M Offline
          MatthysDT
          wrote on last edited by
          #33

          Hi, thank you for your views. You didn't do my assignment (it's not an assignment per say) but I hope you dont mind if I citate one or two of your statements. I'm taking AI for the first time this semester and it must be one of my most fascinating subject so far. (Still :zzz: in class though :laugh:, no class ever keeps me interested past the first hour)

          you can't forget something you never knew...

          K 1 Reply Last reply
          0
          • D Dan Neely

            ihoecken wrote:

            Hmmm. I have to shut up, otherwised I will be banned from CP forever, but a Depeche Mode song comes up my mind.

            Have you heard the kinda freaky Rammstien cover of it?

            I Offline
            I Offline
            Ingo
            wrote on last edited by
            #34

            dan neely wrote:

            Have you heard the kinda freaky Rammstien cover of it?

            Yes, I still favor Depeche Mode's version, but it's pretty cool for a cover version. It has it's own style. :)

            ------------------------------ PROST Roleplaying Game War doesn't determine who's right. War determines who's left.

            1 Reply Last reply
            0
            • M MatthysDT

              Question - Does an IF statement constitute artificial intelligence? This is due to be heavily debated at my university, thought some external views would be nice.

              you can't forget something you never knew...

              E Offline
              E Offline
              El Corazon
              wrote on last edited by
              #35

              evilnoodle wrote:

              Question - Does an IF statement constitute artificial intelligence?

              The world is not black and white... when the computer can look at an "if" statement and decide that neither answer is "completely true" then it will have AI. An if statement is a double bind, a rigid construct with no escape... it is a cage. When the computer can decide that the conditional no longer applies and that a new decision has to be made, then that is AI.

              _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)

              1 Reply Last reply
              0
              • M MatthysDT

                According to Turing, If a interrogator were to ask identical questions to a human and a "computer" without knowing which one provided which answer and cannot distinguish by the answers which is is the human's and which is the computers, that computer or software qualifies as AI. Can we assume that the human would think rationally? If so, I can't see why IF statements cant be structured (with the right variables or environmental variables) as qualified AI.

                you can't forget something you never knew...

                C Offline
                C Offline
                Chris S Kaiser
                wrote on last edited by
                #36

                Turing's test is for strong AI, there is also weak AI such as we find in games. But, no, if is a logical switch in paths of choice. So it would utilized as a mechanism by AI but isn't on its own.

                This statement is false.

                1 Reply Last reply
                0
                • M MatthysDT

                  Question - Does an IF statement constitute artificial intelligence? This is due to be heavily debated at my university, thought some external views would be nice.

                  you can't forget something you never knew...

                  J Offline
                  J Offline
                  Jason McBurney
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #37

                  evilnoodle wrote:

                  Does an IF statement constitute artificial intelligence?

                  If we are marketing the product then yes. However, if you can ask the system why it choose the case, it choose then I would argue it quasi - intelligent, maybe in the goldfish or slug catagory :P

                  do you need to investigate an online backup[^] company

                  1 Reply Last reply
                  0
                  • M MatthysDT

                    Hi, thank you for your views. You didn't do my assignment (it's not an assignment per say) but I hope you dont mind if I citate one or two of your statements. I'm taking AI for the first time this semester and it must be one of my most fascinating subject so far. (Still :zzz: in class though :laugh:, no class ever keeps me interested past the first hour)

                    you can't forget something you never knew...

                    K Offline
                    K Offline
                    Kri5
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #38

                    You can use any statements you wish....i don't hold any copyright over what i said; however if one day you get your degree and make millions, remember that i like Ferraris :) I love AI myself, i guess you'll end up addicted :)

                    _________________________ Kri5

                    M 1 Reply Last reply
                    0
                    • K Kri5

                      You can use any statements you wish....i don't hold any copyright over what i said; however if one day you get your degree and make millions, remember that i like Ferraris :) I love AI myself, i guess you'll end up addicted :)

                      _________________________ Kri5

                      M Offline
                      M Offline
                      MatthysDT
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #39

                      Ferrari, got it!

                      you can't forget something you never knew...

                      1 Reply Last reply
                      0
                      Reply
                      • Reply as topic
                      Log in to reply
                      • Oldest to Newest
                      • Newest to Oldest
                      • Most Votes


                      • Login

                      • Don't have an account? Register

                      • Login or register to search.
                      • First post
                        Last post
                      0
                      • Categories
                      • Recent
                      • Tags
                      • Popular
                      • World
                      • Users
                      • Groups