Translating recruiters
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A recruiting company sent me an email this morning about a programming job, specifying that the position required "API Development experience in .NET". Before deleting it, my curiosity was piqued. Since I don't have my Recruiter to English guide handy, I thought I'd ask the experts here how they would interpret such a phrase. At first I thought they were talking about accessing the Windows SDK via .NET (bad unmanaged programer - bad, BAD, unmanaged programmer!), then I thought no, they want someone who can sling C# / VB.NET code using the framework, after which I discarded both ideas in favor of them wanting me to write an API to something using .NET. Anyone want to take a swing at translating this? :-D
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I'd say that it's fairly straightforward - they need someone to write APIs! Seriously though, having done a fair bit of this myself, what they're looking for imho is someone who understands that how a developer codes a component is not necessarilly the best way if that component is to be used by a third party. The idea of "designing" an API is simply making sure that the interfaces to the component are simple and straighforward (and where possible, self-documenting)as possible. It can be a bit of a minefield - particularly if the component is fairly complex I tend to think of it in a similar way to UI design - how can I improve this api, so that what I need is simple to find and understand, that the same paradigm is used for the same type of task etc..etc.... Sounds kinda fun to me - what's the salary hehe?
"Now I guess I'll sit back and watch people misinterpret what I just said......" Christian Graus At The Soapbox
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Michael Martin wrote:
as your an ageing musician (probably doped out of his mind) API stands for Application Programming Interface).
:omg: Oh. I thought it stood for A Party Invitation.
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Christopher Duncan wrote:
Oh. I thought it stood for A Party Invitation.
It does here in Australia, I'm pretty sure it doesn't in the US.
Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash 24/04/2004
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Ravi Bhavnani wrote:
...(or better yet, "keyboarding")? :)
Is this similar to bodyboarding or wakeboarding?
Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash 24/04/2004
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Maybe they are looking for someone to write DLL's which are to be sold or used by someone else. Thus experience in developing an API would be useful. That's my take, at least.
Chris Meech I am Canadian. [heard in a local bar]
Chris Meech wrote:
Maybe they are looking for someone to write DLL's which are to be sold or used by someone else.
That's what I suspect it means, too.
:josh: My WPF Blog[^]
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Maybe they are looking for someone to write DLL's which are to be sold or used by someone else. Thus experience in developing an API would be useful. That's my take, at least.
Chris Meech I am Canadian. [heard in a local bar]
I agree. API's usually mean .dlls to allow other developers to customize your product.
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Christopher Duncan wrote:
Oh. I thought it stood for A Party Invitation.
It does here in Australia, I'm pretty sure it doesn't in the US.
Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash 24/04/2004
Michael Martin wrote:
It does here in Australia, I'm pretty sure it doesn't in the US.
Dang. Clearly, it's time to get a passport.
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Michael Martin wrote:
It does here in Australia, I'm pretty sure it doesn't in the US.
Dang. Clearly, it's time to get a passport.
Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes www.PracticalStrategyConsulting.com
Come on down, just leave your chihuaha (or however it's spelt) at home. Rat sized dogs and me don't get along.
Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash 24/04/2004
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Come on down, just leave your chihuaha (or however it's spelt) at home. Rat sized dogs and me don't get along.
Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash 24/04/2004
Michael Martin wrote:
Rat sized dogs and me don't get along.
Not big enough for a BBQ? ;P
Formula 1 - Short for "F1 Racing" - named after the standard "help" key in Windows, it's a sport where participants desperately search through software help files trying to find actual documentation. It's tedious and somewhat cruel, most matches ending in a draw as no participant is able to find anything helpful. - Shog9 Ed
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Maybe they are looking for someone to write DLL's which are to be sold or used by someone else. Thus experience in developing an API would be useful. That's my take, at least.
Chris Meech I am Canadian. [heard in a local bar]
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A recruiting company sent me an email this morning about a programming job, specifying that the position required "API Development experience in .NET". Before deleting it, my curiosity was piqued. Since I don't have my Recruiter to English guide handy, I thought I'd ask the experts here how they would interpret such a phrase. At first I thought they were talking about accessing the Windows SDK via .NET (bad unmanaged programer - bad, BAD, unmanaged programmer!), then I thought no, they want someone who can sling C# / VB.NET code using the framework, after which I discarded both ideas in favor of them wanting me to write an API to something using .NET. Anyone want to take a swing at translating this? :-D
Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes www.PracticalStrategyConsulting.com
"API development experience in .NET" refers to the ability to create an API in .NET that will be consumed by a third-party
Tom Archer (blog) Program Manager - Windows SDK Headers, Libraries & Tools MICROSOFT
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"API development experience in .NET" refers to the ability to create an API in .NET that will be consumed by a third-party
Tom Archer (blog) Program Manager - Windows SDK Headers, Libraries & Tools MICROSOFT
Yeah, that's the reality of the matter, but is it indeed an accurate translation from Recruiter to English? :-D
Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes www.PracticalStrategyConsulting.com
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Michael Martin wrote:
Rat sized dogs and me don't get along.
Not big enough for a BBQ? ;P
Formula 1 - Short for "F1 Racing" - named after the standard "help" key in Windows, it's a sport where participants desperately search through software help files trying to find actual documentation. It's tedious and somewhat cruel, most matches ending in a draw as no participant is able to find anything helpful. - Shog9 Ed
Ed.Poore wrote:
Not big enough for a BBQ?
Yeah, but probably big enough for bait. I hear the fish are really large out there. :-D
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Michael Martin wrote:
Rat sized dogs and me don't get along.
Not big enough for a BBQ? ;P
Formula 1 - Short for "F1 Racing" - named after the standard "help" key in Windows, it's a sport where participants desperately search through software help files trying to find actual documentation. It's tedious and somewhat cruel, most matches ending in a draw as no participant is able to find anything helpful. - Shog9 Ed
Ed.Poore wrote:
Not big enough for a BBQ?
You're a sick puppy X| (pun intended) Graham
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Yeah, that's the reality of the matter, but is it indeed an accurate translation from Recruiter to English? :-D
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You will call the recruiter and get back to us, right? :)
Charlie Gilley Will program for food... Whoever said children were cheaper by the dozen... lied. My son's PDA is an M249 SAW.
Already hit the delete button... :-D
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Ed.Poore wrote:
Not big enough for a BBQ?
You're a sick puppy X| (pun intended) Graham
At least I didn't call them the usual name of "Rat on Wheels", don't ask me why we call them that, we've just always done so. Besides a dog serves a purpose (based on that assumption then a Chihuaha is a cat :suss:), the only thing Rats on Wheels could do is be eaten but they're even too small for that.
As of how to accomplish this I wouldn't have a clue at the moment and I'm too lazy to google it
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A recruiting company sent me an email this morning about a programming job, specifying that the position required "API Development experience in .NET". Before deleting it, my curiosity was piqued. Since I don't have my Recruiter to English guide handy, I thought I'd ask the experts here how they would interpret such a phrase. At first I thought they were talking about accessing the Windows SDK via .NET (bad unmanaged programer - bad, BAD, unmanaged programmer!), then I thought no, they want someone who can sling C# / VB.NET code using the framework, after which I discarded both ideas in favor of them wanting me to write an API to something using .NET. Anyone want to take a swing at translating this? :-D
Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes www.PracticalStrategyConsulting.com
They mean accessing the Windows SDK via .NET
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A recruiting company sent me an email this morning about a programming job, specifying that the position required "API Development experience in .NET". Before deleting it, my curiosity was piqued. Since I don't have my Recruiter to English guide handy, I thought I'd ask the experts here how they would interpret such a phrase. At first I thought they were talking about accessing the Windows SDK via .NET (bad unmanaged programer - bad, BAD, unmanaged programmer!), then I thought no, they want someone who can sling C# / VB.NET code using the framework, after which I discarded both ideas in favor of them wanting me to write an API to something using .NET. Anyone want to take a swing at translating this? :-D
Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes www.PracticalStrategyConsulting.com
I have to stand up for my profession here and tell you all that it isn't the recrutier that comes up with these non-sensical requirements. I am a technical recruiter (I know, a traiter in our midst!) and I have asked people if they have "API Development experience" and I have no clue what that indicates either. It is something that comes out from the hiring company, usually written by the hiring manager. I interpret it as working with .Net to develop a tool that requires an API to be written to accompany it but all of you are more technical than I and if anyone can give me a better interpretation all the better. Go easy on us recruiters. We're just trying to get you jobs! Kevin Johnstone
Looking for a job in Ottawa? Contact me at kjohnstoneATprocom.ca
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I have to stand up for my profession here and tell you all that it isn't the recrutier that comes up with these non-sensical requirements. I am a technical recruiter (I know, a traiter in our midst!) and I have asked people if they have "API Development experience" and I have no clue what that indicates either. It is something that comes out from the hiring company, usually written by the hiring manager. I interpret it as working with .Net to develop a tool that requires an API to be written to accompany it but all of you are more technical than I and if anyone can give me a better interpretation all the better. Go easy on us recruiters. We're just trying to get you jobs! Kevin Johnstone
Looking for a job in Ottawa? Contact me at kjohnstoneATprocom.ca
Kevin Johnstone wrote:
I know, a traiter in our midst
Why would you say such a thing? In my opinion, recruiters are the good guys! :-D Like any profession, however, some work harder than others to understand and meet the needs of their clientele. I'm sure you've met both.
Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes www.PracticalStrategyConsulting.com
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Kevin Johnstone wrote:
I know, a traiter in our midst
Why would you say such a thing? In my opinion, recruiters are the good guys! :-D Like any profession, however, some work harder than others to understand and meet the needs of their clientele. I'm sure you've met both.
Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes www.PracticalStrategyConsulting.com
Very true. You always need to make sure you are looking out for your best interests. Remember, recruiters are commissioned employees and that can attract some bad apples. I only meant that I'm a traiter in that I'm not a programmer. Just a tech nerd!:cool: