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  • J Jorgen Sigvardsson

    What? You don't like cherries? :rolleyes:

    -- No humans were probed in the making of this episode

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    The kind he was saying means he has dirtyness in his mind.

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      Trollslayer wrote:

      Be careful about static, it can ruin a PC builders day.

      I know this is true. I've heard it repeated a million times. I've been messing around inside PC's for ~18 years now and I have to admit that I don't really take very careful precautions, yet I've never had anything pop on me. Trust me, I've spent a LOT of time inside PC's. The biggest precaution I take is that, when possible I leave the PC plugged in while I mess with it so that the chasis is grounded. This isn't always possible though and still I've never destroyed anything due to ESD. The last prebuilt desktop PC I owned I purchased in 1996, and even that was customized pretty quickly. I've built them for friends, for work, continuous upgrades at home... never any problems. Hell, half the time I lay the things down on carpet to work on it. Has anyone here had lots of ESD trouble?

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      David Kentley wrote:

      The biggest precaution I take is that, when possible I leave the PC plugged in while I mess with it so that the chasis is grounded.

      With ATX power supplies you have to make sure you've got the switch on the power supply flipped off if you have it plugged in. Otherwise, there is power to the mainboard and possibly some other components as well.

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        ESD!! Be careful about static, it can ruin a PC builders day. Elaine :rose:

        The tigress is here :-D

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        Back in the day, I once added a CP/M 80-column card to an Apple IIe - while the computer was powered on. I got lucky and nothing bad happened. More on-topic: I've been messing around wit computer innards since 1979, and I've never destroyed anything as a result of static electricity, and that even includes the days when you added memory one chip at a time. -- modified at 12:59 Wednesday 2nd August, 2006

        "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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          The kind he was saying means he has dirtyness in his mind.

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          Jorgen Sigvardsson
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          I don't think he was referring to virgin women. It's just an expression, which means different things in different contexts. :)

          -- Based on a True Story

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            All it takes is for you to touch the case before doing anything and that leaves you pretty well covered. Some people with dry skin for example have lots of problems so there is luck invovled. Elaine :rose:

            The tigress is here :-D

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            Yup, that's what I do, along with not pushing my luck (I handle all cards by their non-conductive edges).

            "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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            "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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            • E Ennis Ray Lynch Jr

              Ok, I will admit it, I applied a budget constraint and only spent a thousand dollars but I have ordered my new PC. I will assembly it when it arrives. I am so excited! To be honest I have never built a PC from scratch for my own personal use :( I am so looking forward to popping this cherry. The specs are lame but I will share them anyway: Processor: Intel P940 RAM: 2GB Paired 667 Video: 7600 GT HDD: 2 WD 160GB 7k with 16meg buffer to be RAID 0 PS: 550 Antec (prolly overkill but I may replace the video card) With any luck it may actually be able to run windows vista when it is released. (BTW, I got all my software dirt cheap and legally!)

              A man said to the universe: "Sir I exist!" "However," replied the Universe, "The fact has not created in me A sense of obligation." -- Stephen Crane

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              Ennis Ray Lynch, Jr. wrote:

              With any luck it may actually be able to run windows vista when it is released. (BTW, I got all my software dirt cheap and legally!)

              According to all the rumors, the components you've listed are sufficient. I have two power supplies in my system - one (450 watt) for components that have rotating assemblies, and a 500 watt for the motherboard and video card. If you get a big enough case, you can do that too if you're worried about power.

              "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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              "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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              • realJSOPR realJSOP

                Back in the day, I once added a CP/M 80-column card to an Apple IIe - while the computer was powered on. I got lucky and nothing bad happened. More on-topic: I've been messing around wit computer innards since 1979, and I've never destroyed anything as a result of static electricity, and that even includes the days when you added memory one chip at a time. -- modified at 12:59 Wednesday 2nd August, 2006

                "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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                "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                80 Column card. Is that ancient for graphics card? :-D

                -- 80 percent entertainment by volume

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                  Ennis Ray Lynch, Jr. wrote:

                  With any luck it may actually be able to run windows vista when it is released. (BTW, I got all my software dirt cheap and legally!)

                  According to all the rumors, the components you've listed are sufficient. I have two power supplies in my system - one (450 watt) for components that have rotating assemblies, and a 500 watt for the motherboard and video card. If you get a big enough case, you can do that too if you're worried about power.

                  "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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                  "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                  :omg: almost a kilowatt!? Does your light flicker when you turn it on? :) What kind of monster do you have?

                  -- Nominated For Three Glemmys

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                  • J Jorgen Sigvardsson

                    80 Column card. Is that ancient for graphics card? :-D

                    -- 80 percent entertainment by volume

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                    Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote:

                    80 Column card. Is that ancient for graphics card?

                    It is if by 'graphics' you mean 'smaller letters'. :)

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                      Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote:

                      80 Column card. Is that ancient for graphics card?

                      It is if by 'graphics' you mean 'smaller letters'. :)

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                      Jorgen Sigvardsson
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                      Well if you can make pictures of voluptuous women[^] with it, I consider it to be graphics. ;) -- No humans were probed in the making of this episode

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                      • C Christopher Duncan

                        Judah Himango wrote:

                        IIRC, most machines made within the last few years will be able to run Vista.

                        I think he meant at speeds that exceed the performance of a 2400 buad modem. :)

                        Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes www.PracticalStrategyConsulting.com

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                        lol...well, I'll grant you that if you're trying to run it will all the bells and whistles turned on. :)

                        Tech, life, family, faith: Give me a visit. I'm currently blogging about: Messianic Instrumentals (with audio) The apostle Paul, modernly speaking: Epistles of Paul Judah Himango

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                        • realJSOPR realJSOP

                          Back in the day, I once added a CP/M 80-column card to an Apple IIe - while the computer was powered on. I got lucky and nothing bad happened. More on-topic: I've been messing around wit computer innards since 1979, and I've never destroyed anything as a result of static electricity, and that even includes the days when you added memory one chip at a time. -- modified at 12:59 Wednesday 2nd August, 2006

                          "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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                          "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                          Yeah I agree, I've been messing with chips and computers as a hobby since at least as long as you and professionally for many years and I've never seen a card or component fried by static. I think it was probably a bigger worry back in the 8080 days than it is now. In various computer service shops I've seen many memory chips and components that are taken for spare parts heaped in boxes without esd bags and never seen a bad one as a result either. We even used to take hard drives that had died and threw them in a freezer for a few hours to recover data off of them.

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                          • E Ennis Ray Lynch Jr

                            Ok, I will admit it, I applied a budget constraint and only spent a thousand dollars but I have ordered my new PC. I will assembly it when it arrives. I am so excited! To be honest I have never built a PC from scratch for my own personal use :( I am so looking forward to popping this cherry. The specs are lame but I will share them anyway: Processor: Intel P940 RAM: 2GB Paired 667 Video: 7600 GT HDD: 2 WD 160GB 7k with 16meg buffer to be RAID 0 PS: 550 Antec (prolly overkill but I may replace the video card) With any luck it may actually be able to run windows vista when it is released. (BTW, I got all my software dirt cheap and legally!)

                            A man said to the universe: "Sir I exist!" "However," replied the Universe, "The fact has not created in me A sense of obligation." -- Stephen Crane

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                            How did you get your software for cheap? Students of some universities can get microsoft software for free through the msdnaa Building a computer is a lot of fun though! Good luck!!!

                            -K

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                              80 Column card. Is that ancient for graphics card? :-D

                              -- 80 percent entertainment by volume

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                              No, that gave the Apple IIe (and below) an 80-column text display (up from 40 columns).

                              "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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                              "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                                How did you get your software for cheap? Students of some universities can get microsoft software for free through the msdnaa Building a computer is a lot of fun though! Good luck!!!

                                -K

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                                Ennis Ray Lynch Jr
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                                He has been hooking us up through their employee buy program. He is allowed to share with friends so ...

                                A man said to the universe: "Sir I exist!" "However," replied the Universe, "The fact has not created in me A sense of obligation." -- Stephen Crane

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                                • J Jorgen Sigvardsson

                                  :omg: almost a kilowatt!? Does your light flicker when you turn it on? :) What kind of monster do you have?

                                  -- Nominated For Three Glemmys

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                                  I also used to do water cooling and overclocking, but I came to my senses and scrapped all that. The power supply that powers my (5) hard drives also powered two water pumps, and a four additional 120mm more fans. One last thing, just because they CAN draw that much power, doesn't necessarily mean they do... :)

                                  "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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                                  "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                                    The kind he was saying means he has dirtyness in his mind.

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                                    Ennis Ray Lynch Jr
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                                    "Popping the cherry" is an expression used to indicate doing something for the first time. Although it is not necessarily polite it is also not usually vulgar. Although, I suppose using the phrase in the context of a dead baby joke would catupult it to beyond offensive and nearly obscene.

                                    A man said to the universe: "Sir I exist!" "However," replied the Universe, "The fact has not created in me A sense of obligation." -- Stephen Crane

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                                      I also used to do water cooling and overclocking, but I came to my senses and scrapped all that. The power supply that powers my (5) hard drives also powered two water pumps, and a four additional 120mm more fans. One last thing, just because they CAN draw that much power, doesn't necessarily mean they do... :)

                                      "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
                                      -----
                                      "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                                      Ennis Ray Lynch Jr
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                                      I would rather have more than I need than less. My current HP box which will shortly be converted to a linux box does not have enough juice to even add another HDD! It is pathetic.

                                      A man said to the universe: "Sir I exist!" "However," replied the Universe, "The fact has not created in me A sense of obligation." -- Stephen Crane

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                                        No, that gave the Apple IIe (and below) an 80-column text display (up from 40 columns).

                                        "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
                                        -----
                                        "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                                        80 columns meant higher resolution ascii porn (I've seen old school computer porn). I count that as graphics. ;)

                                        -- Presented in BC [Brain Control] where available

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                                        • realJSOPR realJSOP

                                          I also used to do water cooling and overclocking, but I came to my senses and scrapped all that. The power supply that powers my (5) hard drives also powered two water pumps, and a four additional 120mm more fans. One last thing, just because they CAN draw that much power, doesn't necessarily mean they do... :)

                                          "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
                                          -----
                                          "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                                          John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                                          I also used to do water cooling and overclocking, but I came to my senses and scrapped all that. The power supply that powers my (5) hard drives also powered two water pumps

                                          You scrapped overclocking? Or is your computer a part of some exotic fountain project? :-D

                                          John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                                          One last thing, just because they CAN draw that much power, doesn't necessarily mean they do...

                                          I suppose your computer qualifies as an american muscle computer? ;)

                                          -- Not a substitute for human interaction

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