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  • R Rob Graham

    Hezbola rockets are only enforcing Islamist terrorism, killing Israeli civilians... It cuts both ways, and Hezbola is hiding its rockets among the lebanese civilians, providing a magnet for the Israeli bombs.

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    But how does that change that Israel is killing innocent lebanese?

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      But how does that change that Israel is killing innocent lebanese?

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      It can be one of two scenarios: 1. The civilians are being held hostage by the Lebanese near their rockets so that when bombed, they will die and Israel will look bad in the court of public opinions. Lebanon would therefore be guilty of their deaths. 2. They intentionally stayed there in the hopes to be martyred (by making Israel look bad). In that case the civilians would be complicit and therefore be guilty. There is simply no excuse to hang around rockets while they're launching and being bombed unless you're partaking in the battle.


      "I curse economic prosperity as it puts an end to much-needed poverty, famine and pestilence." -dennisd45

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        Suicide bombers are cowardly. Fighting like men and knowing when to give up for the sake of your women and children is brave.


        "I curse economic prosperity as it puts an end to much-needed poverty, famine and pestilence." -dennisd45

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        It is not brave to die for your people and your God?

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          It is not brave to die for your people and your God?

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          Rob Graham
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          Ahmad Al-Majiid wrote:

          It is not brave to die for your people and your God?

          No, its just plain stupid.

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            jith - iii wrote:

            I clearly know your opinion,but world is not as like you people think.Majority of the people want people.I wonder why you people are getting so much thrilled when hearing about wars.All the nations urged Israel for ceasefire except US and it's B team England . Do you think that these attacks would wipe out Hizbollah form the world completely? .If you do,It's so sad coz if they achieve it I doubt whether somebody will remain in Lebenon with a living body . It's evident that anger against Israel are widespread among the youths (particularly in muslims).

            What a hypocritical statement. Hezbollah's political platform is the destruction of Isreal. It is completely based on hatred. Israel doesn't go around saying that other countries should be wiped off the map (like certain Muslim leaders do). Israel was shelled and had soldiers kidnapped and responded. We don't particularly care about killing Muslims. We just want to eliminate the hatred coming from your side of the aisle. Arab behavior is atrocious and really quite insane. I advocate war because the only way to straighten the Arab world out is by beating it into submission.


            "I curse economic prosperity as it puts an end to much-needed poverty, famine and pestilence." -dennisd45

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            I am not advocating for Hizbollah.But I am very much sure that the current actions of Israel is definitely going to help Hizbollah.Perhaps some other --bollahs may also emerge.

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              It is not brave to die for your people and your God?

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              Ahmad Al-Majiid wrote:

              It is not brave to die for your people and your God?

              1. Given that they die for the concept of martyrdom, they're actually dying to get laid. 2. Allowing your own women and children to continue dying in order to selfishly achieve martyrdom is actually murder. Refusing to give up for their sake is just that. 3. It is not brave to die by killing women and children for your God. Christian Martyrs have all died while refusing to dencounce their God (which is not something the West is attempting to force on Muslims). Oh, and as General Patton once said (at least in the movie Patton)...Nobody ever won a war by dying for their country. You win by making the other guy die for their country. -- modified at 12:53 Wednesday 2nd August, 2006

              "I curse economic prosperity as it puts an end to much-needed poverty, famine and pestilence." -dennisd45

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                Ahmad Al-Majiid wrote:

                It is not brave to die for your people and your God?

                1. Given that they die for the concept of martyrdom, they're actually dying to get laid. 2. Allowing your own women and children to continue dying in order to selfishly achieve martyrdom is actually murder. Refusing to give up for their sake is just that. 3. It is not brave to die by killing women and children for your God. Christian Martyrs have all died while refusing to dencounce their God (which is not something the West is attempting to force on Muslims). Oh, and as General Patton once said (at least in the movie Patton)...Nobody ever won a war by dying for their country. You win by making the other guy die for their country. -- modified at 12:53 Wednesday 2nd August, 2006

                "I curse economic prosperity as it puts an end to much-needed poverty, famine and pestilence." -dennisd45

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                If the west does not want Muslims to denounce their God, then why do they want women in Iraq and Afganistan to take off their veils?

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                  It is not brave to die for your people and your God?

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                  Vincent Reynolds
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                  Ahmad Al-Majiid wrote:

                  It is not brave to die for your people and your God?

                  "The object of war is not to die for your country but to make the other bastard die for his." --George S. Patton

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                    If the west does not want Muslims to denounce their God, then why do they want women in Iraq and Afganistan to take off their veils?

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                    Ahmad Al-Majiid wrote:

                    If the west does not want Muslims to denounce their God, then why do they want women in Iraq and Afganistan to take off their veils?

                    The West never made that demand. That's up to Afghanistan and Iraq. We don't even care if they wear them here in the US (but they have to remove them for driver license photos and such).


                    "I curse economic prosperity as it puts an end to much-needed poverty, famine and pestilence." -dennisd45

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                      It is not brave to die for your people and your God?

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                      Ahmad Al-Majiid wrote:

                      It is not brave to die for your people and your God?

                      :confused: :doh: -- modified at 13:15 Wednesday 2nd August, 2006

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                        It is not brave to die for your people and your God?

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                        Ahmad Al-Majiid wrote:

                        t is not brave to die for your people and your God?

                        Nope -its stupid. As a famous American General once said: "Its not your job to die for your country. Its your job to make some other poor son -of-a-bitch die for his". Richard

                        Suppose you were an idiot... And suppose you were a member of Congress... But I repeat myself. --Mark Twain

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                          jith - iii wrote:

                          I clearly know your opinion,but world is not as like you people think.Majority of the people want people.I wonder why you people are getting so much thrilled when hearing about wars.All the nations urged Israel for ceasefire except US and it's B team England . Do you think that these attacks would wipe out Hizbollah form the world completely? .If you do,It's so sad coz if they achieve it I doubt whether somebody will remain in Lebenon with a living body . It's evident that anger against Israel are widespread among the youths (particularly in muslims).

                          What a hypocritical statement. Hezbollah's political platform is the destruction of Isreal. It is completely based on hatred. Israel doesn't go around saying that other countries should be wiped off the map (like certain Muslim leaders do). Israel was shelled and had soldiers kidnapped and responded. We don't particularly care about killing Muslims. We just want to eliminate the hatred coming from your side of the aisle. Arab behavior is atrocious and really quite insane. I advocate war because the only way to straighten the Arab world out is by beating it into submission.


                          "I curse economic prosperity as it puts an end to much-needed poverty, famine and pestilence." -dennisd45

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                          You have to remember that Jith is a Stalinist and we know how Stalin loved a good purge.

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                            It is not brave to die for your people and your God?

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                            Ahmad Al-Majiid wrote:

                            It is not brave to die for your people and your God?

                            Well, if your God comes personally to you and askes you to die for him, it wouldn't be stupid. But if someone tells you God wants you to die for him, I wonder why those person don't die himself for the "obviously good" (that's sarcasm, ok?). Regards, Ingo

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                              Ahmad Al-Majiid wrote:

                              t is not brave to die for your people and your God?

                              Nope -its stupid. As a famous American General once said: "Its not your job to die for your country. Its your job to make some other poor son -of-a-bitch die for his". Richard

                              Suppose you were an idiot... And suppose you were a member of Congress... But I repeat myself. --Mark Twain

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                              Richard Stringer wrote:

                              Nope -its stupid. As a famous American General once said: "Its not your job to die for your country. Its your job to make some other poor son -of-a-bitch die for his".

                              Some wise words said by someone stupid? The funny is that everyone is a "other poor son -of-a-bitch" for someone. And because of this, we have wars. (ok, I've simplified that, but it's still true :) ) Regards, Ingo

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                                You have to remember that Jith is a Stalinist and we know how Stalin loved a good purge.

                                The evolution of the human genome is too important to be left to chance.

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                                Good.. I like your way of categorizing people.If somebosy feel suspicious about US history lessons about USSR leaders he is stalinist.If somebody oppose Israel's actions he is anti-semitic. if somebody speack against US policies he is anti-american. if somebody supports lebenon they are pro-terrorist. Good attitude..Keep it up. -- modified at 13:37 Wednesday 2nd August, 2006

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                                  It can be one of two scenarios: 1. The civilians are being held hostage by the Lebanese near their rockets so that when bombed, they will die and Israel will look bad in the court of public opinions. Lebanon would therefore be guilty of their deaths. 2. They intentionally stayed there in the hopes to be martyred (by making Israel look bad). In that case the civilians would be complicit and therefore be guilty. There is simply no excuse to hang around rockets while they're launching and being bombed unless you're partaking in the battle.


                                  "I curse economic prosperity as it puts an end to much-needed poverty, famine and pestilence." -dennisd45

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                                  jith iii
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                                  You would justify Israel even if they destroyed lLebenon completely and killed all her people. Even a child can guess that bombing in a city like qana would only help to kill lot of civilians.

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                                    Good.. I like your way of categorizing people.If somebosy feel suspicious about US history lessons about USSR leaders he is stalinist.If somebody oppose Israel's actions he is anti-semitic. if somebody speack against US policies he is anti-american. if somebody supports lebenon they are pro-terrorist. Good attitude..Keep it up. -- modified at 13:37 Wednesday 2nd August, 2006

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                                    jith - iii wrote:

                                    If somebosy feel suspicious about US history lessons about USSR leaders he is stalinist

                                    If I recall, you did more than this...You gave a glowing endorsement.


                                    "I curse economic prosperity as it puts an end to much-needed poverty, famine and pestilence." -dennisd45

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                                      It is not brave to die for your people and your God?

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                                        You would justify Israel even if they destroyed lLebenon completely and killed all her people. Even a child can guess that bombing in a city like qana would only help to kill lot of civilians.

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                                        jith - iii wrote:

                                        You would justify Israel even if they destroyed lLebenon completely and killed all her people. Even a child can guess that bombing in a city like qana would only help to kill lot of civilians.

                                        You're missing the part about missiles in residential neighborhoods. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to realize you shouldn't stick around.


                                        "I curse economic prosperity as it puts an end to much-needed poverty, famine and pestilence." -dennisd45

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                                          jith - iii wrote:

                                          If somebosy feel suspicious about US history lessons about USSR leaders he is stalinist

                                          If I recall, you did more than this...You gave a glowing endorsement.


                                          "I curse economic prosperity as it puts an end to much-needed poverty, famine and pestilence." -dennisd45

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                                          really ??.Is speaking for USSR a big crime in your place?.

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