Loving your job
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The thread below got me to thinking. One thing I'll never forget is catching a bus home and sitting in front of two girls, one complaining to the other that her job was hell on earth, but she wouldn't leave as it had a better retirement plan. She was early 20s and this was public service, so the retirement plan would not have been hugely different from one arm to the other. I remember thinking, she's gonna complain her whole life, so she can retire slightly closer, but still below, the poverty line. I started work at 20 ( kicked out of home, as it happens ), had a couple of reasonably dead end jobs, fell into sales, did that for 6 years, got sick of it, taught myself C++ and here I am. I've *never* hated a job, never had a bad boss, never been miserable at work ( excepting when I got sick of sales, and so I changed ). Having said that, programming is the one job I've had where what I do for a living is the most fun I have all day, where I look forward to work and think about it when I am not working. I just wonder what percentage of people are like me. Who actually *loves* their job, who kind of likes it, and who just codes for the money ? Cast your votes, with 5 meaning you just love programming, 1 meaning, it's a living.
Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog
I really like programming in general and I really really like my current job. The department head has gone out of his way to hire top quality programmers so I work with people who know as much about programming as I do which makes the job fun. :)
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The thread below got me to thinking. One thing I'll never forget is catching a bus home and sitting in front of two girls, one complaining to the other that her job was hell on earth, but she wouldn't leave as it had a better retirement plan. She was early 20s and this was public service, so the retirement plan would not have been hugely different from one arm to the other. I remember thinking, she's gonna complain her whole life, so she can retire slightly closer, but still below, the poverty line. I started work at 20 ( kicked out of home, as it happens ), had a couple of reasonably dead end jobs, fell into sales, did that for 6 years, got sick of it, taught myself C++ and here I am. I've *never* hated a job, never had a bad boss, never been miserable at work ( excepting when I got sick of sales, and so I changed ). Having said that, programming is the one job I've had where what I do for a living is the most fun I have all day, where I look forward to work and think about it when I am not working. I just wonder what percentage of people are like me. Who actually *loves* their job, who kind of likes it, and who just codes for the money ? Cast your votes, with 5 meaning you just love programming, 1 meaning, it's a living.
Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog
I agree with Jeremy. I like programming, hate all the other stuff. My last job went from great to awful during my last year. I was happy when doing programming, but loathed the increasingly arbitrary and clueless bureacracy. (The company also got very PC--heaven forbid you actually disagree with anyone in a meeting. And if you didn't say it would take a year to finish a three year project, you got reprimanded and, in my case, accused of not being part of the team and laid off. Toward the end, one developer asked if he could do something and I said I'd prefer he didn't. Instead of presenting a technical argument, he went whining to the boss like a little baby. I hate that crap.)
Anyone who thinks he has a better idea of what's good for people than people do is a swine. - P.J. O'Rourke
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Michael A. Barnhart wrote:
Before you rant on this
*grin* I honestly felt no rant building. Why did you think otherwise ? Or did you mean for readers in general ?
Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog
I know what the general concensus on requirements is around here. Not positive. :)
"Yes I know the voices are not real. But they have some pretty good ideas."
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The thread below got me to thinking. One thing I'll never forget is catching a bus home and sitting in front of two girls, one complaining to the other that her job was hell on earth, but she wouldn't leave as it had a better retirement plan. She was early 20s and this was public service, so the retirement plan would not have been hugely different from one arm to the other. I remember thinking, she's gonna complain her whole life, so she can retire slightly closer, but still below, the poverty line. I started work at 20 ( kicked out of home, as it happens ), had a couple of reasonably dead end jobs, fell into sales, did that for 6 years, got sick of it, taught myself C++ and here I am. I've *never* hated a job, never had a bad boss, never been miserable at work ( excepting when I got sick of sales, and so I changed ). Having said that, programming is the one job I've had where what I do for a living is the most fun I have all day, where I look forward to work and think about it when I am not working. I just wonder what percentage of people are like me. Who actually *loves* their job, who kind of likes it, and who just codes for the money ? Cast your votes, with 5 meaning you just love programming, 1 meaning, it's a living.
Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog
I was programming for years prior to getting a job of it, and would likely continue even if i couldn't get work. Speaking of looking forward to something: I just closed the instance of VS i had my VB.NET projects open in. Done with it, at least for today. I learned to program in BASIC, but moved on ten years ago - it's always nice when i'm able to sych my job with my hobby... :D
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I was programming for years prior to getting a job of it, and would likely continue even if i couldn't get work. Speaking of looking forward to something: I just closed the instance of VS i had my VB.NET projects open in. Done with it, at least for today. I learned to program in BASIC, but moved on ten years ago - it's always nice when i'm able to sych my job with my hobby... :D
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Shog9 wrote:
I just closed the instance of VS i had my VB.NET projects open in.
And you admit this in public? :omg:;P
Jeremy Falcon
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The thread below got me to thinking. One thing I'll never forget is catching a bus home and sitting in front of two girls, one complaining to the other that her job was hell on earth, but she wouldn't leave as it had a better retirement plan. She was early 20s and this was public service, so the retirement plan would not have been hugely different from one arm to the other. I remember thinking, she's gonna complain her whole life, so she can retire slightly closer, but still below, the poverty line. I started work at 20 ( kicked out of home, as it happens ), had a couple of reasonably dead end jobs, fell into sales, did that for 6 years, got sick of it, taught myself C++ and here I am. I've *never* hated a job, never had a bad boss, never been miserable at work ( excepting when I got sick of sales, and so I changed ). Having said that, programming is the one job I've had where what I do for a living is the most fun I have all day, where I look forward to work and think about it when I am not working. I just wonder what percentage of people are like me. Who actually *loves* their job, who kind of likes it, and who just codes for the money ? Cast your votes, with 5 meaning you just love programming, 1 meaning, it's a living.
Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog
Aparently I fit into the patern so far. Loving the job, but the industry can be a real pain in the posterior sometimes. When that happens, I guess it's time to look around for other good deals. No need staying around and explainig colours to color blind people. The thing is that there are companies that realise that their employees need to be happy in order to be productive. And most times all the crap you have to put up with just gets in the way of you doing a job you are satisfied with. From my experience so far, aparently companies don't pay too much attention to this untill the news of someone resigning. When that happens it's already too late for any turn around.
regards, Mircea Many people spend their life going to sleep when they’re not sleepy and waking up while they still are.
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The thread below got me to thinking. One thing I'll never forget is catching a bus home and sitting in front of two girls, one complaining to the other that her job was hell on earth, but she wouldn't leave as it had a better retirement plan. She was early 20s and this was public service, so the retirement plan would not have been hugely different from one arm to the other. I remember thinking, she's gonna complain her whole life, so she can retire slightly closer, but still below, the poverty line. I started work at 20 ( kicked out of home, as it happens ), had a couple of reasonably dead end jobs, fell into sales, did that for 6 years, got sick of it, taught myself C++ and here I am. I've *never* hated a job, never had a bad boss, never been miserable at work ( excepting when I got sick of sales, and so I changed ). Having said that, programming is the one job I've had where what I do for a living is the most fun I have all day, where I look forward to work and think about it when I am not working. I just wonder what percentage of people are like me. Who actually *loves* their job, who kind of likes it, and who just codes for the money ? Cast your votes, with 5 meaning you just love programming, 1 meaning, it's a living.
Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog
I love programming! (Although, I've been curious what it would be like to work in another field) I quit my first job after only a year. That job started out well (wrote software for phone card services), was appreciated by my coworkers, and had a great time. After that gig I was put in a maintainance project of a really OLD, SICK, HUGELY COMPLEX and WICKED system for issue tracking. This was a huge company, probably one of the biggest telecom companies in the world. When I woke up one morning wondering why the hell I was wasting my time on mainframe systems about as old as me, satellite systems designed to overcome the bugs in every other node in these systems, I decided to quit. Went back to university to finish my master's degree, while teaching. When I realized I didn't like teaching*, I quit that job to hook up with old university friends, writing POS software. Which is where I am today. :) *The teaching per se was pretty fun. I just didn't like the fact that some student's fail. It felt like I had failed. I realize that not everyone do succeed, but feelings sometimes doesn't listen to reason. :)
-- Not based on the Novel by James Fenimore Cooper
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I love programming. :-D I love the area I'm working in (vector graphics based UIs), like what I'm currently working on (a particular implementation of that, tailored for a client's needs), and dislike the situation I'm working in (poor pay, high demands, colleagues/management don't know a lot about programming). I'll be moving to working with a new client very soon though, and I'm excited about what I'll be doing there (vector graphics, distributed network layer, GIS) - it's highly innovative, the coolness factor is high, and the people I'll be working with seem great to work with.
J. Dunlap wrote:
and the people I'll be working with seem great to work with
Besides the love for what you do, that too has to work out. I couldn't stand working in a place where I didn't like the people.
-- Filmed on Location
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Shog9 wrote:
I just closed the instance of VS i had my VB.NET projects open in.
And you admit this in public? :omg:;P
Jeremy Falcon
Some people here continue to insist that VB[.NET] is worth using, and that those who criticize it are elitist snobs. I've no problems admitting to using it, so long as i'm also allowed to state - as an informed opinion - that it is a complete and utter piece of shit, created only to make my life miserable. :)
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The thread below got me to thinking. One thing I'll never forget is catching a bus home and sitting in front of two girls, one complaining to the other that her job was hell on earth, but she wouldn't leave as it had a better retirement plan. She was early 20s and this was public service, so the retirement plan would not have been hugely different from one arm to the other. I remember thinking, she's gonna complain her whole life, so she can retire slightly closer, but still below, the poverty line. I started work at 20 ( kicked out of home, as it happens ), had a couple of reasonably dead end jobs, fell into sales, did that for 6 years, got sick of it, taught myself C++ and here I am. I've *never* hated a job, never had a bad boss, never been miserable at work ( excepting when I got sick of sales, and so I changed ). Having said that, programming is the one job I've had where what I do for a living is the most fun I have all day, where I look forward to work and think about it when I am not working. I just wonder what percentage of people are like me. Who actually *loves* their job, who kind of likes it, and who just codes for the money ? Cast your votes, with 5 meaning you just love programming, 1 meaning, it's a living.
Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog
I love programming - but sometimes I hate myself for it.
Thank God for disproportional force.
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I know what the general concensus on requirements is around here. Not positive. :)
"Yes I know the voices are not real. But they have some pretty good ideas."
Really ? How does a team work together if no-one manages requirements ? That's just dumb.
Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog
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Some people here continue to insist that VB[.NET] is worth using, and that those who criticize it are elitist snobs. I've no problems admitting to using it, so long as i'm also allowed to state - as an informed opinion - that it is a complete and utter piece of shit, created only to make my life miserable. :)
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Shog9 wrote:
that it is a complete and utter piece of sh*t, created only to make my life miserable.
LMAO!
Jeremy Falcon
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The thread below got me to thinking. One thing I'll never forget is catching a bus home and sitting in front of two girls, one complaining to the other that her job was hell on earth, but she wouldn't leave as it had a better retirement plan. She was early 20s and this was public service, so the retirement plan would not have been hugely different from one arm to the other. I remember thinking, she's gonna complain her whole life, so she can retire slightly closer, but still below, the poverty line. I started work at 20 ( kicked out of home, as it happens ), had a couple of reasonably dead end jobs, fell into sales, did that for 6 years, got sick of it, taught myself C++ and here I am. I've *never* hated a job, never had a bad boss, never been miserable at work ( excepting when I got sick of sales, and so I changed ). Having said that, programming is the one job I've had where what I do for a living is the most fun I have all day, where I look forward to work and think about it when I am not working. I just wonder what percentage of people are like me. Who actually *loves* their job, who kind of likes it, and who just codes for the money ? Cast your votes, with 5 meaning you just love programming, 1 meaning, it's a living.
Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog
Well, builiding a business out of programming means I love it, and I am ready to put countless hours on it. However, I must say there are times I hate it and wish I had started an easier business like a store in a shopping mall!! (For example, when I late for a deadline or when a customer changes and changes requirements!) But it's a great job. I love accomplishing difficult things in elegant and simple ways. That feeling, it is just great! :)
Luis Alonso Ramos Intelectix Chihuahua, Mexico
Not much here: My CP Blog!
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The thread below got me to thinking. One thing I'll never forget is catching a bus home and sitting in front of two girls, one complaining to the other that her job was hell on earth, but she wouldn't leave as it had a better retirement plan. She was early 20s and this was public service, so the retirement plan would not have been hugely different from one arm to the other. I remember thinking, she's gonna complain her whole life, so she can retire slightly closer, but still below, the poverty line. I started work at 20 ( kicked out of home, as it happens ), had a couple of reasonably dead end jobs, fell into sales, did that for 6 years, got sick of it, taught myself C++ and here I am. I've *never* hated a job, never had a bad boss, never been miserable at work ( excepting when I got sick of sales, and so I changed ). Having said that, programming is the one job I've had where what I do for a living is the most fun I have all day, where I look forward to work and think about it when I am not working. I just wonder what percentage of people are like me. Who actually *loves* their job, who kind of likes it, and who just codes for the money ? Cast your votes, with 5 meaning you just love programming, 1 meaning, it's a living.
Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog
Christian Graus wrote:
I just wonder what percentage of people are like me. Who actually *loves* their job, who kind of likes it, and who just codes for the money ? Cast your votes, with 5 meaning you just love programming, 1 meaning, it's a living.
I love my job, most of the time. I love the work, I love subject, I love the chance to play with state of the art toys, I love the chance to help people, but most of all I love the chance to do R&D -- it is a chance to be creative, the "invent" new things, apply other programmer's work in ways they never expected. I love the job. The hours I could do without, the politics I could do without, and a couple of the people I clash with once in a while, especially those that expect me to survive 70 hour weeks healthy (not counting 2 hours on the road a day). Still, over all, I really do love the job. Of course my only comparisons are architecture draftsman, grocery bag-boy, phone sales, gardening, and accounting. :)
_________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
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The thread below got me to thinking. One thing I'll never forget is catching a bus home and sitting in front of two girls, one complaining to the other that her job was hell on earth, but she wouldn't leave as it had a better retirement plan. She was early 20s and this was public service, so the retirement plan would not have been hugely different from one arm to the other. I remember thinking, she's gonna complain her whole life, so she can retire slightly closer, but still below, the poverty line. I started work at 20 ( kicked out of home, as it happens ), had a couple of reasonably dead end jobs, fell into sales, did that for 6 years, got sick of it, taught myself C++ and here I am. I've *never* hated a job, never had a bad boss, never been miserable at work ( excepting when I got sick of sales, and so I changed ). Having said that, programming is the one job I've had where what I do for a living is the most fun I have all day, where I look forward to work and think about it when I am not working. I just wonder what percentage of people are like me. Who actually *loves* their job, who kind of likes it, and who just codes for the money ? Cast your votes, with 5 meaning you just love programming, 1 meaning, it's a living.
Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog
My job is incredibly difficult and challenging, which is what I love about it. I've always said that we (all of us in IT) are incredibly fortunate to be able to get up and go do something we enjoy. Unfortunately, most people in the world don't share that experience and are stuck doing something they hate that takes up at least 1/3 of their life.
Tom Archer (blog) Program Manager - Windows SDK Headers, Libraries & Tools MICROSOFT
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The thread below got me to thinking. One thing I'll never forget is catching a bus home and sitting in front of two girls, one complaining to the other that her job was hell on earth, but she wouldn't leave as it had a better retirement plan. She was early 20s and this was public service, so the retirement plan would not have been hugely different from one arm to the other. I remember thinking, she's gonna complain her whole life, so she can retire slightly closer, but still below, the poverty line. I started work at 20 ( kicked out of home, as it happens ), had a couple of reasonably dead end jobs, fell into sales, did that for 6 years, got sick of it, taught myself C++ and here I am. I've *never* hated a job, never had a bad boss, never been miserable at work ( excepting when I got sick of sales, and so I changed ). Having said that, programming is the one job I've had where what I do for a living is the most fun I have all day, where I look forward to work and think about it when I am not working. I just wonder what percentage of people are like me. Who actually *loves* their job, who kind of likes it, and who just codes for the money ? Cast your votes, with 5 meaning you just love programming, 1 meaning, it's a living.
Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog
If the University that I went to didn't make EEs take lots of computer classes, I would be miserable too...I love what I do (software design)...to the point of working at home and coming to work on my days off (on my own time)...I even created a couple of applications over the Christmas breaks that the company sells for major $$$...they were originally intended to aid in internal software testing of another project but we found that they were also useful for operations / maintanence field training and doing customer site demos ... :sweet: & :cool: Steve
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I love programming! (Although, I've been curious what it would be like to work in another field) I quit my first job after only a year. That job started out well (wrote software for phone card services), was appreciated by my coworkers, and had a great time. After that gig I was put in a maintainance project of a really OLD, SICK, HUGELY COMPLEX and WICKED system for issue tracking. This was a huge company, probably one of the biggest telecom companies in the world. When I woke up one morning wondering why the hell I was wasting my time on mainframe systems about as old as me, satellite systems designed to overcome the bugs in every other node in these systems, I decided to quit. Went back to university to finish my master's degree, while teaching. When I realized I didn't like teaching*, I quit that job to hook up with old university friends, writing POS software. Which is where I am today. :) *The teaching per se was pretty fun. I just didn't like the fact that some student's fail. It felt like I had failed. I realize that not everyone do succeed, but feelings sometimes doesn't listen to reason. :)
-- Not based on the Novel by James Fenimore Cooper
The teaching per se was pretty fun. I just didn't like the fact that some student's fail. It felt like I had failed. I realize that not everyone do succeed, but feelings sometimes doesn't listen to reason. I know exactly what you mean, I did a short stint teaching at my Univ too and I came to the same decision for the same reason. Steve
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The thread below got me to thinking. One thing I'll never forget is catching a bus home and sitting in front of two girls, one complaining to the other that her job was hell on earth, but she wouldn't leave as it had a better retirement plan. She was early 20s and this was public service, so the retirement plan would not have been hugely different from one arm to the other. I remember thinking, she's gonna complain her whole life, so she can retire slightly closer, but still below, the poverty line. I started work at 20 ( kicked out of home, as it happens ), had a couple of reasonably dead end jobs, fell into sales, did that for 6 years, got sick of it, taught myself C++ and here I am. I've *never* hated a job, never had a bad boss, never been miserable at work ( excepting when I got sick of sales, and so I changed ). Having said that, programming is the one job I've had where what I do for a living is the most fun I have all day, where I look forward to work and think about it when I am not working. I just wonder what percentage of people are like me. Who actually *loves* their job, who kind of likes it, and who just codes for the money ? Cast your votes, with 5 meaning you just love programming, 1 meaning, it's a living.
Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog
My job is like my marriage. I'd rather be programming then not working. Just as I'd rather be married to my wife then single. But that doesn't mean it great all the time. 4.
how vital enterprise application are for proactive organizations leveraging collective synergy to think outside the box and formulate their key objectives into a win-win game plan with a quality-driven approach that focuses on empowering key players to drive-up their core competencies and increase expectations with an all-around initiative to drive up the bottom-line. But of course, that's all a "high level" overview of things --thedailywtf 3/21/06
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My job is like my marriage. I'd rather be programming then not working. Just as I'd rather be married to my wife then single. But that doesn't mean it great all the time. 4.
how vital enterprise application are for proactive organizations leveraging collective synergy to think outside the box and formulate their key objectives into a win-win game plan with a quality-driven approach that focuses on empowering key players to drive-up their core competencies and increase expectations with an all-around initiative to drive up the bottom-line. But of course, that's all a "high level" overview of things --thedailywtf 3/21/06
ToddHileHoffer wrote:
My job is like my marriage
ToddHileHoffer wrote:
But that doesn't mean it great all the time.
She doesn't use the Internet then ? :P
Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog
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The thread below got me to thinking. One thing I'll never forget is catching a bus home and sitting in front of two girls, one complaining to the other that her job was hell on earth, but she wouldn't leave as it had a better retirement plan. She was early 20s and this was public service, so the retirement plan would not have been hugely different from one arm to the other. I remember thinking, she's gonna complain her whole life, so she can retire slightly closer, but still below, the poverty line. I started work at 20 ( kicked out of home, as it happens ), had a couple of reasonably dead end jobs, fell into sales, did that for 6 years, got sick of it, taught myself C++ and here I am. I've *never* hated a job, never had a bad boss, never been miserable at work ( excepting when I got sick of sales, and so I changed ). Having said that, programming is the one job I've had where what I do for a living is the most fun I have all day, where I look forward to work and think about it when I am not working. I just wonder what percentage of people are like me. Who actually *loves* their job, who kind of likes it, and who just codes for the money ? Cast your votes, with 5 meaning you just love programming, 1 meaning, it's a living.
Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog
I was up at 2am last night happily working away on some code for work. I definitley love it :) As for complaining... I may be wrong but attitude is a big part of job satisfaction. That young woman could be given her dream job and would be complaining about it within 2 months. Doesn't matter what the job is, she'll find a way to complain about it. Attitude.
regards, Paul Watson Ireland FeedHenry needs you
eh, stop bugging me about it, give it a couple of days, see what happens.