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  • S srt123

    It's only you ;P

    ---------------------------------------------------------------- The next time you get bogged down by details, don't scramble for a way to figure out how to get every single one of them down pat. For a good example of this warning, look at a particularly tightly wound coworker or friend: The stress in their life is mostly self-inflicted, and the extra efforts they put out are rarely rewarded. Skip the martyr act and keep things simple. If small problems pop up, they pop up -- and they make life

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    Josh Smith
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    srt123 wrote:

    It's only you

    I doubt it. That was a rhetorical question. ;)

    :josh: My WPF Blog[^]

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    • J Josh Smith

      or does looking at really stupid code make you feel sick to your stomach, too? X|

      :josh: My WPF Blog[^]

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      Jim Crafton
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      Oooh, ooh, post the code! Post the code! :) That way we can share your pain :)

      ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! Real Mentats use only 100% pure, unfooled around with Sapho Juice(tm)! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF!

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        Oooh, ooh, post the code! Post the code! :) That way we can share your pain :)

        ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! Real Mentats use only 100% pure, unfooled around with Sapho Juice(tm)! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF!

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        Josh Smith
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        Jim Crafton wrote:

        Oooh, ooh, post the code! Post the code!

        I can't. I don't want to violate my NDA! :~ General gist:

        class TextReederHelper
        {
        int i;
        int ii = 72;
        public TextReederHelper()
        {
        //ii = -12;
        //ii = -12;
        ii = -12;
        }

        public int AddValuesIntegerlly( int i, int ii )
        {
        if( i < ii ) return i + ii;
        return i + ii; }
        }

        Holy Bunghole, I'm gonna heave! :wtf:

        :josh: My WPF Blog[^]

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          Jim Crafton wrote:

          Oooh, ooh, post the code! Post the code!

          I can't. I don't want to violate my NDA! :~ General gist:

          class TextReederHelper
          {
          int i;
          int ii = 72;
          public TextReederHelper()
          {
          //ii = -12;
          //ii = -12;
          ii = -12;
          }

          public int AddValuesIntegerlly( int i, int ii )
          {
          if( i < ii ) return i + ii;
          return i + ii; }
          }

          Holy Bunghole, I'm gonna heave! :wtf:

          :josh: My WPF Blog[^]

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          WTF

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          • J Josh Smith

            or does looking at really stupid code make you feel sick to your stomach, too? X|

            :josh: My WPF Blog[^]

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            El Corazon
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            Josh Smith wrote:

            or does looking at really stupid code make you feel sick to your stomach, too?

            I can see the white paper now.... The study of Neural Receivers and the observation of Redundant source code and its relationship to upset tummies.

            _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)

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            • D dighn

              WTF

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              Josh Smith
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              dighn wrote:

              WTF

              I don't currently work with code that bad, but I have seen production code of that "quality" level. I kid you not. In fact, someone very near and dear to me works with code just like that (that person didn't write it, but maintains it). I'm not saying that some of the code I see at work isn't close to that level, though. Some people just don't know what-the-F they're doing. Seriously.

              :josh: My WPF Blog[^]

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                Josh Smith wrote:

                or does looking at really stupid code make you feel sick to your stomach, too?

                I can see the white paper now.... The study of Neural Receivers and the observation of Redundant source code and its relationship to upset tummies.

                _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)

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                Jeffry J. Brickley wrote:

                The study of Neural Receivers and the observation of Redundant source code and its relationship to upset tummies.

                hehehe. Yeah, the cure Tums with Refactoring.

                :josh: My WPF Blog[^]

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                  Jim Crafton wrote:

                  Oooh, ooh, post the code! Post the code!

                  I can't. I don't want to violate my NDA! :~ General gist:

                  class TextReederHelper
                  {
                  int i;
                  int ii = 72;
                  public TextReederHelper()
                  {
                  //ii = -12;
                  //ii = -12;
                  ii = -12;
                  }

                  public int AddValuesIntegerlly( int i, int ii )
                  {
                  if( i < ii ) return i + ii;
                  return i + ii; }
                  }

                  Holy Bunghole, I'm gonna heave! :wtf:

                  :josh: My WPF Blog[^]

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                  Jim Crafton
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                  That's just sad... I've seen the following: (verbatim quote from Java)

                  String s = new Object();

                  This was checked into source code as part of the individual's assigned programming work. Sadly there were more golden nuggets like this, but I always remembered this one. I believe part of his problem was that he spent WAY too much time day trading...

                  ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! Real Mentats use only 100% pure, unfooled around with Sapho Juice(tm)! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF!

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                  • J Jim Crafton

                    That's just sad... I've seen the following: (verbatim quote from Java)

                    String s = new Object();

                    This was checked into source code as part of the individual's assigned programming work. Sadly there were more golden nuggets like this, but I always remembered this one. I believe part of his problem was that he spent WAY too much time day trading...

                    ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! Real Mentats use only 100% pure, unfooled around with Sapho Juice(tm)! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF!

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                    Judah Gabriel Himango
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                    Jim Crafton wrote:

                    String s = new Object();

                    How the heck does that compile? Are you sure it wasn't:

                    String s = (String)new Object();

                    ? Or did this student dare not attempt to compile? ;P

                    Tech, life, family, faith: Give me a visit. I'm currently blogging about: Messianic Instrumentals (with audio) The apostle Paul, modernly speaking: Epistles of Paul Judah Himango

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                      Jeffry J. Brickley wrote:

                      The study of Neural Receivers and the observation of Redundant source code and its relationship to upset tummies.

                      hehehe. Yeah, the cure Tums with Refactoring.

                      :josh: My WPF Blog[^]

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                      WillemM
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                      Asperine v3.0 ;P The version number is there to differentiate from the normal Asperine.

                      WM.
                      What about weapons of mass-construction?

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                      • J Judah Gabriel Himango

                        Jim Crafton wrote:

                        String s = new Object();

                        How the heck does that compile? Are you sure it wasn't:

                        String s = (String)new Object();

                        ? Or did this student dare not attempt to compile? ;P

                        Tech, life, family, faith: Give me a visit. I'm currently blogging about: Messianic Instrumentals (with audio) The apostle Paul, modernly speaking: Epistles of Paul Judah Himango

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                        Jim Crafton
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                        No, this little gem was written by a Java "professional" consultant, working for an unnamed consulting firm (you'd probably recognize the firm), who was being billed out at around $180/hour to an unnamed client. It did in fact break the build, and I was less than thrilled to find it, since I was the project lead for that group and he was on my team. We exchanged words.

                        ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! Real Mentats use only 100% pure, unfooled around with Sapho Juice(tm)! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF!

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                        • J Josh Smith

                          or does looking at really stupid code make you feel sick to your stomach, too? X|

                          :josh: My WPF Blog[^]

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                          Christopher Duncan
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                          I once saw a routine from a junior level programmer (though not to read the 14 degrees and certifications on his resume) that was a replacement for atoi() because he didn't realize it existed. What's even better is that the routine (a couple of screens long) had errors on almost every single line. Really. My only regret is not having printed it out so that I could frame it. No, looking at code like that doesn't make me sick. It makes me feel like an experienced programmer who should be charging more. :-D

                          Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes www.PracticalStrategyConsulting.com

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                            No, this little gem was written by a Java "professional" consultant, working for an unnamed consulting firm (you'd probably recognize the firm), who was being billed out at around $180/hour to an unnamed client. It did in fact break the build, and I was less than thrilled to find it, since I was the project lead for that group and he was on my team. We exchanged words.

                            ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! Real Mentats use only 100% pure, unfooled around with Sapho Juice(tm)! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF!

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                            Judah Gabriel Himango
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                            Jim Crafton wrote:

                            No, this little gem was written by a Java "professional" consultant, working for an unnamed consulting firm (you'd probably recognize the firm), who was being billed out at around $180/hour to an unnamed client.

                            jeez that's cringingly bad. Wow.

                            Tech, life, family, faith: Give me a visit. I'm currently blogging about: Messianic Instrumentals (with audio) The apostle Paul, modernly speaking: Epistles of Paul Judah Himango

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                              I once saw a routine from a junior level programmer (though not to read the 14 degrees and certifications on his resume) that was a replacement for atoi() because he didn't realize it existed. What's even better is that the routine (a couple of screens long) had errors on almost every single line. Really. My only regret is not having printed it out so that I could frame it. No, looking at code like that doesn't make me sick. It makes me feel like an experienced programmer who should be charging more. :-D

                              Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes www.PracticalStrategyConsulting.com

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                              Josh Smith
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                              Christopher Duncan wrote:

                              No, looking at code like that doesn't make me sick. It makes me feel like an experienced programmer who should be charging more.

                              Lucky dog. If I ever were to work in a shop with the programmer you described, I'd need to keep a barf bag fastened to my face all day.

                              :josh: My WPF Blog[^]

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                                I once saw a routine from a junior level programmer (though not to read the 14 degrees and certifications on his resume) that was a replacement for atoi() because he didn't realize it existed. What's even better is that the routine (a couple of screens long) had errors on almost every single line. Really. My only regret is not having printed it out so that I could frame it. No, looking at code like that doesn't make me sick. It makes me feel like an experienced programmer who should be charging more. :-D

                                Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes www.PracticalStrategyConsulting.com

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                                Jeremy Falcon
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                                Christopher Duncan wrote:

                                atoi()

                                How do other people pronounce that? Right or wrong, I've gotten used to saying something along the lines of "a-toy" rather than "a-to-i" over the years. I must admit I've gotten some odd looks before. :laugh:

                                Jeremy Falcon

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                                  No, this little gem was written by a Java "professional" consultant, working for an unnamed consulting firm (you'd probably recognize the firm), who was being billed out at around $180/hour to an unnamed client. It did in fact break the build, and I was less than thrilled to find it, since I was the project lead for that group and he was on my team. We exchanged words.

                                  ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! Real Mentats use only 100% pure, unfooled around with Sapho Juice(tm)! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF!

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                                  Jeremy Falcon
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                                  Jim Crafton wrote:

                                  No, this little gem was written by a Java "professional" consultant, working for an unnamed consulting firm (you'd probably recognize the firm), who was being billed out at around $180/hour to an unnamed client.

                                  Because usually the people that make those decisions are pay that much haven't a clue as to anything about programming. It's how they present themselves that matter, not whether or not they are actually good at programming. Sad really.

                                  Jeremy Falcon

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                                    srt123 wrote:

                                    It's only you

                                    I doubt it. That was a rhetorical question. ;)

                                    :josh: My WPF Blog[^]

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                                    Jeremy Falcon
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                                    No really, it's only you. ;P

                                    Jeremy Falcon

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                                      Christopher Duncan wrote:

                                      atoi()

                                      How do other people pronounce that? Right or wrong, I've gotten used to saying something along the lines of "a-toy" rather than "a-to-i" over the years. I must admit I've gotten some odd looks before. :laugh:

                                      Jeremy Falcon

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                                      Jeremy Falcon wrote:

                                      How do other people pronounce that?

                                      Ah-too-y - like a non-productive sneeze.

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                                        Jeremy Falcon wrote:

                                        How do other people pronounce that?

                                        Ah-too-y - like a non-productive sneeze.

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                                        Jeremy Falcon
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                                        Shog9 wrote:

                                        like a non-productive sneeze.

                                        :laugh:

                                        Jeremy Falcon

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                                        • J Josh Smith

                                          or does looking at really stupid code make you feel sick to your stomach, too? X|

                                          :josh: My WPF Blog[^]

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                                          Only when i think i'll be needing to make changes to it. Funny, i was just talking to a co-worker about this very subject earlier. A few years back, we came close to absorbing the care and feeding of a product we'd obtained along with the small company that created it. Too many VB files to count, each one a form, each form stuffed with all the DB access code (including hard-coded IDs, indexes, and actual data) required to make it work. Scary, ugly, sickening stuff.

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