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  • J Judah Gabriel Himango

    Hi Nish I've got a Pentium 4 HT 2.8GHZ, 1GB RAM, ATI Radeon 9700 card, and it's been running Vista with no problems. I recently upgraded to 2 GB of RAM and hardly noticed a speed increase.

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    Nish Nishant
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    Judah Himango wrote:

    I've got a Pentium 4 HT 2.8GHZ, 1GB RAM, ATI Radeon 9700 card, and it's been running Vista with no problems. I recently upgraded to 2 GB of RAM and hardly noticed a speed increase.

    Thanks Judah. Looks like a new machine with standard specs would easily run Vista.

    Regards, Nish


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    • P Professor Sharada Ulhas

      Nishant Sivakumar wrote:

      Could you suggest the spec for a machine that'd run Vista Beta smoothly? Specifically the video card. We are trying to put together a machine for testing out Vista.

      Yes: God's Own Machine: -128 core processor, each core with 4 hardware threads each. -32 Terabytes of RAM -Tri-port PCI-Express video card with 2 Exabyte video memory (you can "borrow" one of these from your nearest deserted alien crash site) I have a doubt. But I have my students run this setup for every homework assignment given them. Unfortunately, they keep posting the homework assignments on the CPian sites, so I give them blackened grades.

      Sincelery yours, Computer Information conSciences Professor and grader, Sharada Ulhas

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      Professor Sharada Ulhas wrote:

      Yes: God's Own Machine: -128 core processor, each core with 4 hardware threads each. -32 Terabytes of RAM -Tri-port PCI-Express video card with 2 Exabyte video memory (you can "borrow" one of these from your nearest deserted alien crash site) I have a doubt. But I have my students run this setup for every homework assignment given them. Unfortunately, they keep posting the homework assignments on the CPian sites, so I give them blackened grades.

      :sigh: Failed humor is as pathetic as it can get!

      Regards, Nish


      Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET (my blog)
      Currently working on C++/CLI in Action for Manning Publications. Also visit the Ultimate Toolbox blog (New)

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        Professor Sharada Ulhas wrote:

        Yes: God's Own Machine: -128 core processor, each core with 4 hardware threads each. -32 Terabytes of RAM -Tri-port PCI-Express video card with 2 Exabyte video memory (you can "borrow" one of these from your nearest deserted alien crash site) I have a doubt. But I have my students run this setup for every homework assignment given them. Unfortunately, they keep posting the homework assignments on the CPian sites, so I give them blackened grades.

        :sigh: Failed humor is as pathetic as it can get!

        Regards, Nish


        Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET (my blog)
        Currently working on C++/CLI in Action for Manning Publications. Also visit the Ultimate Toolbox blog (New)

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        Judah Gabriel Himango
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        Aww, come on now Nish. It's fun posting it. :)

        Tech, life, family, faith: Give me a visit. I'm currently blogging about: And in this corner, the Party of Allah The apostle Paul, modernly speaking: Epistles of Paul Judah Himango

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        • J Judah Gabriel Himango

          Aww, come on now Nish. It's fun posting it. :)

          Tech, life, family, faith: Give me a visit. I'm currently blogging about: And in this corner, the Party of Allah The apostle Paul, modernly speaking: Epistles of Paul Judah Himango

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          Nish Nishant
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          Judah Himango wrote:

          Aww, come on now Nish. It's fun posting it.

          Yeah, but Professor Sharada Ulhas's humor is repetitive - see all his posts - they are of a similar nature, and try to reuse the same joke :sigh:

          Regards, Nish


          Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET (my blog)
          Currently working on C++/CLI in Action for Manning Publications. Also visit the Ultimate Toolbox blog (New)

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          • D Douglas Troy

            Nish, Microsoft has a section on their Vista webpage that details system specifications for running Vista. Vista PC Requirements[^] They also detail what kind of Video card you'd need to run Areo.


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            Chris Maunder
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            "We’re sorry, but there is no Microsoft.com Web page that matches your entry" :confused: Try: Windows Vista Capable and Premium Ready PCs[^] Notes regarding specific hardware requirements[^] -- modified at 11:48 Friday 18th August, 2006

            cheers, Chris Maunder

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            • N Nish Nishant

              Judah Himango wrote:

              Aww, come on now Nish. It's fun posting it.

              Yeah, but Professor Sharada Ulhas's humor is repetitive - see all his posts - they are of a similar nature, and try to reuse the same joke :sigh:

              Regards, Nish


              Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET (my blog)
              Currently working on C++/CLI in Action for Manning Publications. Also visit the Ultimate Toolbox blog (New)

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              Judah Gabriel Himango
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              Maybe you have a point. But granted, he usually shows up only for whacking people posting their homework questions, so his posts are usually similar in nature. :)

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              • J Judah Gabriel Himango

                Maybe you have a point. But granted, he usually shows up only for whacking people posting their homework questions, so his posts are usually similar in nature. :)

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                Nish Nishant
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                Judah Himango wrote:

                Maybe you have a point. But granted, he usually shows up only for whacking people posting their homework questions, so his posts are usually similar in nature.

                I'd like to know who he really is. I am sure he has a more regular ID on CP and that this masked crusader role is one he maintains in parallel.

                Regards, Nish


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                • N Nish Nishant

                  Judah Himango wrote:

                  Maybe you have a point. But granted, he usually shows up only for whacking people posting their homework questions, so his posts are usually similar in nature.

                  I'd like to know who he really is. I am sure he has a more regular ID on CP and that this masked crusader role is one he maintains in parallel.

                  Regards, Nish


                  Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET (my blog)
                  Currently working on C++/CLI in Action for Manning Publications. Also visit the Ultimate Toolbox blog (New)

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                  Judah Gabriel Himango
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                  Yes, me too. I can pretty much guarantee his last name is Himango. but i still have a doubt who he is on the cpians. ;)

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                  • J Judah Gabriel Himango

                    Yes, me too. I can pretty much guarantee his last name is Himango. but i still have a doubt who he is on the cpians. ;)

                    Tech, life, family, faith: Give me a visit. I'm currently blogging about: And in this corner, the Party of Allah The apostle Paul, modernly speaking: Epistles of Paul Judah Himango

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                    Nish Nishant
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                    Judah Himango wrote:

                    Yes, me too. I can pretty much guarantee his last name is Himango. but i still have a doubt who he is on the cpians.

                    *gasp* I'd never have guessed it was you!!! :doh:

                    Regards, Nish


                    Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET (my blog)
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                    • N Nish Nishant

                      Judah Himango wrote:

                      Yes, me too. I can pretty much guarantee his last name is Himango. but i still have a doubt who he is on the cpians.

                      *gasp* I'd never have guessed it was you!!! :doh:

                      Regards, Nish


                      Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET (my blog)
                      Currently working on C++/CLI in Action for Manning Publications. Also visit the Ultimate Toolbox blog (New)

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                      Judah Gabriel Himango
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                      Nishant Sivakumar wrote:

                      I'd never have guessed it was you!

                      Good, easy to keep my cover then. :)

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                      • J Judah Gabriel Himango

                        Nishant Sivakumar wrote:

                        I'd never have guessed it was you!

                        Good, easy to keep my cover then. :)

                        Tech, life, family, faith: Give me a visit. I'm currently blogging about: And in this corner, the Party of Allah The apostle Paul, modernly speaking: Epistles of Paul Judah Himango

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                        Nish Nishant
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                        Judah Himango wrote:

                        Good, easy to keep my cover then.

                        I was misled by the "I have a doubt" phrase which is a typical non-native speaker's usage. The disguise was excellent, Judah :-)

                        Regards, Nish


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                        • C Chris Maunder

                          "We’re sorry, but there is no Microsoft.com Web page that matches your entry" :confused: Try: Windows Vista Capable and Premium Ready PCs[^] Notes regarding specific hardware requirements[^] -- modified at 11:48 Friday 18th August, 2006

                          cheers, Chris Maunder

                          CodeProject.com : C++ MVP

                          FIX: A MFC program created in Visual Studio .NET 2003 unexpectedly quits when you try to close it[^]

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                          oddly enough, the URL of your first link and mine are identical ... The Vista Omen ... Be afraid. Be very, very afraid ... :~


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                          • N Nish Nishant

                            Judah Himango wrote:

                            Good, easy to keep my cover then.

                            I was misled by the "I have a doubt" phrase which is a typical non-native speaker's usage. The disguise was excellent, Judah :-)

                            Regards, Nish


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                            Judah Gabriel Himango
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                            Heheh, good. I've had my share of exposure to Indians (have worked with some, and I help out in the C# forum) so I can pick up on the funny things said by non-native English speakers. :) The name Sharada Ulhas is a female name. I did a little research with the name: Sharada is a Hindi name with a meaning of "goddess of knowledge/learning", and Ulhas has a meaning of laughter and comedy. So it works out nicely. :)

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                            • J Judah Gabriel Himango

                              Heheh, good. I've had my share of exposure to Indians (have worked with some, and I help out in the C# forum) so I can pick up on the funny things said by non-native English speakers. :) The name Sharada Ulhas is a female name. I did a little research with the name: Sharada is a Hindi name with a meaning of "goddess of knowledge/learning", and Ulhas has a meaning of laughter and comedy. So it works out nicely. :)

                              Tech, life, family, faith: Give me a visit. I'm currently blogging about: And in this corner, the Party of Allah The apostle Paul, modernly speaking: Epistles of Paul Judah Himango

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                              Nish Nishant
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                              Judah Himango wrote:

                              The name Sharada Ulhas is a female name. I did a little research with the name: Sharada is a Hindi name with a meaning of "goddess of knowledge/learning", and Ulhas has a meaning of laughter and comedy. So it works out nicely.

                              Cool - so there was a good bit of research behind the joke. Impressive :-)

                              Regards, Nish


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                              • N Nish Nishant

                                Hey guys, Could you suggest the spec for a machine that'd run Vista Beta smoothly? Specifically the video card. We are trying to put together a machine for testing out Vista.

                                Regards, Nish


                                Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET (my blog)
                                Currently working on C++/CLI in Action for Manning Publications. Also visit the Ultimate Toolbox blog (New)

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                                Michael Dunn
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                                My Alienware Aurora m9700 is very nice (and they just dropped the price a couple hundred bucks). THere are still a couple hiccups running Vista b2 (sleep/suspend/hibernate don't always work, wired NIC doesn't work) but it's nothing that I can't work around until later builds of Vista fix them.

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                                  My Alienware Aurora m9700 is very nice (and they just dropped the price a couple hundred bucks). THere are still a couple hiccups running Vista b2 (sleep/suspend/hibernate don't always work, wired NIC doesn't work) but it's nothing that I can't work around until later builds of Vista fix them.

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                                  Nish Nishant
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                                  Thanks Mike. But isn't that a laptop? I was looking for a desktop.

                                  Regards, Nish


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                                  • N Nish Nishant

                                    Thanks Mike. But isn't that a laptop? I was looking for a desktop.

                                    Regards, Nish


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                                    Michael Dunn
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                                    Picky picky ;) But yes, it is a laptop with a mobile CPU.

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                                    • D David Knechtges

                                      If you don't care too much about the Aero Glass interface, the beta runs just fine under VMWare. VMWare server is free, and Workstation is not very expensive. We use the workstation version, so that we can do the snapshots, which are REALLY good for testing installs. David

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                                      Mike Bluett
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                                      Yes, it seemed to run fine for me under MS Virtual Machine 2005 with the exception that after the last reboot (during installation) it lost reference to my network card. Couldn't figure out how to get it back. Strange thing is the network card was available under Vista when it first ran (during installation). A subsequent reboot resulted in it's lost reference. Trying to force a driver install didn't work and it would not automatically determine that a network card was available. Works fine with XP Pro over top MS Virtual Machine 2005.

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                                      • J Judah Gabriel Himango

                                        Hi Nish I've got a Pentium 4 HT 2.8GHZ, 1GB RAM, ATI Radeon 9700 card, and it's been running Vista with no problems. I recently upgraded to 2 GB of RAM and hardly noticed a speed increase.

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                                        Mike Bluett
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                                        As I had a problem running Vista under MS Virtual Machine 2005, I created a 32 Meg partition (which also has Office 2007 installed with space to spare) and installed it there. I have a Pentium 4 2.6 Ghz (no HT), 1 Gig Ram, Nvidia GT6600 PCIe (128 Meg SDRAM), ASUS P5LD2 Deluxe Motherboard. Vista works great even with the Aero interface. -- modified at 14:13 Saturday 19th August, 2006

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                                        • N Nish Nishant

                                          Hey guys, Could you suggest the spec for a machine that'd run Vista Beta smoothly? Specifically the video card. We are trying to put together a machine for testing out Vista.

                                          Regards, Nish


                                          Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET (my blog)
                                          Currently working on C++/CLI in Action for Manning Publications. Also visit the Ultimate Toolbox blog (New)

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                                          Mike Bluett
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                                          I read an article sometime ago that stated there would be significant performance problems when using the Aero interface as there are no Video cards presently on the market that can handle multple applications simultaneously using the GPU. The Aero interface apparently makes heavy use of the GPU on your Video card. In this article, it was stated that Microsoft had initiated a request to all the video card manufacturers to produce a video card with this capability. I am running the Aero interface on an ASUS NVidia GT6600 and it seems to work fine with the exception that I have not tried any apps that make use of 3D rendering. I think this is where the problem might occur. If you do a search on the Net for "Aero" and "video performance" you may be able to find the same article. I also just read that Vista Beta 1 did not contain a 3D Aero interface and that this was to be added into Vista Beta 2 so maybe this is why I haven't experienced any performance problems. So, it might be advisable not to spend a lot of money on a video card quite yet and wait until these new cards are available. As well, some of the newer cards are starting to have physics processing in hardware which would be nice for gaming (although it only seems to work if the game takes advantage of this new hardware).

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