If you don't believe in me, you will go to hell [modified]
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Jeremy Falcon wrote:
"I contend that we are both atheists, I just believe in one less god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all other possible gods, then you will know why I dismiss yours." - Stephen F. Roberts
Nice quote :-)
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"We are all atheists about most of the gods that humanity has ever believed in. Some of us just go one god further." - Richard Dawkins :)
-- From the Makers of Futurama
Good stuff. :)
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VAIO Blue wrote:
but if you believe in me, no matter what, I will give you a ticket to heaven
does the devil believe in god ?
*grin* At risk of taking a troll seriously ( the original poster, I mean ), the Bible says that belief in God is no big deal, because even the devil believes.
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"Not everyone who says to Me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father who is in heaven will enter." - Matthew 7:21
"But when the Son of Man comes in His glory, and all the angels with Him, then He will sit on His glorious throne. 32 "All the nations will be gathered before Him; and He will separate them from one another, as the shepherd separates the sheep from the goats; 33 and He will put the sheep on His right, and the goats on the left. 34 "Then the King will say to those on His right, 'Come, you who are blessed of My Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world. 35 For I was hungry, and you gave Me something to eat; I was thirsty, and you gave Me something to drink; I was a stranger, and you invited Me in; 36 naked, and you clothed Me; I was sick, and you visited Me; I was in prison, and you came to Me.' 37 "Then the righteous will answer Him, 'Lord, when did we see You hungry, and feed You, or thirsty, and give You something to drink? 38 And when did we see You a stranger, and invite You in, or naked, and clothe You? 39 When did we see You sick, or in prison, and come to You?' 40 "The King will answer and say to them, 'Truly I say to you, to the extent that you did it to one of these brothers of Mine, even the least of them, you did it to Me.' 41"Then He will also say to those on His left, 'Depart from Me, accursed ones, into the eternal fire which has been prepared for the devil and his angels; 42 for I was hungry, and you gave Me nothing to eat; I was thirsty, and you gave Me nothing to drink; 43 I was a stranger, and you did not invite Me in; naked, and you did not clothe Me; sick, and in prison, and you did not visit Me.' 44 "Then they themselves also will answer, 'Lord, when did we see You hungry, or thirsty, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not take care of You?' 45 "Then He will answer them, 'Truly I say to you, to the extent that you did not do it to one of the least of these, you did not do it to Me.' 46 "These will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life." - Matthew 25:31-46
Yeah, it's amusing to me that anti Christian statements are allowed to be totally ignorant, and no-one cares. Any pro Christian statement is presupposed to be ignorant, on the other hand.
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*grin* At risk of taking a troll seriously ( the original poster, I mean ), the Bible says that belief in God is no big deal, because even the devil believes.
Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog
according to the OP, that means the devil has a guaranteed ticket to heaven. he didn't specify that you had to believe anything in particular about god, only in his mere existence.
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according to the OP, that means the devil has a guaranteed ticket to heaven. he didn't specify that you had to believe anything in particular about god, only in his mere existence.
Yeah, that's my point. The OP is wrong.
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There is only one way to salvation (i.e., not damnation) and that is through JC. Of course, depending on what sect you belong to, if you don't do it right, you're still not gonna get any salvation!
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Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote:
There is only one way to salvation (i.e., not damnation) and that is through JC. Of course, depending on what sect you belong to, if you don't do it right, you're still not gonna get any salvation!
You know, the sponsored links in gmail are as amusing as this post. :) Marc
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Dude, come on. Totally unnecessary. This isn't an online church.
thealj wrote:
This isn't an online church.
It ain't an online ghouls convention either, yet every time i load this forum there's one more post linking to an article on death and destruction.
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"I contend that we are both atheists, I just believe in one less god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all other possible gods, then you will know why I dismiss yours." - Stephen F. Roberts
Jeremy Falcon The mind is like a parachute. It works best when it is open. - Colin Angus Mackay (2006-08-18)
Pithy quotes not withstanding, people believe / refuse to believe all kinds of things, and for all sorts of reasons. Coming to grips with my reasons for not buying into Hinduism doesn't really help me much in understanding the gal whose folks took her to church every Sunday and beat the crap out of her every Monday.
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There is only one way to salvation (i.e., not damnation) and that is through JC. Of course, depending on what sect you belong to, if you don't do it right, you're still not gonna get any salvation!
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Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote:
Of course, depending on what sect you belong to, if you don't do it right, you're still not gonna get any salvation!
I think the proper way of stating that would be there are so many variations of sects that you even through JC you are guarenteed to be led astray. They can't all be right, but the only thing they agree on completely is that you are damned to Hell if you listen to anyone else. Therefore by commonality of teaching, everyone is damned to Hell.
_________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
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J. Dunlap wrote:
How can we hope to live in harmony with each other if we don't come to understand each other's point of view?
That's the sad part. Most people don't want to understand another's view, they want other people to believe their view. Until that changes, it'll always be the case.
Jeremy Falcon The mind is like a parachute. It works best when it is open. - Colin Angus Mackay (2006-08-18)
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Harald Krause wrote:
We all go to hell because every religion states that only its members have a chance to get into heaven. Since there are a lot of different religions.........
I bet heaven and hell are partitioned into separate provinces - one for each religion. And there's probably some unmarked territory outside the hell/heaven regions for us atheists. :rolleyes:
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I bet heaven and hell are partitioned into separate provinces - one for each religion. And there's probably some unmarked territory outside the hell/heaven regions for us atheists.
I guess it's all a matter of having kernel-mode access, or if (like the latest VxWorks) an RTP is blocked off, or if they have implemented some sort of brick-wall partitioning... :~
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Harald Krause wrote:
We all go to hell because every religion states that only its members have a chance to get into heaven. Since there are a lot of different religions.........
That sounds alot like the santa claus fairy tale, parents telling their kids that santa claus will only give christmas presents to children who believe in him.
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That sounds alot like the santa claus fairy tale, parents telling their kids that santa claus will only give christmas presents to children who believe in him.
Isn't it amazing that nearly all people give up believing in Santa Claus by the time they're teenagers yet refuse to place god in the same category even when the argument and evidence is the same?
The evolution of the human genome is too important to be left to chance.
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but if you believe in me, no matter what, I will give you a ticket to heaven. Your truly, God -- moved at 12:40 Saturday 19th August, 2006
VAIO Blue wrote:
but if you believe in me, no matter what, I will give you a ticket to heaven.
And if you send me a million dollars, I'll send you a lottery ticket that could be worth real money. ;P
The evolution of the human genome is too important to be left to chance.
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We all go to hell because every religion states that only its members have a chance to get into heaven. Since there are a lot of different religions......... -- modified at 11:34 Saturday 19th August, 2006
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Well we muslims do belivers that true followers of ancient prophets will go in heaven and those who opposed their teachings will not.The followers of Noah(AS),Solomon(AS),Abraham(AS) who acted upon what these respective prophets ordered will definately go into heaven and world doesn't consider these guys as "MUSLIM".Islam doesnt promote theory of "Jesus take away all sins" as its very fictitiius.If i steal something in this world or i disobey rules of God and disobey my parents,murder a human than offcouse I should be ready to face punishment by the creator. Yes there are people in all religions including islam who says the main title of the post but they are not credible at all.
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*grin* At risk of taking a troll seriously ( the original poster, I mean ), the Bible says that belief in God is no big deal, because even the devil believes.
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Christian Graus wrote:
the Bible says that belief in God is no big deal, because even the devil believes.
everyone knows CG's religion.I as muslim second his words.All abrahamic faiths belives that devil does believe in God.In this way a devil is more sensible than atheist who are so lamely fell in love with alternative theories. p.s:in Quran the devil was called as IBLESS.I'm not sure how was he called in bible.
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Yeah, that's my point. The OP is wrong.
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Christian Graus wrote:
The OP
Did you mean OT?if no then wht is OP?
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Well we muslims do belivers that true followers of ancient prophets will go in heaven and those who opposed their teachings will not.The followers of Noah(AS),Solomon(AS),Abraham(AS) who acted upon what these respective prophets ordered will definately go into heaven and world doesn't consider these guys as "MUSLIM".Islam doesnt promote theory of "Jesus take away all sins" as its very fictitiius.If i steal something in this world or i disobey rules of God and disobey my parents,murder a human than offcouse I should be ready to face punishment by the creator. Yes there are people in all religions including islam who says the main title of the post but they are not credible at all.
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Adnan Siddiqi wrote:
If i steal something in this world or i disobey rules of God and disobey my parents,murder a human than offcouse I should be ready to face punishment by the creator.
Do you believe this strongly:~ .If so where this creator lives. I failed to understand these concept.If somebody comes up with some rationales,I am ready to accept it. BTW,I am not an aethist. Why should we unnecessarily call his wrath,if he exists somewhere :).
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Well we muslims do belivers that true followers of ancient prophets will go in heaven and those who opposed their teachings will not.The followers of Noah(AS),Solomon(AS),Abraham(AS) who acted upon what these respective prophets ordered will definately go into heaven and world doesn't consider these guys as "MUSLIM".Islam doesnt promote theory of "Jesus take away all sins" as its very fictitiius.If i steal something in this world or i disobey rules of God and disobey my parents,murder a human than offcouse I should be ready to face punishment by the creator. Yes there are people in all religions including islam who says the main title of the post but they are not credible at all.
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Think about it...The God who created everything from the single cell organism to the entire galaxy is bothered about judging us and deciding on whether to send us to heaven or hell? Since it was He/She who created us, cant we just be programmed to do *good* all the time? Dont you feel that there is a higher purpose on why all of us are here and it is just that mankind has not yet discovered what it is??
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Think about it...The God who created everything from the single cell organism to the entire galaxy is bothered about judging us and deciding on whether to send us to heaven or hell? Since it was He/She who created us, cant we just be programmed to do *good* all the time? Dont you feel that there is a higher purpose on why all of us are here and it is just that mankind has not yet discovered what it is??
retZ wrote:
cant we just be programmed to do *good* all the time?
point.. Perhaps,There may be some traces of a sadist in him(her/it) who likes to punish his creatures.I always wondered ,if it's like that what a boring life god would have been leading,with these monotonous jobs. Also its god who created Satan.So clearly there was bad intensions in him to cheat his creatures.. All these faiths are like balloon .If somebody started examining these with rationales ,soon it will be broken.