If you don't believe in me, you will go to hell [modified]
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Well we muslims do belivers that true followers of ancient prophets will go in heaven and those who opposed their teachings will not.The followers of Noah(AS),Solomon(AS),Abraham(AS) who acted upon what these respective prophets ordered will definately go into heaven and world doesn't consider these guys as "MUSLIM".Islam doesnt promote theory of "Jesus take away all sins" as its very fictitiius.If i steal something in this world or i disobey rules of God and disobey my parents,murder a human than offcouse I should be ready to face punishment by the creator. Yes there are people in all religions including islam who says the main title of the post but they are not credible at all.
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Adnan Siddiqi wrote:
If i steal something in this world or i disobey rules of God and disobey my parents,murder a human than offcouse I should be ready to face punishment by the creator.
Do you believe this strongly:~ .If so where this creator lives. I failed to understand these concept.If somebody comes up with some rationales,I am ready to accept it. BTW,I am not an aethist. Why should we unnecessarily call his wrath,if he exists somewhere :).
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Well we muslims do belivers that true followers of ancient prophets will go in heaven and those who opposed their teachings will not.The followers of Noah(AS),Solomon(AS),Abraham(AS) who acted upon what these respective prophets ordered will definately go into heaven and world doesn't consider these guys as "MUSLIM".Islam doesnt promote theory of "Jesus take away all sins" as its very fictitiius.If i steal something in this world or i disobey rules of God and disobey my parents,murder a human than offcouse I should be ready to face punishment by the creator. Yes there are people in all religions including islam who says the main title of the post but they are not credible at all.
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Think about it...The God who created everything from the single cell organism to the entire galaxy is bothered about judging us and deciding on whether to send us to heaven or hell? Since it was He/She who created us, cant we just be programmed to do *good* all the time? Dont you feel that there is a higher purpose on why all of us are here and it is just that mankind has not yet discovered what it is??
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Think about it...The God who created everything from the single cell organism to the entire galaxy is bothered about judging us and deciding on whether to send us to heaven or hell? Since it was He/She who created us, cant we just be programmed to do *good* all the time? Dont you feel that there is a higher purpose on why all of us are here and it is just that mankind has not yet discovered what it is??
retZ wrote:
cant we just be programmed to do *good* all the time?
point.. Perhaps,There may be some traces of a sadist in him(her/it) who likes to punish his creatures.I always wondered ,if it's like that what a boring life god would have been leading,with these monotonous jobs. Also its god who created Satan.So clearly there was bad intensions in him to cheat his creatures.. All these faiths are like balloon .If somebody started examining these with rationales ,soon it will be broken.
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Christian Graus wrote:
the Bible says that belief in God is no big deal, because even the devil believes.
everyone knows CG's religion.I as muslim second his words.All abrahamic faiths belives that devil does believe in God.In this way a devil is more sensible than atheist who are so lamely fell in love with alternative theories. p.s:in Quran the devil was called as IBLESS.I'm not sure how was he called in bible.
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Adnan Siddiqi wrote:
All abrahamic faiths belives that devil does believe in God.
If I'm not mistaken, judaism doesn't recognize Satan as modern day christianity and islam does. If my memoryt serves me right, there is no reference to Satan in the torah. What exists are christian interpretations of Samael and Lucifer (mentioned in the torah).
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Well we muslims do belivers that true followers of ancient prophets will go in heaven and those who opposed their teachings will not.The followers of Noah(AS),Solomon(AS),Abraham(AS) who acted upon what these respective prophets ordered will definately go into heaven and world doesn't consider these guys as "MUSLIM".Islam doesnt promote theory of "Jesus take away all sins" as its very fictitiius.If i steal something in this world or i disobey rules of God and disobey my parents,murder a human than offcouse I should be ready to face punishment by the creator. Yes there are people in all religions including islam who says the main title of the post but they are not credible at all.
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Adnan Siddiqi wrote:
If i steal something in this world or i disobey rules of God and disobey my parents,murder a human than offcouse I should be ready to face punishment by the creator.
Of course. Therein is the reason for joy that arises out of the hope for mercy.
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Well we muslims do belivers that true followers of ancient prophets will go in heaven and those who opposed their teachings will not.The followers of Noah(AS),Solomon(AS),Abraham(AS) who acted upon what these respective prophets ordered will definately go into heaven and world doesn't consider these guys as "MUSLIM".Islam doesnt promote theory of "Jesus take away all sins" as its very fictitiius.If i steal something in this world or i disobey rules of God and disobey my parents,murder a human than offcouse I should be ready to face punishment by the creator. Yes there are people in all religions including islam who says the main title of the post but they are not credible at all.
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Adnan Siddiqi wrote:
murder a human than offcouse I should be ready to face punishment by the creator
Yes, forced to service all those virgins for eternity. Oh, you probably meant human as in other muslims and not the infidel general population of the planet.
The evolution of the human genome is too important to be left to chance.
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Christian Graus wrote:
the Bible says that belief in God is no big deal, because even the devil believes.
everyone knows CG's religion.I as muslim second his words.All abrahamic faiths belives that devil does believe in God.In this way a devil is more sensible than atheist who are so lamely fell in love with alternative theories. p.s:in Quran the devil was called as IBLESS.I'm not sure how was he called in bible.
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Adnan Siddiqi wrote:
In this way a devil is more sensible than atheist who are so lamely fell in love with alternative theories.
Lame is believing you know it all because you read one book.
The evolution of the human genome is too important to be left to chance.
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Yeah, it's amusing to me that anti Christian statements are allowed to be totally ignorant, and no-one cares. Any pro Christian statement is presupposed to be ignorant, on the other hand.
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Yep, you've got my 5 for that one! I usually stay out of these debates for exactly that reason. Coincidentally, I've just finished watching Dogma[^]. If that isn't a hint that God has quite a sense of humour, I don't know what is...
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Christian Graus wrote:
The OP
Did you mean OT?if no then wht is OP?
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"Not everyone who says to Me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father who is in heaven will enter." - Matthew 7:21
"But when the Son of Man comes in His glory, and all the angels with Him, then He will sit on His glorious throne. 32 "All the nations will be gathered before Him; and He will separate them from one another, as the shepherd separates the sheep from the goats; 33 and He will put the sheep on His right, and the goats on the left. 34 "Then the King will say to those on His right, 'Come, you who are blessed of My Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world. 35 For I was hungry, and you gave Me something to eat; I was thirsty, and you gave Me something to drink; I was a stranger, and you invited Me in; 36 naked, and you clothed Me; I was sick, and you visited Me; I was in prison, and you came to Me.' 37 "Then the righteous will answer Him, 'Lord, when did we see You hungry, and feed You, or thirsty, and give You something to drink? 38 And when did we see You a stranger, and invite You in, or naked, and clothe You? 39 When did we see You sick, or in prison, and come to You?' 40 "The King will answer and say to them, 'Truly I say to you, to the extent that you did it to one of these brothers of Mine, even the least of them, you did it to Me.' 41"Then He will also say to those on His left, 'Depart from Me, accursed ones, into the eternal fire which has been prepared for the devil and his angels; 42 for I was hungry, and you gave Me nothing to eat; I was thirsty, and you gave Me nothing to drink; 43 I was a stranger, and you did not invite Me in; naked, and you did not clothe Me; sick, and in prison, and you did not visit Me.' 44 "Then they themselves also will answer, 'Lord, when did we see You hungry, or thirsty, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not take care of You?' 45 "Then He will answer them, 'Truly I say to you, to the extent that you did not do it to one of the least of these, you did not do it to Me.' 46 "These will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life." - Matthew 25:31-46
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Be excellent to each other.
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