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If you don't believe in me, you will go to hell [modified]

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  • N Nish Nishant

    Harald Krause wrote:

    We all go to hell because every religion states that only its members have a chance to get into heaven. Since there are a lot of different religions.........

    I bet heaven and hell are partitioned into separate provinces - one for each religion. And there's probably some unmarked territory outside the hell/heaven regions for us atheists. :rolleyes:

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    Nishant Sivakumar wrote:

    I bet heaven and hell are partitioned into separate provinces - one for each religion. And there's probably some unmarked territory outside the hell/heaven regions for us atheists.

    I guess it's all a matter of having kernel-mode access, or if (like the latest VxWorks) an RTP is blocked off, or if they have implemented some sort of brick-wall partitioning... :~

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      Harald Krause wrote:

      We all go to hell because every religion states that only its members have a chance to get into heaven. Since there are a lot of different religions.........

      That sounds alot like the santa claus fairy tale, parents telling their kids that santa claus will only give christmas presents to children who believe in him.

      Definition of 'Liberal': A person who is so open minded that their brains have fallen out.

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      Score: 1.0 (3 votes). wrote:

      That sounds alot like the santa claus fairy tale, parents telling their kids that santa claus will only give christmas presents to children who believe in him.

      Isn't it amazing that nearly all people give up believing in Santa Claus by the time they're teenagers yet refuse to place god in the same category even when the argument and evidence is the same?

      The evolution of the human genome is too important to be left to chance.

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      • V VAIO Blue

        but if you believe in me, no matter what, I will give you a ticket to heaven. Your truly, God -- moved at 12:40 Saturday 19th August, 2006

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        VAIO Blue wrote:

        but if you believe in me, no matter what, I will give you a ticket to heaven.

        And if you send me a million dollars, I'll send you a lottery ticket that could be worth real money. ;P

        The evolution of the human genome is too important to be left to chance.

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        • H Harald Krause

          We all go to hell because every religion states that only its members have a chance to get into heaven. Since there are a lot of different religions......... -- modified at 11:34 Saturday 19th August, 2006

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          Adnan Siddiqi
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          Well we muslims do belivers that true followers of ancient prophets will go in heaven and those who opposed their teachings will not.The followers of Noah(AS),Solomon(AS),Abraham(AS) who acted upon what these respective prophets ordered will definately go into heaven and world doesn't consider these guys as "MUSLIM".Islam doesnt promote theory of "Jesus take away all sins" as its very fictitiius.If i steal something in this world or i disobey rules of God and disobey my parents,murder a human than offcouse I should be ready to face punishment by the creator. Yes there are people in all religions including islam who says the main title of the post but they are not credible at all.

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          • C Christian Graus

            *grin* At risk of taking a troll seriously ( the original poster, I mean ), the Bible says that belief in God is no big deal, because even the devil believes.

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            Adnan Siddiqi
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            Christian Graus wrote:

            the Bible says that belief in God is no big deal, because even the devil believes.

            everyone knows CG's religion.I as muslim second his words.All abrahamic faiths belives that devil does believe in God.In this way a devil is more sensible than atheist who are so lamely fell in love with alternative theories. p.s:in Quran the devil was called as IBLESS.I'm not sure how was he called in bible.

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            • C Christian Graus

              Yeah, that's my point. The OP is wrong.

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              Adnan Siddiqi
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              Christian Graus wrote:

              The OP

              Did you mean OT?if no then wht is OP?

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              • A Adnan Siddiqi

                Well we muslims do belivers that true followers of ancient prophets will go in heaven and those who opposed their teachings will not.The followers of Noah(AS),Solomon(AS),Abraham(AS) who acted upon what these respective prophets ordered will definately go into heaven and world doesn't consider these guys as "MUSLIM".Islam doesnt promote theory of "Jesus take away all sins" as its very fictitiius.If i steal something in this world or i disobey rules of God and disobey my parents,murder a human than offcouse I should be ready to face punishment by the creator. Yes there are people in all religions including islam who says the main title of the post but they are not credible at all.

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                jith iii
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                Adnan Siddiqi wrote:

                If i steal something in this world or i disobey rules of God and disobey my parents,murder a human than offcouse I should be ready to face punishment by the creator.

                Do you believe this strongly:~ .If so where this creator lives. I failed to understand these concept.If somebody comes up with some rationales,I am ready to accept it. BTW,I am not an aethist. Why should we unnecessarily call his wrath,if he exists somewhere :).

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                • A Adnan Siddiqi

                  Well we muslims do belivers that true followers of ancient prophets will go in heaven and those who opposed their teachings will not.The followers of Noah(AS),Solomon(AS),Abraham(AS) who acted upon what these respective prophets ordered will definately go into heaven and world doesn't consider these guys as "MUSLIM".Islam doesnt promote theory of "Jesus take away all sins" as its very fictitiius.If i steal something in this world or i disobey rules of God and disobey my parents,murder a human than offcouse I should be ready to face punishment by the creator. Yes there are people in all religions including islam who says the main title of the post but they are not credible at all.

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                  Think about it...The God who created everything from the single cell organism to the entire galaxy is bothered about judging us and deciding on whether to send us to heaven or hell? Since it was He/She who created us, cant we just be programmed to do *good* all the time? Dont you feel that there is a higher purpose on why all of us are here and it is just that mankind has not yet discovered what it is??

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                    Think about it...The God who created everything from the single cell organism to the entire galaxy is bothered about judging us and deciding on whether to send us to heaven or hell? Since it was He/She who created us, cant we just be programmed to do *good* all the time? Dont you feel that there is a higher purpose on why all of us are here and it is just that mankind has not yet discovered what it is??

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                    retZ wrote:

                    cant we just be programmed to do *good* all the time?

                    point.. Perhaps,There may be some traces of a sadist in him(her/it) who likes to punish his creatures.I always wondered ,if it's like that what a boring life god would have been leading,with these monotonous jobs. Also its god who created Satan.So clearly there was bad intensions in him to cheat his creatures.. All these faiths are like balloon .If somebody started examining these with rationales ,soon it will be broken.

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                    • A Adnan Siddiqi

                      Christian Graus wrote:

                      the Bible says that belief in God is no big deal, because even the devil believes.

                      everyone knows CG's religion.I as muslim second his words.All abrahamic faiths belives that devil does believe in God.In this way a devil is more sensible than atheist who are so lamely fell in love with alternative theories. p.s:in Quran the devil was called as IBLESS.I'm not sure how was he called in bible.

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                      Jorgen Sigvardsson
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                      Adnan Siddiqi wrote:

                      All abrahamic faiths belives that devil does believe in God.

                      If I'm not mistaken, judaism doesn't recognize Satan as modern day christianity and islam does. If my memoryt serves me right, there is no reference to Satan in the torah. What exists are christian interpretations of Samael and Lucifer (mentioned in the torah).

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                      • A Adnan Siddiqi

                        Well we muslims do belivers that true followers of ancient prophets will go in heaven and those who opposed their teachings will not.The followers of Noah(AS),Solomon(AS),Abraham(AS) who acted upon what these respective prophets ordered will definately go into heaven and world doesn't consider these guys as "MUSLIM".Islam doesnt promote theory of "Jesus take away all sins" as its very fictitiius.If i steal something in this world or i disobey rules of God and disobey my parents,murder a human than offcouse I should be ready to face punishment by the creator. Yes there are people in all religions including islam who says the main title of the post but they are not credible at all.

                        Oh Fisticuffs, I Need Your Approval For I Am Misguided Without Your Awesome Insight Please Validate My Existence With You're Internet Powers By Pumpkinhead, Age 15 or something

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                        Adnan Siddiqi wrote:

                        If i steal something in this world or i disobey rules of God and disobey my parents,murder a human than offcouse I should be ready to face punishment by the creator.

                        Of course. Therein is the reason for joy that arises out of the hope for mercy.

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                        • A Adnan Siddiqi

                          Well we muslims do belivers that true followers of ancient prophets will go in heaven and those who opposed their teachings will not.The followers of Noah(AS),Solomon(AS),Abraham(AS) who acted upon what these respective prophets ordered will definately go into heaven and world doesn't consider these guys as "MUSLIM".Islam doesnt promote theory of "Jesus take away all sins" as its very fictitiius.If i steal something in this world or i disobey rules of God and disobey my parents,murder a human than offcouse I should be ready to face punishment by the creator. Yes there are people in all religions including islam who says the main title of the post but they are not credible at all.

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                          Tim Craig
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                          Adnan Siddiqi wrote:

                          murder a human than offcouse I should be ready to face punishment by the creator

                          Yes, forced to service all those virgins for eternity. Oh, you probably meant human as in other muslims and not the infidel general population of the planet.

                          The evolution of the human genome is too important to be left to chance.

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                          • A Adnan Siddiqi

                            Christian Graus wrote:

                            the Bible says that belief in God is no big deal, because even the devil believes.

                            everyone knows CG's religion.I as muslim second his words.All abrahamic faiths belives that devil does believe in God.In this way a devil is more sensible than atheist who are so lamely fell in love with alternative theories. p.s:in Quran the devil was called as IBLESS.I'm not sure how was he called in bible.

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                            Tim Craig
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                            Adnan Siddiqi wrote:

                            In this way a devil is more sensible than atheist who are so lamely fell in love with alternative theories.

                            Lame is believing you know it all because you read one book.

                            The evolution of the human genome is too important to be left to chance.

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                            • C Christian Graus

                              Yeah, it's amusing to me that anti Christian statements are allowed to be totally ignorant, and no-one cares. Any pro Christian statement is presupposed to be ignorant, on the other hand.

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                              Anna Jayne Metcalfe
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                              Yep, you've got my 5 for that one! I usually stay out of these debates for exactly that reason. Coincidentally, I've just finished watching Dogma[^]. If that isn't a hint that God has quite a sense of humour, I don't know what is...

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                              • A Adnan Siddiqi

                                Christian Graus wrote:

                                The OP

                                Did you mean OT?if no then wht is OP?

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                                Christian Graus
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                                Original Poster

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                                • J J Dunlap

                                  "Not everyone who says to Me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father who is in heaven will enter." - Matthew 7:21

                                  "But when the Son of Man comes in His glory, and all the angels with Him, then He will sit on His glorious throne. 32 "All the nations will be gathered before Him; and He will separate them from one another, as the shepherd separates the sheep from the goats; 33 and He will put the sheep on His right, and the goats on the left. 34 "Then the King will say to those on His right, 'Come, you who are blessed of My Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world. 35 For I was hungry, and you gave Me something to eat; I was thirsty, and you gave Me something to drink; I was a stranger, and you invited Me in; 36 naked, and you clothed Me; I was sick, and you visited Me; I was in prison, and you came to Me.' 37 "Then the righteous will answer Him, 'Lord, when did we see You hungry, and feed You, or thirsty, and give You something to drink? 38 And when did we see You a stranger, and invite You in, or naked, and clothe You? 39 When did we see You sick, or in prison, and come to You?' 40 "The King will answer and say to them, 'Truly I say to you, to the extent that you did it to one of these brothers of Mine, even the least of them, you did it to Me.' 41"Then He will also say to those on His left, 'Depart from Me, accursed ones, into the eternal fire which has been prepared for the devil and his angels; 42 for I was hungry, and you gave Me nothing to eat; I was thirsty, and you gave Me nothing to drink; 43 I was a stranger, and you did not invite Me in; naked, and you did not clothe Me; sick, and in prison, and you did not visit Me.' 44 "Then they themselves also will answer, 'Lord, when did we see You hungry, or thirsty, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not take care of You?' 45 "Then He will answer them, 'Truly I say to you, to the extent that you did not do it to one of the least of these, you did not do it to Me.' 46 "These will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life." - Matthew 25:31-46

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                                  Chris Maunder
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                                  Bill[^] summed it up much better:

                                  Be excellent to each other.

                                  cheers, Chris Maunder

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