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  • L Lost User

    I think that makes it worse ;)

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    Tad McClellan
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    No curly brackets though.

    E=mc2 -> BOOM

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      Yeah, this is really a programming question, sort of :~ What I really hate is typing curly braces in languages like C#/C++ etc. I use a german keyboard layout and typing { and } involes using a weird combination, Alt+Gr+7 for { and Alt+Gr+0 for } Not only does this disturb the typing flow, but the combination is also really unhandy and error prone, especially when switching keybords often (laptop, desktop, work etc). What are your solutions to this problem? :) regards

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      peterchen
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      The typical solution indeed is to use an US keyboard layout (+ a US keyboard if available) I'm quite ok with the german keyboard, although it does put notable strain on my hands, so I might try that, too.


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      • L Lost User

        Yeah, this is really a programming question, sort of :~ What I really hate is typing curly braces in languages like C#/C++ etc. I use a german keyboard layout and typing { and } involes using a weird combination, Alt+Gr+7 for { and Alt+Gr+0 for } Not only does this disturb the typing flow, but the combination is also really unhandy and error prone, especially when switching keybords often (laptop, desktop, work etc). What are your solutions to this problem? :) regards

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        Michael Dunn
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        Use ??< and ??> instead? ;)

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        • L Lost User

          Yeah, this is really a programming question, sort of :~ What I really hate is typing curly braces in languages like C#/C++ etc. I use a german keyboard layout and typing { and } involes using a weird combination, Alt+Gr+7 for { and Alt+Gr+0 for } Not only does this disturb the typing flow, but the combination is also really unhandy and error prone, especially when switching keybords often (laptop, desktop, work etc). What are your solutions to this problem? :) regards

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          Duncan Edwards Jones
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          The long term solution is to program in VB.Net - enjoy.;)

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          • L Lost User

            Yeah, this is really a programming question, sort of :~ What I really hate is typing curly braces in languages like C#/C++ etc. I use a german keyboard layout and typing { and } involes using a weird combination, Alt+Gr+7 for { and Alt+Gr+0 for } Not only does this disturb the typing flow, but the combination is also really unhandy and error prone, especially when switching keybords often (laptop, desktop, work etc). What are your solutions to this problem? :) regards

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            Jeremy Falcon
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            Greeeg wrote:

            What are your solutions to this problem?

            It's obvious that most people that have replied have been in living in .NET land too long. :laugh: It's simple, use a macro. For instance...

            #define BO {
            #define BC }

            int main(int argc, char *argv[])
            BO
            return 0;
            BC

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            • J Jeremy Falcon

              Greeeg wrote:

              What are your solutions to this problem?

              It's obvious that most people that have replied have been in living in .NET land too long. :laugh: It's simple, use a macro. For instance...

              #define BO {
              #define BC }

              int main(int argc, char *argv[])
              BO
              return 0;
              BC

              Jeremy Falcon The mind is like a parachute. It works best when it is open. - Colin Angus Mackay (2006-08-18)

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              Lost User
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              This reminds me of Better C :-D

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              • M malockin

                How about writing an add-in that completes the braces, so that you only have to type the left brace. That'd save you 50% typing, and you won't have to change keyboards or anything. -- Nicola

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                Lost User
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                My idea is to press Shift+Space and then "{ \newline }" would be insterted at the cursor position. How could I do that, via Snippet, Macro, Addin?

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                • L Lost User

                  This reminds me of Better C :-D

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                  Jeremy Falcon
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                  Yeah I remember that one. A classic example of macro abuse.

                  Jeremy Falcon The mind is like a parachute. It works best when it is open. - Colin Angus Mackay (2006-08-18)

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                  • J Jeremy Falcon

                    Greeeg wrote:

                    What are your solutions to this problem?

                    It's obvious that most people that have replied have been in living in .NET land too long. :laugh: It's simple, use a macro. For instance...

                    #define BO {
                    #define BC }

                    int main(int argc, char *argv[])
                    BO
                    return 0;
                    BC

                    Jeremy Falcon The mind is like a parachute. It works best when it is open. - Colin Angus Mackay (2006-08-18)

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                    Richard Andrew x64
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                    Now THAT's using your knoggin!

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                    • M Michael Dunn

                      Use ??< and ??> instead? ;)

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                      Shog9 0
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                      :doh:

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                      • Richard Andrew x64R Richard Andrew x64

                        Now THAT's using your knoggin!

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                        Jeremy Falcon
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                        Yeah, I still think macros are great as long as they aren't abused.

                        Jeremy Falcon The mind is like a parachute. It works best when it is open. - Colin Angus Mackay (2006-08-18)

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                        • T Tad McClellan

                          Use VB.net. ;)

                          E=mc2 -> BOOM

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                          Gary R Wheeler
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                            The long term solution is to program in VB.Net - enjoy.;)

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                            Gary R Wheeler
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                            • S Shog9 0

                              Greeeg wrote:

                              What are your solutions to this problem?

                              I carefully avoid ever programming while using a german keyboard layout. You might think this would be fairly trivial, considering i'm not living in Germany, nor do i work with any german-language programmers. You'd be right.

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                              Ryan Binns
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                              Shog9 wrote:

                              I carefully avoid ever programming while using a german keyboard layout. You might think this would be fairly trivial, considering i'm not living in Germany, nor do i work with any german-language programmers. You'd be right.

                              Yes, thankyou for that remarkable insight :rolleyes:

                              Ryan

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                              • J Jeremy Falcon

                                Yeah, I still think macros are great as long as they aren't abused.

                                Jeremy Falcon The mind is like a parachute. It works best when it is open. - Colin Angus Mackay (2006-08-18)

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                                Ryan Binns
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                                Jeremy Falcon wrote:

                                Yeah, I still think macros are great as long as they aren't abused.

                                You don't consider your example macro abuse? :omg:

                                Ryan

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                                  Jeremy Falcon wrote:

                                  Yeah, I still think macros are great as long as they aren't abused.

                                  You don't consider your example macro abuse? :omg:

                                  Ryan

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                                  Jeremy Falcon
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                                  Ryan Binns wrote:

                                  You don't consider your example macro abuse?

                                  No I don't. It's not so much what you do with them that's abusive, but more so how much you rely on them and the intent that is. If there's no clean/quick/portable way to achieve the bracket replacement that he's trying to do so he can program more effeciently, but yet macros offer a simple solution then it's not abusive. OTOH if he's trying to make Pascal syntax out of C/C++ just because it's neato, then that's very abusive (and I've seen people attempt this).

                                  Jeremy Falcon The mind is like a parachute. It works best when it is open. - Colin Angus Mackay (2006-08-18)

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                                  • L Lost User

                                    My idea is to press Shift+Space and then "{ \newline }" would be insterted at the cursor position. How could I do that, via Snippet, Macro, Addin?

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                                    S Douglas
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                                    Greeeg wrote:

                                    Macro

                                    Thats pretty easy,

                                    Sub CurlyBrackets()
                                        Dim sCurly As String
                                        sCurly = "{ " & vbNewLine & vbNewLine & " }"
                                        ActiveDocument.Selection.Text = sCurly
                                    End Sub
                                    

                                    Just map that to a key combo and away you go.


                                    I'd love to help, but unfortunatley I have prior commitments monitoring the length of my grass. :Andrew Bleakley:

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                                      Ryan Binns wrote:

                                      You don't consider your example macro abuse?

                                      No I don't. It's not so much what you do with them that's abusive, but more so how much you rely on them and the intent that is. If there's no clean/quick/portable way to achieve the bracket replacement that he's trying to do so he can program more effeciently, but yet macros offer a simple solution then it's not abusive. OTOH if he's trying to make Pascal syntax out of C/C++ just because it's neato, then that's very abusive (and I've seen people attempt this).

                                      Jeremy Falcon The mind is like a parachute. It works best when it is open. - Colin Angus Mackay (2006-08-18)

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                                      S Douglas
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                                      Jeremy Falcon wrote:

                                      If there's no clean/quick/portable way to achieve the bracket replacement that he's trying to do so he can program more effeciently, but yet macros offer a simple solution then it's not abusive.

                                      There is a way, use a VS macro, they are easy to create (heck VS has a macro recorder) and assign it to a key combo. Done, no worries about someone else looking at your code wondering WTF is BO & BC for.


                                      I'd love to help, but unfortunatley I have prior commitments monitoring the length of my grass. :Andrew Bleakley:

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                                        Jeremy Falcon wrote:

                                        If there's no clean/quick/portable way to achieve the bracket replacement that he's trying to do so he can program more effeciently, but yet macros offer a simple solution then it's not abusive.

                                        There is a way, use a VS macro, they are easy to create (heck VS has a macro recorder) and assign it to a key combo. Done, no worries about someone else looking at your code wondering WTF is BO & BC for.


                                        I'd love to help, but unfortunatley I have prior commitments monitoring the length of my grass. :Andrew Bleakley:

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                                        Jeremy Falcon
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                                        S Douglas wrote:

                                        There is a way, use a VS macro

                                        If VS is your only environment then yeah I totally agree. Go with that instead.

                                        Jeremy Falcon The mind is like a parachute. It works best when it is open. - Colin Angus Mackay (2006-08-18)

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                                        • L Lost User

                                          Yeah, this is really a programming question, sort of :~ What I really hate is typing curly braces in languages like C#/C++ etc. I use a german keyboard layout and typing { and } involes using a weird combination, Alt+Gr+7 for { and Alt+Gr+0 for } Not only does this disturb the typing flow, but the combination is also really unhandy and error prone, especially when switching keybords often (laptop, desktop, work etc). What are your solutions to this problem? :) regards

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                                          Anders Molin
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                                          I use a Danish keyboard and kinda have the same problem. I solved it by making a simple macro in VS, so when I press ctrl-æ VS change the line, insert a { change the line again and insert a } and move the caret to be right after the {. Works great :)

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