You Americans are obsessed with guns. What is it, Penis envy?
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Richard A. Abbott wrote:
I suppose you will be lumping together all those "illegal" Mexicans and blaming them for all the ills of you Americans
Did he say anything about the illegal (notice i didnt use quotation marks because they ARE here illegaly) mexicans, you idiot? Several times a year here in Arkansas there will be an news story about a meth "lab" that has been busted. Meth makes makes people into strange zombie-like creatures that are willing to do anything to get their drugs. And most of the time it doesnt have anything to do with any particular racial group.
A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity. - Sigmund Freud
Considering the comments made by Espeir and others (including your good self)in earlier threads over the months, illegal Mexican seem to take a lot of blame for what appears to trouble you Americans, or have I read those postings incorrectly. For all I know, those meth drinking louts could easily fall within the context of the paragraph immediately above. Sorry if you were offended.
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Richard A. Abbott wrote:
I suppose you will be lumping together all those "illegal" Mexicans and blaming them for all the ills of you Americans :~
Did i say anything about Mexicans, illegal or otherwise? I sure don't remember bringing 'em up. I guess i must've gone back and edited them out of my post, just to make your reply look stupid. How underhanded of me.... :rolleyes:
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As long as the reaction is aimed at those responsible for whatever the outrage is/was and that ALL Muslims must not be tarnished with the same brush otherwise the reaction to the reaction could be so great that the USA might (so to speak) grind to a halt for fear of who is standing infront or behind you. Everything in moderation should reap desired results.
Richard A. Abbott wrote:
ALL Muslims must not be tarnished with the same brush
you would hope that would be the case but it will depend on whether Muslims view themselves as Americans and speak out against whatever the event happens to be or do they view themselves as Muslims first and defend the perpetrators. If they do the latter, to use an archaic American term, it'll be Katy bar the door.
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fat_boy wrote:
There is no excuse in a modern, civilised, society for any weapon other than a target, or hunting weapon.
That's not true. The argument that we are entitled to self-defense from crime is perfectly sensible. If your wife were raped, I'm sure you would wish that she had a gun on her at the time.
People who pull a gun on a crook often have it turned on them. And, what's wrong with mace ?
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First, I do not own any guns. Just never found hunting fun. Where I live, we need people to hunt the land. Otherwise there would be too many deer, cougars, turkeys, geese...you name it. However, I don't think you need a 9mm to shoot a duck. I think that yes, we have the right to bear arms, but here is what I think the restrictions should be: 1. You can own a shotgun or rifle if you prove you have had a hunting license in the last five years. 2. No one should be allowed to own more than 2 handguns. Why? Because if there was a revolution you only have 2 hands. More than that is overkill. (Pun intended.) I don't understand why people horde guns and have their own arsenal. I don't understand the joy of shooting targets, animals or anything else. So while I agree with you to a certain extent, stop putting us all in one category! :-D
leckey wrote:
I don't understand why people horde guns and have their own arsenal.
I drive through waco quite often...
leckey wrote:
stop putting us all in one category!
I think the thing is, we're bombarded by US media, it's only natural for people to think they have the right to apply blanket stereotypes. Not saying that it's right, tho.
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Sometimes i think you europeans are jealous of our right to bear arms. I am 16 and have 2 rifles and about 500 rounds of 7.62x39. i doubt that would be legal in your country, but it is here. :)
A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity. - Sigmund Freud
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I am 16 and have 2 rifles and about 500 rounds of 7.62x39. i doubt that would be legal in your country, but it is here.
Legal doesn't make it sensible. So you really are 16. Are you also really homeschooled/left to fend for yourself all day ? With two rifles ?
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Score: 1.0 (3 votes). wrote:
I am 16 and have 2 rifles and about 500 rounds of 7.62x39. i doubt that would be legal in your country, but it is here.
Legal doesn't make it sensible. So you really are 16. Are you also really homeschooled/left to fend for yourself all day ? With two rifles ?
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Christian Graus wrote:
So you really are 16. Are you also really homeschooled/left to fend for yourself all day ? With two rifles ?
Yes. What is wrong with that? They are just inanimate objects. It is not like they are going to shoot me when i am not watching or something... :rolleyes:
A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity. - Sigmund Freud
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Christian Graus wrote:
So you really are 16. Are you also really homeschooled/left to fend for yourself all day ? With two rifles ?
Yes. What is wrong with that? They are just inanimate objects. It is not like they are going to shoot me when i am not watching or something... :rolleyes:
A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity. - Sigmund Freud
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Yes. What is wrong with that?
The fact that your parents allow it lowers the odds that you are made from genetic material that would predispose you to common sense. I was more worried about what you could do to others, not you specifically as much as wondering how many school shootings start this way.
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Score: 1.0 (3 votes). wrote:
Yes. What is wrong with that?
The fact that your parents allow it lowers the odds that you are made from genetic material that would predispose you to common sense. I was more worried about what you could do to others, not you specifically as much as wondering how many school shootings start this way.
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Christian Graus wrote:
I was more worried about what you could do to others, not you specifically as much as wondering how many school shootings start this way.
The columbine shooting didnt happen becaue the kids had guns, they got guns for the purpose of taking them to school. I dont know where you get the idea that guns cause people to harm others.
A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity. - Sigmund Freud
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Christian Graus wrote:
I was more worried about what you could do to others, not you specifically as much as wondering how many school shootings start this way.
The columbine shooting didnt happen becaue the kids had guns, they got guns for the purpose of taking them to school. I dont know where you get the idea that guns cause people to harm others.
A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity. - Sigmund Freud
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I dont know where you get the idea that guns cause people to harm others.
They don't, they simply provide the means and opportunity.
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Score: 1.0 (3 votes). wrote:
I dont know where you get the idea that guns cause people to harm others.
They don't, they simply provide the means and opportunity.
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What harm does it do to have the means and opportunity, when i dont have the desire to go shoot people?
A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity. - Sigmund Freud
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What harm does it do to have the means and opportunity, when i dont have the desire to go shoot people?
A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity. - Sigmund Freud
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What harm does it do to have the means and opportunity
What harm indeed ... Report by Julian Borger, Washington, Wednesday March 22, 2006 in The Guardian. Reference [^] A child is killed by a gun every three hours in America. According to the latest statistics, nearly 1,000 children under 19 are shot dead every year. Another 800 use guns to commit suicide, and more than 160 die in firearm accidents. Forty per cent of American households own guns, but those guns are 22 times more likely to be involved in an accidental shooting, or 11 times more likely to be used in a suicide, than in self-defence. On average, more than 80 Americans are killed by gunfire every day.
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espeir wrote:
That's not true. The argument that we are entitled to self-defense from crime is perfectly sensible. If your wife were raped, I'm sure you would wish that she had a gun on her at the time.
Most rapists don't announce their plan, they catch their victims unawares. Most women who have a weapon aren't able to use it when they are raped. A far more better protection is art of self-defence.
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ihoecken wrote:
Most women who have a weapon aren't able to use it when they are raped. A far more better protection is art of self-defence.
Indeed. A gun is only good if you have enough time to spot the danger, get the gun out and conjure up enough courage to use it. If you don't, the risk of being overpowered and killed is very high. There are many simple and effective techniques for disabling (at least temporarily) an attacker. It just requires some practice. :)
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People who pull a gun on a crook often have it turned on them. And, what's wrong with mace ?
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Mace is just as bad as guns. If you don't have the time to spot the danger and find the damn spray can, you're toast. Fists, fingers, nails and feet are the best tools for stopping an attack.
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Yeah, well...They sucked.
No, it's you who don't know what you're talking about. As usual. :)
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Mace is just as bad as guns. If you don't have the time to spot the danger and find the damn spray can, you're toast. Fists, fingers, nails and feet are the best tools for stopping an attack.
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Yeah, nothing beats a good kick in the balls. My point was just that a woman doesn't need a gun to protect herself. I've read of innocent men being shot by scared women because they were walking on the same street late at night.
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fat_boy wrote:
There is no excuse in a modern, civilised, society for any weapon other than a target, or hunting weapon.
well if it isn't the Oracle of all that is civilized. I have mine as a last bastion of protection against bomb vest wearing religous fanatics and the Clintonites.
Mike Dear NYT - the fact is, the founding fathers hung traitors. Vincent Reynolds: My opposition is as enlightened as your support, jackass. dennisd45: My view of the world is slightly more nuanced dennisd45 (the NAMBLA supporter) wrote: I know exactly what it means. So shut up you mother killing baby raper.
ROTFL - got my 5
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Yeah, nothing beats a good kick in the balls. My point was just that a woman doesn't need a gun to protect herself. I've read of innocent men being shot by scared women because they were walking on the same street late at night.
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Christian Graus wrote:
Yeah, nothing beats a good kick in the balls.
There are far more painful (at least momentarily) things to do to an attacker... There are plenty of nerves on your neck, that are quite pain generators. ;)
Christian Graus wrote:
My point was just that a woman doesn't need a gun to protect herself. I've read of innocent men being shot by scared women because they were walking on the same street late at night.
Man, I'd be so pissed if someone shot me just because I was out when it's dark. I'd muster all my energy to bitch slap her before I'd exhale my last breath.
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Christian Graus wrote:
Yeah, nothing beats a good kick in the balls.
There are far more painful (at least momentarily) things to do to an attacker... There are plenty of nerves on your neck, that are quite pain generators. ;)
Christian Graus wrote:
My point was just that a woman doesn't need a gun to protect herself. I've read of innocent men being shot by scared women because they were walking on the same street late at night.
Man, I'd be so pissed if someone shot me just because I was out when it's dark. I'd muster all my energy to bitch slap her before I'd exhale my last breath.
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Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote:
There are far more painful (at least momentarily) things to do to an attacker... There are plenty of nerves on your neck, that are quite pain generators.
I have heard one of the best is a punch at an upward angle right under the nose. is that true?
A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity. - Sigmund Freud
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Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote:
There are far more painful (at least momentarily) things to do to an attacker... There are plenty of nerves on your neck, that are quite pain generators.
I have heard one of the best is a punch at an upward angle right under the nose. is that true?
A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity. - Sigmund Freud
Sufficiently hard, it'll break the nose. It is however not necessary to hit that hard. Try slapping yourself on the nose with the back of your hand/fingers. Do it gently, ok? ;) Apply just a little more force, and your eyes will become teary - which is obviously a nice side effect. There are three pressure points (which I know of) on the front side of the neck. There is nothing magic about these points - under the skin at these locations, there are sensitive nerves. Slightly below and to the side of your adam's apple (both sides, symetrically), there are two really painful pressure points. Just press with your finger tips (gently!), and you'll find them. A strong thumb in those areas will make ANYONE grabbing you, let go. There's also one below the adam's apple, just above where the collar bones meet. It is not advisable to strike anyone too hard there, because you can easily miss and break the adam's apple (death by suffocation). Then there are two more pressure points on the backside of the neck. These are pure "knockout" points. These are hard to find by yourself, but you can try hitting yourself with the side of your hand. The points are roughly on the same level as the bottomside of your jaw bone. Also, if you're ever going to kick someone in the groin - don't kick too hard. For some reason, if you smash the good old glockenspiel, the pain isn't so great. The best effect is given by "whip kicking". Think of "whip kicking" as cracking a whip. You let the upside of your foot smack into the aggressor's balls just like the end of a whip. Hurts plenty. :eek:
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