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You Americans are obsessed with guns. What is it, Penis envy?

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  • A Allah On Acid

    Christian Graus wrote:

    So you really are 16. Are you also really homeschooled/left to fend for yourself all day ? With two rifles ?

    Yes. What is wrong with that? They are just inanimate objects. It is not like they are going to shoot me when i am not watching or something... :rolleyes:

    A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity. - Sigmund Freud

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    Christian Graus
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    Yes. What is wrong with that?

    The fact that your parents allow it lowers the odds that you are made from genetic material that would predispose you to common sense. I was more worried about what you could do to others, not you specifically as much as wondering how many school shootings start this way.

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      Yes. What is wrong with that?

      The fact that your parents allow it lowers the odds that you are made from genetic material that would predispose you to common sense. I was more worried about what you could do to others, not you specifically as much as wondering how many school shootings start this way.

      Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog

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      Allah On Acid
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      Christian Graus wrote:

      I was more worried about what you could do to others, not you specifically as much as wondering how many school shootings start this way.

      The columbine shooting didnt happen becaue the kids had guns, they got guns for the purpose of taking them to school. I dont know where you get the idea that guns cause people to harm others.

      A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity. - Sigmund Freud

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      • A Allah On Acid

        Christian Graus wrote:

        I was more worried about what you could do to others, not you specifically as much as wondering how many school shootings start this way.

        The columbine shooting didnt happen becaue the kids had guns, they got guns for the purpose of taking them to school. I dont know where you get the idea that guns cause people to harm others.

        A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity. - Sigmund Freud

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        Christian Graus
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        I dont know where you get the idea that guns cause people to harm others.

        They don't, they simply provide the means and opportunity.

        Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog

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          I dont know where you get the idea that guns cause people to harm others.

          They don't, they simply provide the means and opportunity.

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          Allah On Acid
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          What harm does it do to have the means and opportunity, when i dont have the desire to go shoot people?

          A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity. - Sigmund Freud

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          • A Allah On Acid

            What harm does it do to have the means and opportunity, when i dont have the desire to go shoot people?

            A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity. - Sigmund Freud

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            What harm does it do to have the means and opportunity

            What harm indeed ... Report by Julian Borger, Washington, Wednesday March 22, 2006 in The Guardian. Reference [^] A child is killed by a gun every three hours in America. According to the latest statistics, nearly 1,000 children under 19 are shot dead every year. Another 800 use guns to commit suicide, and more than 160 die in firearm accidents. Forty per cent of American households own guns, but those guns are 22 times more likely to be involved in an accidental shooting, or 11 times more likely to be used in a suicide, than in self-defence. On average, more than 80 Americans are killed by gunfire every day.

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              espeir wrote:

              That's not true. The argument that we are entitled to self-defense from crime is perfectly sensible. If your wife were raped, I'm sure you would wish that she had a gun on her at the time.

              Most rapists don't announce their plan, they catch their victims unawares. Most women who have a weapon aren't able to use it when they are raped. A far more better protection is art of self-defence.

              ------------------------------ PROST Roleplaying Game War doesn't determine who's right. War determines who's left. "Would you like us to drop a bomb on you too? We have 10,000 of them!" - espeir "Perhaps we should lend them a nuke or two." - espeir

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              Jorgen Sigvardsson
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              ihoecken wrote:

              Most women who have a weapon aren't able to use it when they are raped. A far more better protection is art of self-defence.

              Indeed. A gun is only good if you have enough time to spot the danger, get the gun out and conjure up enough courage to use it. If you don't, the risk of being overpowered and killed is very high. There are many simple and effective techniques for disabling (at least temporarily) an attacker. It just requires some practice. :)

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              • C Christian Graus

                People who pull a gun on a crook often have it turned on them. And, what's wrong with mace ?

                Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog

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                Jorgen Sigvardsson
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                Mace is just as bad as guns. If you don't have the time to spot the danger and find the damn spray can, you're toast. Fists, fingers, nails and feet are the best tools for stopping an attack.

                -- 80 percent entertainment by volume

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                  Yeah, well...They sucked.

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                  Jorgen Sigvardsson
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                  No, it's you who don't know what you're talking about. As usual. :)

                  -- Fun for the whole family - except grandma and grandpa

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                    Mace is just as bad as guns. If you don't have the time to spot the danger and find the damn spray can, you're toast. Fists, fingers, nails and feet are the best tools for stopping an attack.

                    -- 80 percent entertainment by volume

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                    Christian Graus
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                    Yeah, nothing beats a good kick in the balls. My point was just that a woman doesn't need a gun to protect herself. I've read of innocent men being shot by scared women because they were walking on the same street late at night.

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                    • M Mike Gaskey

                      fat_boy wrote:

                      There is no excuse in a modern, civilised, society for any weapon other than a target, or hunting weapon.

                      well if it isn't the Oracle of all that is civilized. I have mine as a last bastion of protection against bomb vest wearing religous fanatics and the Clintonites.

                      Mike Dear NYT - the fact is, the founding fathers hung traitors. Vincent Reynolds: My opposition is as enlightened as your support, jackass. dennisd45: My view of the world is slightly more nuanced dennisd45 (the NAMBLA supporter) wrote: I know exactly what it means. So shut up you mother killing baby raper.

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                      Christian Graus
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                      ROTFL - got my 5

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                      • C Christian Graus

                        Yeah, nothing beats a good kick in the balls. My point was just that a woman doesn't need a gun to protect herself. I've read of innocent men being shot by scared women because they were walking on the same street late at night.

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                        Jorgen Sigvardsson
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                        Christian Graus wrote:

                        Yeah, nothing beats a good kick in the balls.

                        There are far more painful (at least momentarily) things to do to an attacker... There are plenty of nerves on your neck, that are quite pain generators. ;)

                        Christian Graus wrote:

                        My point was just that a woman doesn't need a gun to protect herself. I've read of innocent men being shot by scared women because they were walking on the same street late at night.

                        Man, I'd be so pissed if someone shot me just because I was out when it's dark. I'd muster all my energy to bitch slap her before I'd exhale my last breath.

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                        • J Jorgen Sigvardsson

                          Christian Graus wrote:

                          Yeah, nothing beats a good kick in the balls.

                          There are far more painful (at least momentarily) things to do to an attacker... There are plenty of nerves on your neck, that are quite pain generators. ;)

                          Christian Graus wrote:

                          My point was just that a woman doesn't need a gun to protect herself. I've read of innocent men being shot by scared women because they were walking on the same street late at night.

                          Man, I'd be so pissed if someone shot me just because I was out when it's dark. I'd muster all my energy to bitch slap her before I'd exhale my last breath.

                          -- Federal law prohibits changing the channel

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                          Allah On Acid
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                          Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote:

                          There are far more painful (at least momentarily) things to do to an attacker... There are plenty of nerves on your neck, that are quite pain generators.

                          I have heard one of the best is a punch at an upward angle right under the nose. is that true?

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                            Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote:

                            There are far more painful (at least momentarily) things to do to an attacker... There are plenty of nerves on your neck, that are quite pain generators.

                            I have heard one of the best is a punch at an upward angle right under the nose. is that true?

                            A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity. - Sigmund Freud

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                            Jorgen Sigvardsson
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                            Sufficiently hard, it'll break the nose. It is however not necessary to hit that hard. Try slapping yourself on the nose with the back of your hand/fingers. Do it gently, ok? ;) Apply just a little more force, and your eyes will become teary - which is obviously a nice side effect. There are three pressure points (which I know of) on the front side of the neck. There is nothing magic about these points - under the skin at these locations, there are sensitive nerves. Slightly below and to the side of your adam's apple (both sides, symetrically), there are two really painful pressure points. Just press with your finger tips (gently!), and you'll find them. A strong thumb in those areas will make ANYONE grabbing you, let go. There's also one below the adam's apple, just above where the collar bones meet. It is not advisable to strike anyone too hard there, because you can easily miss and break the adam's apple (death by suffocation). Then there are two more pressure points on the backside of the neck. These are pure "knockout" points. These are hard to find by yourself, but you can try hitting yourself with the side of your hand. The points are roughly on the same level as the bottomside of your jaw bone. Also, if you're ever going to kick someone in the groin - don't kick too hard. For some reason, if you smash the good old glockenspiel, the pain isn't so great. The best effect is given by "whip kicking". Think of "whip kicking" as cracking a whip. You let the upside of your foot smack into the aggressor's balls just like the end of a whip. Hurts plenty. :eek:

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                              Sufficiently hard, it'll break the nose. It is however not necessary to hit that hard. Try slapping yourself on the nose with the back of your hand/fingers. Do it gently, ok? ;) Apply just a little more force, and your eyes will become teary - which is obviously a nice side effect. There are three pressure points (which I know of) on the front side of the neck. There is nothing magic about these points - under the skin at these locations, there are sensitive nerves. Slightly below and to the side of your adam's apple (both sides, symetrically), there are two really painful pressure points. Just press with your finger tips (gently!), and you'll find them. A strong thumb in those areas will make ANYONE grabbing you, let go. There's also one below the adam's apple, just above where the collar bones meet. It is not advisable to strike anyone too hard there, because you can easily miss and break the adam's apple (death by suffocation). Then there are two more pressure points on the backside of the neck. These are pure "knockout" points. These are hard to find by yourself, but you can try hitting yourself with the side of your hand. The points are roughly on the same level as the bottomside of your jaw bone. Also, if you're ever going to kick someone in the groin - don't kick too hard. For some reason, if you smash the good old glockenspiel, the pain isn't so great. The best effect is given by "whip kicking". Think of "whip kicking" as cracking a whip. You let the upside of your foot smack into the aggressor's balls just like the end of a whip. Hurts plenty. :eek:

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                              Allah On Acid
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                              That is interesting. Thanks.

                              A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity. - Sigmund Freud

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                              • C Christian Graus

                                leckey wrote:

                                I don't understand why people horde guns and have their own arsenal.

                                I drive through waco quite often...

                                leckey wrote:

                                stop putting us all in one category!

                                I think the thing is, we're bombarded by US media, it's only natural for people to think they have the right to apply blanket stereotypes. Not saying that it's right, tho.

                                Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog

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                                yes, and all Aussies wear Akubras, carry large knives, drink nothing but Fosters and cook a lot of shrimp on the grill. ;P

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                                  yes, and all Aussies wear Akubras, carry large knives, drink nothing but Fosters and cook a lot of shrimp on the grill. ;P

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                                  Christian Graus
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                                  I assume you mean put another prawn on the barbie ? We don't eat shrimp, nor do we have a grill, except on the front of our car.

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                                  • C Christian Graus

                                    I assume you mean put another prawn on the barbie ? We don't eat shrimp, nor do we have a grill, except on the front of our car.

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                                    My friends in Australia always called it the Weber (the grill). I was trying to make it more "legible" for everyone. :)

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                                      My friends in Australia always called it the Weber (the grill). I was trying to make it more "legible" for everyone. :)

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                                      Christian Graus
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                                      Your friends are yuppies. A Weber is totally different to a BBQ. All you need is a sheet of rusty metal, some old bricks and a fire.

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                                      • C Christian Graus

                                        Your friends are yuppies. A Weber is totally different to a BBQ. All you need is a sheet of rusty metal, some old bricks and a fire.

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                                        Totally not yuppies. Hugh came from England after WWII and Patricia grew up on a sheep farm. This was in the Victoria area so I don't know if that affects what term to use. I know outside of Melbourne no one used "grouse" as a term for cool. But Hugh and Patricia are the most down to earth people I know. I'd go to the ends of the Earth for them. They are like second parents. They are the ones I plan to visit next year.

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                                          Totally not yuppies. Hugh came from England after WWII and Patricia grew up on a sheep farm. This was in the Victoria area so I don't know if that affects what term to use. I know outside of Melbourne no one used "grouse" as a term for cool. But Hugh and Patricia are the most down to earth people I know. I'd go to the ends of the Earth for them. They are like second parents. They are the ones I plan to visit next year.

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                                          Maybe they just have a Weber then. It's a brand name.

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