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  • B brianwelsch

    Like Mike said, trust in WHO is very important. Another thing to consider is the less familiar I am with WHO the more time I may spend thinking about WHY they said something, meaning less time thinking about WHAT.

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    Raj Lal
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    So basically any statement made should be jusdged based on , WHO, WHAT as well as WHY, That reminds me of the Four Agreements hereClickety[^] where the author says "Don't take anything personally"

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    • N Nish Nishant

      There are also surveys that show that good looking people (male/female) get away with a lot more than other people do :-) And recently someone posted a link where a bunch of 6 month old babies were more attracted by a good looking model than by a normal woman. So even at 6 months, humans tend to appreciate good looks. Interesting, eh?

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      Edbert P
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      Nishant Sivakumar wrote:

      a bunch of 6 month old babies were more attracted by a good looking model than by a normal woman

      I saw a program on Discovery channel that says the same thing. I think it was titled "The Science of Beauty". It tries to quantify beauty by the symmetry between your left and right side of the face, the distance from the temple to the nose and nose to chin, etc. Quite interesting, really. It is true though that good looking people get away with a lot more.

      "A democracy is nothing more than mob rule, where fifty-one percent of the people may take away the rights of the other forty-nine." - Thomas Jefferson "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote." - Benjamin Franklin Edbert Sydney, Australia

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      • C Chris S Kaiser

        More often than not I'm considered wierd. I usually don't debate it. But it definately colors the way people take the information I offer up. Funny that. Often times the info is correct, and they fail to benefit due to pre-conceived notions. Oh well, mostly they're loss.

        This statement is false.

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        The whole thing is so funny People will buy stuffs just because the model in the ad was beautiful Somehow could not digest it , i think WHAT is always important then WHO

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        • L Lost User

          IMHO the WHO is very, VERY important. In today's world we get flooded with information and advertising. Learning who you can trust and/or believe is vital.

          "Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind." - Dr. Seuss

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          I don't agree with you completely, its quite vital if its a matter of trust WHO is important but the information itself is the core, The information should also be judged independently irrespective of the WHO and WHAT should get a fair chance. IF you CEO says that the project needs to be a web application and you Project manager thinks that it needs to be a distributed application, you cannot just agree with the CEO or PM you have to decide based on the information what should be done

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          • C Chris Losinger

            Ennis Ray Lynch, Jr. wrote:

            Why do you think the ipod sales so well.

            because it works well.

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            Chris Losinger wrote:

            because it works well.

            So does all the competitive MP3 players out there

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            • R Raj Lal

              I don't agree with you completely, its quite vital if its a matter of trust WHO is important but the information itself is the core, The information should also be judged independently irrespective of the WHO and WHAT should get a fair chance. IF you CEO says that the project needs to be a web application and you Project manager thinks that it needs to be a distributed application, you cannot just agree with the CEO or PM you have to decide based on the information what should be done

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              Quartz... wrote:

              The information should also be judged independently irrespective of the WHO and WHAT should get a fair chance.

              As long as it's verifiable data that's easy and obvious. Data is king. However, when it comes to "opinion" the WHO becomes important as well.

              Quartz... wrote:

              IF you CEO says that the project needs to be a web application and you Project manager thinks that it needs to be a distributed application, you cannot just agree with the CEO or PM you have to decide based on the information what should be done

              Except the CEO is the top of the food-chain and has the final word. While I might have an opinion and will certainly voice that opinion the CEO and PM will ultimately decide on the application type.

              "Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind." - Dr. Seuss

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              • C Chris S Kaiser

                If you deny correct information based on your opinion of the source, then your losing. I say the information, the what is more important. Of course the exception to this rule is the person who lies a lot. But if you just don't agree with the person's style or opinions, then dismissing data based on that opinion is limited and weak.

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                Chris S Kaiser wrote:

                If you deny correct information based on your opinion of the source, then your losing.

                Who said anything about denying correct information? All I said was that with the flood of data these days you need to learn who you can trust. Sheesh!

                "Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind." - Dr. Seuss

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                • R Raj Lal

                  Chris Losinger wrote:

                  because it works well.

                  So does all the competitive MP3 players out there

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                  i have 1000+ songs i bought from iTunes. will any one those other players play them ?

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                  • R Raj Lal

                    So basically any statement made should be jusdged based on , WHO, WHAT as well as WHY, That reminds me of the Four Agreements hereClickety[^] where the author says "Don't take anything personally"

                    Omit Needless Words - Strunk, William, Jr.


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                    Quartz... wrote:

                    So basically any statement made should be jusdged based on , WHO, WHAT as well as WHY,

                    A listener needs to try to interpret the message as having the meaning it was intended to have. I haven't Ruiz, but I think not taking anything personally is a pretty sad way to go through life. When someone tells me they love me, I'm not supposed to take that personally? I think it's better to learn what to take to heart and what to leave behind.

                    BW


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                    • N Nish Nishant

                      There are also surveys that show that good looking people (male/female) get away with a lot more than other people do :-) And recently someone posted a link where a bunch of 6 month old babies were more attracted by a good looking model than by a normal woman. So even at 6 months, humans tend to appreciate good looks. Interesting, eh?

                      Regards, Nish


                      Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET (my blog)
                      Currently working on C++/CLI in Action for Manning Publications. Also visit the Ultimate Toolbox blog (New)

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                      Nishant Sivakumar wrote:

                      There are also surveys that show that good looking people (male/female) get away with a lot more than other people do

                      Thanks being me. ;)

                      pathak

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                      • L Lost User

                        Chris S Kaiser wrote:

                        If you deny correct information based on your opinion of the source, then your losing.

                        Who said anything about denying correct information? All I said was that with the flood of data these days you need to learn who you can trust. Sheesh!

                        "Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind." - Dr. Seuss

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                        I was adding my view to the discussion, not accusing anyone. Relax dude. All I was saying is that its about the information and not the person. Chill.

                        This statement is false.

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                        • B brianwelsch

                          Quartz... wrote:

                          So basically any statement made should be jusdged based on , WHO, WHAT as well as WHY,

                          A listener needs to try to interpret the message as having the meaning it was intended to have. I haven't Ruiz, but I think not taking anything personally is a pretty sad way to go through life. When someone tells me they love me, I'm not supposed to take that personally? I think it's better to learn what to take to heart and what to leave behind.

                          BW


                          If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.
                          -- Steven Wright

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                          Raj Lal
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                          well the author in the book says "Don't take anything personally in professional and social environment" Because a lot of anxiety and hopelessness comes from thinking on what others says about you or how other reacts. Ofcourse in your personal life and with close freinds you have to take things personally you got to read that book to get a better picture i did like it in a number of ways Raj

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