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    Jerry Hammond
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    After 21 years working as a bartender in a major casino resort in Las Vegas I tendered my resignation. So, now this hobbiest has a question for all you lounge lizards... As a hobbiest programmer what can I emphasize that might convince an employer to take a shot with me? Did I mention no more smoke-filled casinos?!

    When was the last time you poured some wine for you and your sweetie and went out on the front porch to watch the geometry frolic on the lake?--Rebecca M. Riordan, Designing Effective Database Systems

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      After 21 years working as a bartender in a major casino resort in Las Vegas I tendered my resignation. So, now this hobbiest has a question for all you lounge lizards... As a hobbiest programmer what can I emphasize that might convince an employer to take a shot with me? Did I mention no more smoke-filled casinos?!

      When was the last time you poured some wine for you and your sweetie and went out on the front porch to watch the geometry frolic on the lake?--Rebecca M. Riordan, Designing Effective Database Systems

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      My boss hired a guy with a 2-year web programming degree but all he seems to know is JavaScript. The HR person really pushed my boss to hire him so the company can "mold" him. If I were looking to hire a programmer (which I've done in the past) who didn't have formal training I would want to see a home grown project that can be applied to the business world. Take some common business problem and come up with a usable solution. Show me documentation, how it works, etc.

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      Can I be a gecko instead? That was one of my nicknames in high school...

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        After 21 years working as a bartender in a major casino resort in Las Vegas I tendered my resignation. So, now this hobbiest has a question for all you lounge lizards... As a hobbiest programmer what can I emphasize that might convince an employer to take a shot with me? Did I mention no more smoke-filled casinos?!

        When was the last time you poured some wine for you and your sweetie and went out on the front porch to watch the geometry frolic on the lake?--Rebecca M. Riordan, Designing Effective Database Systems

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        Sho_Asylumn
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        You just need to emphasize the following: "None of my code will appear on thedailywtf.com." :) OF course, mentioning that you can follow design specs, coding guidelines and style guidelines is usually a plus. But mentioning that you have a couple of articles on a certain respected programming website can also help sway potential employers. *hint, hint* And if all else fails, that's when you pull out the blackmail pictures of them at the bar with a couple of showgirls.

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          After 21 years working as a bartender in a major casino resort in Las Vegas I tendered my resignation. So, now this hobbiest has a question for all you lounge lizards... As a hobbiest programmer what can I emphasize that might convince an employer to take a shot with me? Did I mention no more smoke-filled casinos?!

          When was the last time you poured some wine for you and your sweetie and went out on the front porch to watch the geometry frolic on the lake?--Rebecca M. Riordan, Designing Effective Database Systems

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          Weiye Chen
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          Jerry Hammond wrote:

          As a hobbiest programmer what can I emphasize that might convince an employer to take a shot with me?

          You might wanna consider that. I have had several programming jobs in the past and none work out well. Perhaps they are all contract work but i feel its my artistic mindset towards programming that makes it hard for me to do it for a living. Not to de-moralise you, but that's just me. :|

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            After 21 years working as a bartender in a major casino resort in Las Vegas I tendered my resignation. So, now this hobbiest has a question for all you lounge lizards... As a hobbiest programmer what can I emphasize that might convince an employer to take a shot with me? Did I mention no more smoke-filled casinos?!

            When was the last time you poured some wine for you and your sweetie and went out on the front porch to watch the geometry frolic on the lake?--Rebecca M. Riordan, Designing Effective Database Systems

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            Joe Woodbury
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            You could try to get a job testing for one of the several gaming machine developers.

            Anyone who thinks he has a better idea of what's good for people than people do is a swine. - P.J. O'Rourke

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              After 21 years working as a bartender in a major casino resort in Las Vegas I tendered my resignation. So, now this hobbiest has a question for all you lounge lizards... As a hobbiest programmer what can I emphasize that might convince an employer to take a shot with me? Did I mention no more smoke-filled casinos?!

              When was the last time you poured some wine for you and your sweetie and went out on the front porch to watch the geometry frolic on the lake?--Rebecca M. Riordan, Designing Effective Database Systems

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              Steve Echols
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              Jerry Hammond wrote:

              As a hobbiest programmer what can I emphasize that might convince an employer to take a shot with me?

              Application Knoweledge. With 21 years of experience in the gambling/drinking biz, you probably have some pretty good insight into the many different aspects of it, so use that to your advantage. If you don't want to work in that field anymore, then show prospective employers some of your code or apps you've written, so they can see that you have the skills.


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                You just need to emphasize the following: "None of my code will appear on thedailywtf.com." :) OF course, mentioning that you can follow design specs, coding guidelines and style guidelines is usually a plus. But mentioning that you have a couple of articles on a certain respected programming website can also help sway potential employers. *hint, hint* And if all else fails, that's when you pull out the blackmail pictures of them at the bar with a couple of showgirls.

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                I assume you have no degree in programming/CS...

                Sho_Asylumn wrote:

                But mentioning that you have a couple of articles on a certain respected programming website can also help sway potential employers. *hint, hint*

                Of all ( presently nine or so ) replies the one above was the best. I would add: you have to show them stuff that you have done. Actual working applications. Be prepared to show your source-code. Be prepared to describe how you went about creating those apps: specification, development, testing, bug-fixing, feature-enhancements etc etc Good Luck!

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                • J Jerry Hammond

                  After 21 years working as a bartender in a major casino resort in Las Vegas I tendered my resignation. So, now this hobbiest has a question for all you lounge lizards... As a hobbiest programmer what can I emphasize that might convince an employer to take a shot with me? Did I mention no more smoke-filled casinos?!

                  When was the last time you poured some wine for you and your sweetie and went out on the front porch to watch the geometry frolic on the lake?--Rebecca M. Riordan, Designing Effective Database Systems

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                  Roland Pibinger
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                  Jerry Hammond wrote:

                  As a hobbiest programmer what can I emphasize that might convince an employer to take a shot with me?

                  Hmm,

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                  Write a CP article in the field you know best and show it to your prospective employer .

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                    After 21 years working as a bartender in a major casino resort in Las Vegas I tendered my resignation. So, now this hobbiest has a question for all you lounge lizards... As a hobbiest programmer what can I emphasize that might convince an employer to take a shot with me? Did I mention no more smoke-filled casinos?!

                    When was the last time you poured some wine for you and your sweetie and went out on the front porch to watch the geometry frolic on the lake?--Rebecca M. Riordan, Designing Effective Database Systems

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                    Ashley van Gerven
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                    Jerry Hammond wrote:

                    what can I emphasize

                    Tell them you make a mean Mojito[^] ;) Would really come in handy for office parties :)

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                    • J Jerry Hammond

                      After 21 years working as a bartender in a major casino resort in Las Vegas I tendered my resignation. So, now this hobbiest has a question for all you lounge lizards... As a hobbiest programmer what can I emphasize that might convince an employer to take a shot with me? Did I mention no more smoke-filled casinos?!

                      When was the last time you poured some wine for you and your sweetie and went out on the front porch to watch the geometry frolic on the lake?--Rebecca M. Riordan, Designing Effective Database Systems

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                      How about working for a company that builds casino games? It is a lot of fun and you do have to figure out how to beat the crooks who are bent upon cheating at the games.

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                        My boss hired a guy with a 2-year web programming degree but all he seems to know is JavaScript. The HR person really pushed my boss to hire him so the company can "mold" him. If I were looking to hire a programmer (which I've done in the past) who didn't have formal training I would want to see a home grown project that can be applied to the business world. Take some common business problem and come up with a usable solution. Show me documentation, how it works, etc.

                        Jerry Hammond wrote:

                        lounge lizards

                        Can I be a gecko instead? That was one of my nicknames in high school...

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                        Lost User
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                        leckey wrote:

                        The HR person really pushed my boss to hire him so the company can "mold" him.

                        I reccommend a 50 ton press.

                        The tigress is here :-D

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                          You could try to get a job testing for one of the several gaming machine developers.

                          Anyone who thinks he has a better idea of what's good for people than people do is a swine. - P.J. O'Rourke

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                          benjymous
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                          Seriously? I don't know about the industry as a whole, but from personal experience it's rare for that many testers to graduate into the main development team - usually testing happens at the end half of a product cycle, and then most of the QA's short contracts end, the developers start pre-production on the next game, and a whole new lot of QA are brought in when needed

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                            After 21 years working as a bartender in a major casino resort in Las Vegas I tendered my resignation. So, now this hobbiest has a question for all you lounge lizards... As a hobbiest programmer what can I emphasize that might convince an employer to take a shot with me? Did I mention no more smoke-filled casinos?!

                            When was the last time you poured some wine for you and your sweetie and went out on the front porch to watch the geometry frolic on the lake?--Rebecca M. Riordan, Designing Effective Database Systems

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                            Bassam Abdul Baki
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                            Which casino resort if I may ask?


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                              Which casino resort if I may ask?


                              "I know which side I want to win regardless of how many wrongs they have to commit to achieve it." - Stan Shannon Web - Blog - RSS - Math - LinkedIn

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                              Jerry Hammond
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                              Sahara Hotel and Casino

                              When was the last time you poured some wine for you and your sweetie and went out on the front porch to watch the geometry frolic on the lake?--Rebecca M. Riordan, Designing Effective Database Systems

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                                Sahara Hotel and Casino

                                When was the last time you poured some wine for you and your sweetie and went out on the front porch to watch the geometry frolic on the lake?--Rebecca M. Riordan, Designing Effective Database Systems

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                                Bassam Abdul Baki
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                                The only one we didn't go to last November. We stayed at the Balley's and visited almost all hotels including Circus Circus. But we were exhausted cause we didn't know about the buses and decided not to go to Sahara's. :)


                                "I know which side I want to win regardless of how many wrongs they have to commit to achieve it." - Stan Shannon Web - Blog - RSS - Math - LinkedIn

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                                  The only one we didn't go to last November. We stayed at the Balley's and visited almost all hotels including Circus Circus. But we were exhausted cause we didn't know about the buses and decided not to go to Sahara's. :)


                                  "I know which side I want to win regardless of how many wrongs they have to commit to achieve it." - Stan Shannon Web - Blog - RSS - Math - LinkedIn

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                                  Jerry Hammond
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                                  Monorail would've got you there in better fashion.

                                  When was the last time you poured some wine for you and your sweetie and went out on the front porch to watch the geometry frolic on the lake?--Rebecca M. Riordan, Designing Effective Database Systems

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                                    Monorail would've got you there in better fashion.

                                    When was the last time you poured some wine for you and your sweetie and went out on the front porch to watch the geometry frolic on the lake?--Rebecca M. Riordan, Designing Effective Database Systems

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                                    Blake Miller
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                                    Oh, is it WORKING now :omg:

                                    Any sufficiently gross incompetence is nearly indistinguishable from malice.

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                                    • J Jerry Hammond

                                      Monorail would've got you there in better fashion.

                                      When was the last time you poured some wine for you and your sweetie and went out on the front porch to watch the geometry frolic on the lake?--Rebecca M. Riordan, Designing Effective Database Systems

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                                      Bassam Abdul Baki
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                                      We did take that on the last day. Live and learn. :)


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