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  • S Smith

    How good is it(Sempron 2600)? Far below Athlon? Can it take on the VS2005 with a 512MB RAM ? -- modified at 11:49 Tuesday 29th August, 2006

    :~

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    just curious why you are using a Sempron?

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      How good is it(Sempron 2600)? Far below Athlon? Can it take on the VS2005 with a 512MB RAM ? -- modified at 11:49 Tuesday 29th August, 2006

      :~

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      peterchen
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      It can, but you can't. (I guess, but memory throughput is the big thing for VS2005, and Semprons still have neutered caches, right?)


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      • S Smith

        How good is it(Sempron 2600)? Far below Athlon? Can it take on the VS2005 with a 512MB RAM ? -- modified at 11:49 Tuesday 29th August, 2006

        :~

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        Check here^


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        • K KevinMac

          just curious why you are using a Sempron?

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          Smith
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          Actually I'm buying "another" PC to be used at home. I've a notebook but I find I'm stuffing more stuff into it. I need a "supporting"(may be a co-pc!) PC for my notebook. I should opt for the cheapest(but as decent as sempron) one in the market. So considered Sempron.

          :)

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            It can, but you can't. (I guess, but memory throughput is the big thing for VS2005, and Semprons still have neutered caches, right?)


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            Smith
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            Yup, only 128KB cache!

            :(

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              I'm sorry, I wasn't very clear. I didn't mean that the Sempron and Celeron didn't have cache, just that the cache had been modified to be inferior. (They used to remove large pieces of it) It is purely a marketing game where they will cripple a chip (which costs a little extra because it's an extra step) and then sell it at a reduced price so that they can maintain a higher price on their regular chips. My personal recomendation would be to get the full Athlon. Even if you get a slower clock speed, it could wind up being faster because of it's cache.

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              Are you serious? It is the same chip but they purposely damage it to inflate prices of the unbroken chip. OMG that is insane. Corporate America will do anything for a dollar. That makes me want to vomit.


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                Baj22 wrote:

                It's very hard to run anything with 512K anymore

                I believe the confusion is with Caches. Sempron Processors have maximum of 512K L2 Caches. Most Sempron Processors have 128K or 256K, but the newer ones are coming out with 512K. Between L1 and L2 cache memory specs and physical memory, I think more people are getting confused.... Just wait for the confusion of L3 caches.

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                Smith
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                You are right. :-D

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                • S Smith

                  Actually I'm buying "another" PC to be used at home. I've a notebook but I find I'm stuffing more stuff into it. I need a "supporting"(may be a co-pc!) PC for my notebook. I should opt for the cheapest(but as decent as sempron) one in the market. So considered Sempron.

                  :)

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                  I have an older laptop that runs the centrio chip which is not very fast and it seems to run VS2005 without issue. I stacked the ram up to 1gig which was a great improvement.

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                  • T ToddHileHoffer

                    Are you serious? It is the same chip but they purposely damage it to inflate prices of the unbroken chip. OMG that is insane. Corporate America will do anything for a dollar. That makes me want to vomit.


                    how vital enterprise application are for proactive organizations leveraging collective synergy to think outside the box and formulate their key objectives into a win-win game plan with a quality-driven approach that focuses on empowering key players to drive-up their core competencies and increase expectations with an all-around initiative to drive up the bottom-line. But of course, that's all a "high level" overview of things --thedailywtf 3/21/06

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                    David Crow
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                    ToddHileHoffer wrote:

                    Corporate America will do anything for a dollar.

                    I'm surprised that that surprises you.


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                    • T ToddHileHoffer

                      Are you serious? It is the same chip but they purposely damage it to inflate prices of the unbroken chip. OMG that is insane. Corporate America will do anything for a dollar. That makes me want to vomit.


                      how vital enterprise application are for proactive organizations leveraging collective synergy to think outside the box and formulate their key objectives into a win-win game plan with a quality-driven approach that focuses on empowering key players to drive-up their core competencies and increase expectations with an all-around initiative to drive up the bottom-line. But of course, that's all a "high level" overview of things --thedailywtf 3/21/06

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                      I think they use chips that have defects in part of their L2 cache. Selling them as a lower-end model is better than throwing them away.

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                      • T ToddHileHoffer

                        Are you serious? It is the same chip but they purposely damage it to inflate prices of the unbroken chip. OMG that is insane. Corporate America will do anything for a dollar. That makes me want to vomit.


                        how vital enterprise application are for proactive organizations leveraging collective synergy to think outside the box and formulate their key objectives into a win-win game plan with a quality-driven approach that focuses on empowering key players to drive-up their core competencies and increase expectations with an all-around initiative to drive up the bottom-line. But of course, that's all a "high level" overview of things --thedailywtf 3/21/06

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                        Dan Neely
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                        I've never heard that about amd chips, but I know intel did it at various points with 486SX, and no cache celerons. In both cases they started out selling chips with a defective module at a discount and demand for the lowcost part ended up outstripping the suppy of defects.

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