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  • J Joe Woodbury

    If you believe that you are totally delusional. GM is having problems because they aren't creating cars people want to buy with sufficient profit margin to actually make money. In short, their management sucks, they have no vision, and the unions are killing them with expenses. In truth, had they actually gone into porn, they'd probably be making money instead of losing it like crazy.

    Anyone who thinks he has a better idea of what's good for people than people do is a swine. - P.J. O'Rourke

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    Paul Selormey
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    Joe Woodbury wrote:

    GM is having problems because they aren't creating cars people want to buy with sufficient profit margin to actually make money.

    ...and those cars are wanted in the Asian markets?

    Joe Woodbury wrote:

    In short, their management sucks, they have no vision, and the unions are killing them with expenses.

    Hmmmm, that how it will look. Let me give you a hint, keep an eye on Sony - no doubt they have very good management. Best regards, Paul.

    Jesus Christ is LOVE! Please tell somebody.

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      Joe Woodbury wrote:

      GM is having problems because they aren't creating cars people want to buy with sufficient profit margin to actually make money.

      ...and those cars are wanted in the Asian markets?

      Joe Woodbury wrote:

      In short, their management sucks, they have no vision, and the unions are killing them with expenses.

      Hmmmm, that how it will look. Let me give you a hint, keep an eye on Sony - no doubt they have very good management. Best regards, Paul.

      Jesus Christ is LOVE! Please tell somebody.

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      Joe Woodbury
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      Paul Selormey wrote:

      Hmmmm, that how it will look. Let me give you a hint, keep an eye on Sony - no doubt they have very good management.

      This statement is incoherent. I really have no idea what you are trying to say. For the record SONY's management is pretty bad. They have made blunder after blunder over the last few years including the latest debacle with batteries. Indications are that Playstation 3 is going to bomb. Whether Blu-Ray becomes anything but an expensive exercise in corporate hubris remains to be seen. SONY used to be the most respected company in consumer electronics in terms of quality. People would pay extra for their products. That is no longer true in most areas. (Even their professional electronics products have slipped.) -- addition at 21:58 Tuesday 29th August, 2006 I think SONY has a better chance to recover than GM. First, they're actually making money. Second, most their problems are related to quality control which can be fixed. The battery recall may provide an impetus for this.

      Anyone who thinks he has a better idea of what's good for people than people do is a swine. - P.J. O'Rourke

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      • J Joe Woodbury

        Paul Selormey wrote:

        Hmmmm, that how it will look. Let me give you a hint, keep an eye on Sony - no doubt they have very good management.

        This statement is incoherent. I really have no idea what you are trying to say. For the record SONY's management is pretty bad. They have made blunder after blunder over the last few years including the latest debacle with batteries. Indications are that Playstation 3 is going to bomb. Whether Blu-Ray becomes anything but an expensive exercise in corporate hubris remains to be seen. SONY used to be the most respected company in consumer electronics in terms of quality. People would pay extra for their products. That is no longer true in most areas. (Even their professional electronics products have slipped.) -- addition at 21:58 Tuesday 29th August, 2006 I think SONY has a better chance to recover than GM. First, they're actually making money. Second, most their problems are related to quality control which can be fixed. The battery recall may provide an impetus for this.

        Anyone who thinks he has a better idea of what's good for people than people do is a swine. - P.J. O'Rourke

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        Joe Woodbury wrote:

        SONY used to be the most respected company in consumer electronics in terms of quality. People would pay extra for their products. That is no longer true in most areas. (Even their professional electronics products have slipped.)

        So far the only reported case is the battery, that is why I ask that you keep your eye there as the story unfolds. Interesting you are already trying hard to find a reason - it is simply, they are kicking a rock! :^) Best regards, Paul.

        Jesus Christ is LOVE! Please tell somebody.

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          Joe Woodbury wrote:

          SONY used to be the most respected company in consumer electronics in terms of quality. People would pay extra for their products. That is no longer true in most areas. (Even their professional electronics products have slipped.)

          So far the only reported case is the battery, that is why I ask that you keep your eye there as the story unfolds. Interesting you are already trying hard to find a reason - it is simply, they are kicking a rock! :^) Best regards, Paul.

          Jesus Christ is LOVE! Please tell somebody.

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          Joe Woodbury
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          Paul Selormey wrote:

          So far the only reported case is the battery

          No. They had a snafu with an illegal protection scheme. They are having serious QA problems with Playstation 3. Their general consumer product line has also had quality problems. On top of that, speaking in vageries is simply pompous.

          Anyone who thinks he has a better idea of what's good for people than people do is a swine. - P.J. O'Rourke

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          • J Joe Woodbury

            If you believe that you are totally delusional. GM is having problems because they aren't creating cars people want to buy with sufficient profit margin to actually make money. In short, their management sucks, they have no vision, and the unions are killing them with expenses. In truth, had they actually gone into porn, they'd probably be making money instead of losing it like crazy.

            Anyone who thinks he has a better idea of what's good for people than people do is a swine. - P.J. O'Rourke

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            Tim Kohler
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            Well, I sure hope they turn it around. I think they will. They are getting a few more winners out there with the new Pontiac Solstice and the re-introduction of a retroish Camaro. I love GM and really am hoping for them! They are a great pillar of America.

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            • N Nish Nishant

              Paul Selormey wrote:

              The prize for a car company getting into porn. Christian are now learning to use their money in a way that will glorify their Provider.

              :confused: Porn? Christians?

              Regards, Nish


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              El Corazon
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              Nishant Sivakumar wrote:

              Porn? Christians?

              Yup, they have large numbers of followers searching for porn everywhere. When they find it, they double, triple, sometimes check many, many times then tell the world what they found and look for more. Just imagine having that job!

              _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)

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              • N Nish Nishant

                Bassam Abdul-Baki wrote:

                Just ignore what he said.

                Yeah, good idea. It's not as if I could figure what he's talking about anyway!

                Regards, Nish


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                Bassam Abdul Baki
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                Didn't answer my question about his icon though. He has the same icon as you, but his is flashing.


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                • B Bassam Abdul Baki

                  Didn't answer my question about his icon though. He has the same icon as you, but his is flashing.


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                  Edbert P
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                  The icon means he's a CodeProject Supporter, i.e. he bought some software from CodeProject, e.g. Visual Studio 2005.

                  "A democracy is nothing more than mob rule, where fifty-one percent of the people may take away the rights of the other forty-nine." - Thomas Jefferson "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote." - Benjamin Franklin Edbert Sydney, Australia

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                  • B Bassam Abdul Baki

                    Didn't answer my question about his icon though. He has the same icon as you, but his is flashing.


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                    Nish Nishant
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                    Bassam Abdul-Baki wrote:

                    He has the same icon as you, but his is flashing.

                    His icon does not have a laptop bag, mine does :-) Maybe his icon had a dell and it exploded and hence the flashing (actually the explosion flare)

                    Regards, Nish


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                    Currently working on C++/CLI in Action for Manning Publications. Also visit the Ultimate Toolbox blog (New)

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                    • P Paul Selormey

                      Joe Woodbury wrote:

                      SONY used to be the most respected company in consumer electronics in terms of quality. People would pay extra for their products. That is no longer true in most areas. (Even their professional electronics products have slipped.)

                      So far the only reported case is the battery, that is why I ask that you keep your eye there as the story unfolds. Interesting you are already trying hard to find a reason - it is simply, they are kicking a rock! :^) Best regards, Paul.

                      Jesus Christ is LOVE! Please tell somebody.

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                      Lost User
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                      Paul Selormey wrote:

                      So far the only reported case is the battery, that is why I ask that you keep your eye there as the story unfolds.

                      Ummmm... can you say rootkit!!![^] :omg:

                      "Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind." - Dr. Seuss

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                      • N Nish Nishant

                        Bassam Abdul-Baki wrote:

                        He has the same icon as you, but his is flashing.

                        His icon does not have a laptop bag, mine does :-) Maybe his icon had a dell and it exploded and hence the flashing (actually the explosion flare)

                        Regards, Nish


                        Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET (my blog)
                        Currently working on C++/CLI in Action for Manning Publications. Also visit the Ultimate Toolbox blog (New)

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                        Michael P Butler
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                        Nishant Sivakumar wrote:

                        His icon does not have a laptop bag, mine does

                        That's a laptop bag? I never knew that.

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                        • P Paul Selormey

                          General motors started dealing in porn. This is a little...[^] The Christians in the US decided never to spend their money on a company in porn business, so GM started the downward trend. Hope it is clearer. Best regards, Paul.

                          Jesus Christ is LOVE! Please tell somebody.

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                          Rohde
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                          But porn is good for you, isn't?

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