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Tom Archer wrote: This is not true. So far, almost all judgements in Internet-related cases have been decided with the laws that govern where the server is. I was expresing my opinion on the cases you mentioned, sorry for not making it clear. And, I was talking about the US citizen not the server. The server operator shall abide by the laws governing his country, but the US citizen shall abide by US law. Where there are conflicts between legislations and the US citizen decides to go against US law, he must renounce to his citizenship or face the potential consecuences. Again, this is my opinion and I'm not a lawyer, so I may be completly wrong regarding US and foreign law conflicts for the US point of view.
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Checkout GUIDGen.NETUnderstood. However, some of these issues are exactly what the lawyers are haggling over now because there's simply no precedent for the Internet. I have a couple of lawyers that oversee my Internet ventures and believe me it's not simple stuff with so much of it being decided and invented now and for the forseeable future. Cheers, Tom Archer Author, Inside C# Please note that the opinions expressed in this correspondence do not necessarily reflect the views of the author.
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I think it's a great idea. Pornographic websites should be in the .xxx (or something related) domains. It makes it a bit easier to control access to minors.
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Checkout GUIDGen.NETI never said it was a bad idea, just that ".prn" strikes me as funny. Jon Sagara There is no spoon.
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Yes, but this means that an Adult website ran out of Europe or somewhere else would be in violation of U.S. law if it registered a .com domain whereas anywhere else in the world it would be perfectly legal. I do believe that there should be a domain just for adult crap, but, it would have to be decieded by an international body, not the U.S. Jason Gerard
Jason Gerard wrote: Yes, but this means that an Adult website ran out of Europe or somewhere else would be in violation of U.S. law if it registered a .com domain whereas anywhere else in the world it would be perfectly legal. Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't America own/run/manage whatever you wanna say, .com .net and .org? I could be wrong on this, but even if I am, you guys should quit bitching about America trying to put laws on the internet and thank it for creating the thing in the first place. -Jack To an optimist the glass is half full. To a pessimist the glass is half empty. To a programmer the glass is twice as big as it needs to be.
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Jason Gerard wrote: Yes, but this means that an Adult website ran out of Europe or somewhere else would be in violation of U.S. law if it registered a .com domain whereas anywhere else in the world it would be perfectly legal. Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't America own/run/manage whatever you wanna say, .com .net and .org? I could be wrong on this, but even if I am, you guys should quit bitching about America trying to put laws on the internet and thank it for creating the thing in the first place. -Jack To an optimist the glass is half full. To a pessimist the glass is half empty. To a programmer the glass is twice as big as it needs to be.
Just to let you know, I'm an American. And yes, without DARPA, the internet probably wouldn't exist. But, it is now an international entity and should be governed by an international organization. Jason Gerard
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Russell Morris wrote: You're kidding, right? Partly. Your job is to figure out the sarcasm and the underlying truths of it. Russell Morris wrote: US Congress has no business whatsoever making laws that tell other countries' citizens what they can and can't do while not on US soil. To say otherwise is absolute foolishness. Really. Try telling that to Deutsche Bahn and New Zealand, just to name a few recently. .AU was in the news a while back about similar things too. Once Bush Jr complete's Daddy Bush's 1000 points of light, we'll all be one happy big new world order planet. Then you too can bitch and moan about how things used to be while watching football on your HDTV.
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Todd C. Wilson wrote: New Zealand Whats the refernce here please ? I'm confused sorry. Regardz Colin J Davies
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You're putting words in my mouth - I have a person that does that already and she's Mrs. Archer :laugh: Seriously, what I'm against is that the law is too broadly worded and would encompass many acts that it should not. I definitely believe in privacy. However, the way the bill is worded if I tape the Mardi Gras party, I would be in violation. Cheers, Tom Archer Author, Inside C# Please note that the opinions expressed in this correspondence do not necessarily reflect the views of the author.
Tom Archer wrote: I have a person that does that already and she's Mrs. Archer Gosh, what a broad minded family, letting your Mum videotape you and your wife. My Mum wouldn't do that for us, mind I have never asked. Regardz Colin J Davies
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I never said it was a bad idea, just that ".prn" strikes me as funny. Jon Sagara There is no spoon.
Jon Sagara wrote: I never said it was a bad idea, just that ".prn" strikes me as funny. There is no reason why a level domain name has only 3 letters, like .museum for instance. They could make it just .restricted for example to cover a range of things. Regardz Colin J Davies
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Tom Archer wrote: I have a person that does that already and she's Mrs. Archer Gosh, what a broad minded family, letting your Mum videotape you and your wife. My Mum wouldn't do that for us, mind I have never asked. Regardz Colin J Davies
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Live in Amsterdam for a couple of years. You'd be surprised at how those inhibitions come tumbling down :-P Cheers, Tom Archer Author, Inside C# Please note that the opinions expressed in this correspondence do not necessarily reflect the views of the author.
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Jon Sagara wrote: I never said it was a bad idea, just that ".prn" strikes me as funny. There is no reason why a level domain name has only 3 letters, like .museum for instance. They could make it just .restricted for example to cover a range of things. Regardz Colin J Davies
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Ok, how about this: There is nothing wrong with the idea, and .prn is a fine extension if they want to use that. Upon first viewing, it made me laugh. That's all I meant. Jon Sagara There is no spoon.
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Ok, how about this: There is nothing wrong with the idea, and .prn is a fine extension if they want to use that. Upon first viewing, it made me laugh. That's all I meant. Jon Sagara There is no spoon.
Jon Sagara wrote: There is nothing wrong with the idea, and .prn is a fine extension Yeah I was just being to too serious, as a parent I want to see the web cleaned up, but not censored etc. I got double standards. Regardz Colin J Davies
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Live in Amsterdam for a couple of years. You'd be surprised at how those inhibitions come tumbling down :-P Cheers, Tom Archer Author, Inside C# Please note that the opinions expressed in this correspondence do not necessarily reflect the views of the author.
Tom Archer wrote: Live in Amsterdam for a couple of years. Yeah, I use to hang out at some joints in the Canal Street area. Typical tourist stuff. :-) But my mum mever new I went to Amsterdam. :-) Regardz Colin J Davies
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Tom Archer wrote: Live in Amsterdam for a couple of years. Yeah, I use to hang out at some joints in the Canal Street area. Typical tourist stuff. :-) But my mum mever new I went to Amsterdam. :-) Regardz Colin J Davies
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Of all the places I've lived, definitely my favourite! Cheers, Tom Archer Author, Inside C# Please note that the opinions expressed in this correspondence do not necessarily reflect the views of the author.
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When will the US government realize that the Internet is not an American entitiy and thusly is not subject to their out-dated, Victorial beliefs? http://www.cnn.com/2002/TECH/internet/04/17/surveillance.reut/index.html Cheers, Tom Archer Author, Inside C# Please note that the opinions expressed in this correspondence do not necessarily reflect the views of the author.
The trouble with freedom is that it usually ends up being exploited as "freedom to do evil". Here in Canada we had a case of a man who was caught with pornographic stories he had written on his computer depicting kidnap, and graphic sexual torture of children. He was acquitted on the grounds that his work had "inherent artistic merit", and that he had freedom to write whatever he wanted to in the privacy of his own home. I'm all for freedom, but where do you draw the line? What happens if this same guy really does kidnap and sexually torture a young boy? Would that be consider "performance art" by the liberals of society? Once again the protection of the rights of criminals has outweighed the protection of society. :mad: Anyway, just another frustrated kevnar rant. Why not throw away a dime? I throw away ten pennies all the time.
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my god ... you mean its not american??? do you think george knows this?? --- situations to avoid #37:
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Tom Archer wrote: American citizen do these laws apply to me if the server isn't on US soil? If you're an american citizen, it doesn't matter where the server or you are located; you must follow the US law and the law of the country you live in. If you live in the US your citizenship doesn't matter you have to follow US law. Tom Archer wrote: Also, in my particular case I have dual citizenship I have dual citizenship too and it just means that there's two sets of laws to I have to abide to.
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Checkout GUIDGen.NETEddie Velasquez wrote: If you're an american citizen, it doesn't matter where the server or you are located; you must follow the US law and the law of the country you live in. Eddie Velasquez wrote: If you live in the US your citizenship doesn't matter you have to follow US law. I agree with the second quote and not the first. If I am reading it correctly (and that has not always been true) you contradict yourself. If I am a US citizen and living in say Chile I can ignore US law. I know a case where this was the basis and the courts (the judge) ruled they had no jurisdiction. It was a fraud case not internet. To be conscious that you are ignorant of the facts is a great step towards Knowledge. Benjamin Disraeli
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That would just point to David's Rant and Rave posts. :) Tim Smith I know what you're thinking punk, you're thinking did he spell check this document? Well, to tell you the truth I kinda forgot myself in all this excitement. But being this here's CodeProject, the most powerful forums in the world and would blow your head clean off, you've got to ask yourself one question, Do I feel lucky? Well do ya punk?
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Of all the places I've lived, definitely my favourite! Cheers, Tom Archer Author, Inside C# Please note that the opinions expressed in this correspondence do not necessarily reflect the views of the author.
Tom Archer wrote: Of all the places I've lived, definitely my favourite! Yeah, I only visited really, but I did do some street art there and made some easy money etc. Regardz Colin J Davies
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Eddie Velasquez wrote: If you're an american citizen, it doesn't matter where the server or you are located; you must follow the US law and the law of the country you live in. Eddie Velasquez wrote: If you live in the US your citizenship doesn't matter you have to follow US law. I agree with the second quote and not the first. If I am reading it correctly (and that has not always been true) you contradict yourself. If I am a US citizen and living in say Chile I can ignore US law. I know a case where this was the basis and the courts (the judge) ruled they had no jurisdiction. It was a fraud case not internet. To be conscious that you are ignorant of the facts is a great step towards Knowledge. Benjamin Disraeli
Michael A. Barnhart wrote: If I am a US citizen and living in say Chile I can ignore US law No, if you read my post completely, I said that if two laws contradict and you (as a US citizen) decide to go against the US law you should renounce to your US citizenship or face potential consecuences. So I think you misread my post ;) BTW, I am expressing my opinion, not any US law (at least that I am aware of)
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Tom Archer wrote: Of all the places I've lived, definitely my favourite! Yeah, I only visited really, but I did do some street art there and made some easy money etc. Regardz Colin J Davies
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Very cool! Do you have any images of work you've done? Cheers, Tom Archer Author, Inside C# Please note that the opinions expressed in this correspondence do not necessarily reflect the views of the author.
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Very cool! Do you have any images of work you've done? Cheers, Tom Archer Author, Inside C# Please note that the opinions expressed in this correspondence do not necessarily reflect the views of the author.
Tom Archer wrote: Do you have any images of work you've done? Ouch, I haven't touched a chalk pot in years. I'll have a look for some old photos next time I visit my old home and scan them. I don't know if you know Stutgart, but I spent a lot of lucrative Sundays there. :-) My main style was religeous parables. (pays better) :-) Regardz Colin J Davies
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