States of a Nation
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If [God] knows what we are going to do then we have no free will and are just characters in a play written by him. Without free will, morality for humans makes no sense. Without free will and morality, any sort of punishment or reward system loses any justification. Heaven and hell would be places where [God] could watch the souls he created, predestined just for eternal happiness or agony. - Mark Thomas
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If [God] knows what we are going to do then we have no free will and are just characters in a play written by him. Without free will, morality for humans makes no sense. Without free will and morality, any sort of punishment or reward system loses any justification. Heaven and hell would be places where [God] could watch the souls he created, predestined just for eternal happiness or agony. - Mark Thomas
When did Bush say, "Be afraid...Be very afraid"?
"I make up quotes." -Vincent Reynolds
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When did Bush say, "Be afraid...Be very afraid"?
"I make up quotes." -Vincent Reynolds
Oh gee, when does he ever stop?
When was the last time you poured some wine for you and your sweetie and went out on the front porch to watch the geometry frolic on the lake?--Rebecca M. Riordan, Designing Effective Database Systems
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Oh gee, when does he ever stop?
When was the last time you poured some wine for you and your sweetie and went out on the front porch to watch the geometry frolic on the lake?--Rebecca M. Riordan, Designing Effective Database Systems
I don't remember him ever saying that. :~
"I make up quotes." -Vincent Reynolds
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When did Bush say, "Be afraid...Be very afraid"?
"I make up quotes." -Vincent Reynolds
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When did Bush say, "Be afraid...Be very afraid"?
"I make up quotes." -Vincent Reynolds
espeir wrote:
Be afraid...Be very afraid
I haven't heard him say it, but like any good Bible-thumping American, you should have no trouble interpreting his recent speech. 9/5/06 - Bin laden and his terrorists' allies have made their intentions as clear as Lenin and Hitler before them. The question is: Will we listen? Will we pay attention to what these evil men say? 3/13/02 - I don't know where is. You know, I just don't spend that much time on him... I truly am not that concerned about him. 9/13/01 - The most important thing is for us to find Osama bin Laden. It is our number one priority and we will not rest until we find him.
If [God] knows what we are going to do then we have no free will and are just characters in a play written by him. Without free will, morality for humans makes no sense. Without free will and morality, any sort of punishment or reward system loses any justification. Heaven and hell would be places where [God] could watch the souls he created, predestined just for eternal happiness or agony. - Mark Thomas
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espeir wrote:
Be afraid...Be very afraid
I haven't heard him say it, but like any good Bible-thumping American, you should have no trouble interpreting his recent speech. 9/5/06 - Bin laden and his terrorists' allies have made their intentions as clear as Lenin and Hitler before them. The question is: Will we listen? Will we pay attention to what these evil men say? 3/13/02 - I don't know where is. You know, I just don't spend that much time on him... I truly am not that concerned about him. 9/13/01 - The most important thing is for us to find Osama bin Laden. It is our number one priority and we will not rest until we find him.
If [God] knows what we are going to do then we have no free will and are just characters in a play written by him. Without free will, morality for humans makes no sense. Without free will and morality, any sort of punishment or reward system loses any justification. Heaven and hell would be places where [God] could watch the souls he created, predestined just for eternal happiness or agony. - Mark Thomas
Uhhh...I still don't see anything that equates to "be afraid....be very afraid". The first quote says we need to fight them...not be afraid of them (as the left apparently is).
"I make up quotes." -Vincent Reynolds
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Uhhh...I still don't see anything that equates to "be afraid....be very afraid". The first quote says we need to fight them...not be afraid of them (as the left apparently is).
"I make up quotes." -Vincent Reynolds
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Relating to your post above, you'll notice that those links are Democrats attributing fear-mongering to Bush, even though no real evidence of that is there. There might be a few things that people who are scared of the world interpret as "scary" and therefore "fear-mongering", but that attribute belongs moreso to the listener as I've never interpreted Bush's tone as intended to induce fear. In fact...He keeps the "scariest" stuff secret.
"I make up quotes." -Vincent Reynolds
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Relating to your post above, you'll notice that those links are Democrats attributing fear-mongering to Bush, even though no real evidence of that is there. There might be a few things that people who are scared of the world interpret as "scary" and therefore "fear-mongering", but that attribute belongs moreso to the listener as I've never interpreted Bush's tone as intended to induce fear. In fact...He keeps the "scariest" stuff secret.
"I make up quotes." -Vincent Reynolds
espeir wrote:
Relating to your post above, you'll notice that those links are Democrats attributing fear-mongering to Bush, even though no real evidence of that is there. There might be a few things that people who are scared of the world interpret as "scary" and therefore "fear-mongering", but that attribute belongs moreso to the listener as I've never interpreted Bush's tone as intended to induce fear. In fact...He keeps the "scariest" stuff secret.
You have a point there...
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Oh gee, when does he ever stop?
When was the last time you poured some wine for you and your sweetie and went out on the front porch to watch the geometry frolic on the lake?--Rebecca M. Riordan, Designing Effective Database Systems
Jerry Hammond wrote:
Oh gee, when does he ever stop?
find the fucking quote, or is it simply fun to make shit up?
Mike Dear NYT - the fact is, the founding fathers hung traitors. Vincent Reynolds: My opposition is as enlightened as your support, jackass. dennisd45: My view of the world is slightly more nuanced dennisd45 (the NAMBLA supporter) wrote: I know exactly what it means. So shut up you mother killing baby raper.
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Alsvha wrote:
When he was hunting wabbits
that was Carter.
Mike Dear NYT - the fact is, the founding fathers hung traitors. Vincent Reynolds: My opposition is as enlightened as your support, jackass. dennisd45: My view of the world is slightly more nuanced dennisd45 (the NAMBLA supporter) wrote: I know exactly what it means. So shut up you mother killing baby raper.
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Uhhh...I still don't see anything that equates to "be afraid....be very afraid". The first quote says we need to fight them...not be afraid of them (as the left apparently is).
"I make up quotes." -Vincent Reynolds
espeir wrote:
Uhhh...I still don't see anything that equates to "be afraid....be very afraid".
The first quote to me says, "This bin Laden fellow is a really really scary guy, kinda like Hitler and Stalin! The question is, are you going to show your patriotic fear (by voting Republican this fall) or not?"
espeir wrote:
The first quote says we need to fight them...not be afraid of them (as the left apparently is).
The left is afraid? It's the right that's doing the fear mongering and is willing to give up our rights in exchange for safety.
If [God] knows what we are going to do then we have no free will and are just characters in a play written by him. Without free will, morality for humans makes no sense. Without free will and morality, any sort of punishment or reward system loses any justification. Heaven and hell would be places where [God] could watch the souls he created, predestined just for eternal happiness or agony. - Mark Thomas
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espeir wrote:
Uhhh...I still don't see anything that equates to "be afraid....be very afraid".
The first quote to me says, "This bin Laden fellow is a really really scary guy, kinda like Hitler and Stalin! The question is, are you going to show your patriotic fear (by voting Republican this fall) or not?"
espeir wrote:
The first quote says we need to fight them...not be afraid of them (as the left apparently is).
The left is afraid? It's the right that's doing the fear mongering and is willing to give up our rights in exchange for safety.
If [God] knows what we are going to do then we have no free will and are just characters in a play written by him. Without free will, morality for humans makes no sense. Without free will and morality, any sort of punishment or reward system loses any justification. Heaven and hell would be places where [God] could watch the souls he created, predestined just for eternal happiness or agony. - Mark Thomas
Alvaro Mendez wrote:
The first quote to me says, "This bin Laden fellow is a really really scary guy, kinda like Hitler and Stalin! The question is, are you going to show your patriotic fear (by voting Republican this fall) or not?"
:~ Oooo....Kaayyyy.... Like I said, that's not anything near what he said but you decided to incorrectly interpret it that way. Then you turn around and call HIM a fear-mongerer.
Alvaro Mendez wrote:
The left is afraid? It's the right that's doing the fear mongering and is willing to give up our rights in exchange for safety.
Conservatives have confronted and dealt with the threat posed to us. The giving up of rights claim is fear-mongering by the left. The fear-mongering attributed to Bush, as you have just demonstrated, is unfounded.
"I make up quotes." -Vincent Reynolds
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I don't remember him ever saying that. :~
"I make up quotes." -Vincent Reynolds
Oh, you mean those "exact" words. Honestly, don't you think that's being a blind to the fact the king has no clothes?
When was the last time you poured some wine for you and your sweetie and went out on the front porch to watch the geometry frolic on the lake?--Rebecca M. Riordan, Designing Effective Database Systems
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Jerry Hammond wrote:
Oh gee, when does he ever stop?
find the fucking quote, or is it simply fun to make shit up?
Mike Dear NYT - the fact is, the founding fathers hung traitors. Vincent Reynolds: My opposition is as enlightened as your support, jackass. dennisd45: My view of the world is slightly more nuanced dennisd45 (the NAMBLA supporter) wrote: I know exactly what it means. So shut up you mother killing baby raper.
Oh c'mon, you know President Bush has been playing the monster-under-the-bed card way too much to justify far too many things...including the erosion of your liberties and due process rights.
When was the last time you poured some wine for you and your sweetie and went out on the front porch to watch the geometry frolic on the lake?--Rebecca M. Riordan, Designing Effective Database Systems
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Oh, you mean those "exact" words. Honestly, don't you think that's being a blind to the fact the king has no clothes?
When was the last time you poured some wine for you and your sweetie and went out on the front porch to watch the geometry frolic on the lake?--Rebecca M. Riordan, Designing Effective Database Systems
Even similar words. Pointing out the threat that terrorism poses doesn't count, since it's obviously valid. If you don't think so, then you have a very short memory. I'm curious about what you actually believe qualifies as "fear-mongering".
"I make up quotes." -Vincent Reynolds
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Alvaro Mendez wrote:
The first quote to me says, "This bin Laden fellow is a really really scary guy, kinda like Hitler and Stalin! The question is, are you going to show your patriotic fear (by voting Republican this fall) or not?"
:~ Oooo....Kaayyyy.... Like I said, that's not anything near what he said but you decided to incorrectly interpret it that way. Then you turn around and call HIM a fear-mongerer.
Alvaro Mendez wrote:
The left is afraid? It's the right that's doing the fear mongering and is willing to give up our rights in exchange for safety.
Conservatives have confronted and dealt with the threat posed to us. The giving up of rights claim is fear-mongering by the left. The fear-mongering attributed to Bush, as you have just demonstrated, is unfounded.
"I make up quotes." -Vincent Reynolds
I'm a long time Republican (going back to the Regan era) and I find President Bush's use of "threats" to slice away our fundemntal liberties thoroughly scary. So, it isn't just "them lefties" who're concerned, bucko!
When was the last time you poured some wine for you and your sweetie and went out on the front porch to watch the geometry frolic on the lake?--Rebecca M. Riordan, Designing Effective Database Systems
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I'm a long time Republican (going back to the Regan era) and I find President Bush's use of "threats" to slice away our fundemntal liberties thoroughly scary. So, it isn't just "them lefties" who're concerned, bucko!
When was the last time you poured some wine for you and your sweetie and went out on the front porch to watch the geometry frolic on the lake?--Rebecca M. Riordan, Designing Effective Database Systems
If you recall, Reagan painted "The Evil Empire" in a similar (and equally justified) light. Although in Bush's case, we were actually attacked in a very significant way, thereby justifying any and all rhetoric about "threats". But I am still curious as to what you believe constitutes fear-mongering on his part, what civil liberties you believe you have lost and why you believe that referring to the obviously real threat of eminating from the middle east puts Bush in a different boat than FDR, Wilson, Lincoln or any of the founding fathers who all strove to fight enemies of American Freedom.
"I make up quotes." -Vincent Reynolds
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Oh c'mon, you know President Bush has been playing the monster-under-the-bed card way too much to justify far too many things...including the erosion of your liberties and due process rights.
When was the last time you poured some wine for you and your sweetie and went out on the front porch to watch the geometry frolic on the lake?--Rebecca M. Riordan, Designing Effective Database Systems
Jerry Hammond wrote:
President Bush has been playing the monster-under-the-bed card
look, as far as you and others of the same ilk are concerned there is nothing he could do right. if he let up on the terrorist focus and something happened there is no question in my mind that you'd be one of the first posting, "instead of [you pick something to insert here] he should have been doing something to keep this from happening." point in fact, he's doing his job and doing it a damn site better than his predecessors, including Clinton, his father, Reagan and Carter - all presidents that fiddled while we were attacked and made 9-11 possible through inaction.
Mike Dear NYT - the fact is, the founding fathers hung traitors. Vincent Reynolds: My opposition is as enlightened as your support, jackass. dennisd45: My view of the world is slightly more nuanced dennisd45 (the NAMBLA supporter) wrote: I know exactly what it means. So shut up you mother killing baby raper.
