Final Nail in the Bush Coffin?
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Jeremy Falcon wrote:
How many millionaires in the world do you think become president?
Number of millionaires >>>>> number of presidents. How many (recent) presidents have not been millionaires?
Wjousts wrote:
How many (recent) presidents have not been millionaires?
Ok, you do realize you're proving my point?
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enjoy masturbating?
Mike Dear NYT - the fact is, the founding fathers hung traitors. Vincent Reynolds: My opposition is as enlightened as your support, jackass. dennisd45: My view of the world is slightly more nuanced dennisd45 (the NAMBLA supporter) wrote: I know exactly what it means. So shut up you mother killing baby raper.
Mike Gaskey wrote:
enjoy masturbating?
Don't you????
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Alvaro Mendez wrote:
I've been !(rich && famous) all my life. I wouldn't mind changing that.
Changing your "position" based on your own ingenuity or hard work is one thing - people assume you've earned it. Being born rich can be entirely different - the automatic assumption is you were handed everything on a silver platter and you've earned nothing. Ever notice how messed up the children of Hollywood stars typically are?
"Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind." - Dr. Seuss
Mike Mullikin wrote:
Changing your "position" based on your own ingenuity or hard work is one thing - people assume you've earned it. Being born rich can be entirely different - the automatic assumption is you were handed everything on a silver platter and you've earned nothing.
Yeah, that's the _ass_umption. :-) My wife was telling me a story the other day of a very wealthy family she knows, where the parents didn't spoil their children, as they could have easily done. On the contrary, the children received very limited resources and were told that if they wanted more, they would have to work for it (by doing chores, etc.). This taught them the value of money and what it took to earn it. I have a feeling that wealthy parents who spend time learning how to properly raise their kids also follow a similar approach to avoid raising spoiled brats.
Mike Mullikin wrote:
Ever notice how messed up the children of Hollywood stars typically are?
Yeah, the ones on the headlines definitely. Alvaro
If [God] knows what we are going to do then we have no free will and are just characters in a play written by him. Without free will, morality for humans makes no sense. Without free will and morality, any sort of punishment or reward system loses any justification. Heaven and hell would be places where [God] could watch the souls he created, predestined just for eternal happiness or agony. - Mark Thomas
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He can't legally run for another term... a new POTUS at the next election is assured.
"Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind." - Dr. Seuss
Mike Mullikin wrote:
He can't legally run for another term... a new POTUS at the next election is assured.
Yeah, thank The Lord Jesus Christ for that. Amen. :)
If [God] knows what we are going to do then we have no free will and are just characters in a play written by him. Without free will, morality for humans makes no sense. Without free will and morality, any sort of punishment or reward system loses any justification. Heaven and hell would be places where [God] could watch the souls he created, predestined just for eternal happiness or agony. - Mark Thomas
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Diego Moita wrote:
What's the big deal?
How about blaming the wrong person(s) involved or not blaming enough will solve nothing?
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Jeremy Falcon wrote:
How about blaming the wrong person(s) involved or not blaming enough will solve nothing?
Wrong person? Who was the boss, both of the "inteligence" and the army? No one can fix more than 100,000 people dead and 100 billion wasted, but "responsible" still has some meaning in english language, right? Think like this: how many other people's life and money you wasted?
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Jeremy Falcon wrote:
How about blaming the wrong person(s) involved or not blaming enough will solve nothing?
Wrong person? Who was the boss, both of the "inteligence" and the army? No one can fix more than 100,000 people dead and 100 billion wasted, but "responsible" still has some meaning in english language, right? Think like this: how many other people's life and money you wasted?
Don't pray in my school, and I won't think in your church.
Philosophy is questions that may never be answered. Religion is answers that may never be questioned.
Should the leader go down with the ship? I think so. But, you're missing the point. All day long I see people here (mostly dems I should say) bitching about Bush, Bush, Bush. Tell me, just what do you think will make sure something like this will never happen again? If you only blame Bush, you ain't getting it. Also, the president isn't God, there are checks and balances. He just made the call over some screw ups apparently. Only replacing him and only blaming him still leaves the door wide open for those screw ups to repeat.
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Mike Gaskey wrote:
enjoy masturbating?
Don't you????
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Rob Manderson wrote:
Don't you????
He's catholic if memory serves me right.. Every sperm is sacred!!![^]
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Jeremy Falcon wrote:
Perhaps he was speaking in a similar vein as what he was replying to.
correct. I was replying to the constant drum beat of, pick one, Bush lied, Bush stole the election, Bush is trying to frighten us, Bush is stealing our rights, Bush is deflowering our women (wait, wrong guy). In this particular case, the non-Al Q. connection is old news and is totally irrelevant. More over you can't trust the accuracy of the report.
Mike Dear NYT - the fact is, the founding fathers hung traitors. Vincent Reynolds: My opposition is as enlightened as your support, jackass. dennisd45: My view of the world is slightly more nuanced dennisd45 (the NAMBLA supporter) wrote: I know exactly what it means. So shut up you mother killing baby raper.
Mike Gaskey wrote:
In this particular case, the non-Al Q. connection is old news and is totally irrelevant
Can you say MONICA LEWINSKY! I have major conservative values but even so it is still horribly obvious that the right-wing really does suck hypocrisy through a fire hose.
"Alot of the people on this forum are incredibly stupid, thinking that the internet is real"
Score: 1.0 in the Soap Boxled mike
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Should the leader go down with the ship? I think so. But, you're missing the point. All day long I see people here (mostly dems I should say) bitching about Bush, Bush, Bush. Tell me, just what do you think will make sure something like this will never happen again? If you only blame Bush, you ain't getting it. Also, the president isn't God, there are checks and balances. He just made the call over some screw ups apparently. Only replacing him and only blaming him still leaves the door wide open for those screw ups to repeat.
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Jeremy Falcon wrote:
All day long I see people here (mostly dems I should say) bitching about Bush, Bush, Bush.
For how many months or years did we see all day long people (mostly republicans) bitching about MONICA LEWINSKY! And what the fuck did that have to do with running the country. Not a single thing. Now you want to blame democrats for not approving of the way GWB is running the free world? :wtf: Get a fucking grip!
"Alot of the people on this forum are incredibly stupid, thinking that the internet is real"
Score: 1.0 in the Soap Boxled mike
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Ed Gadziemski wrote:
Final Nail in the Bush Coffin?
You are dreaming, he a blood sucking Vampire! Nails in his coffin don't mean shit! ;)
"Alot of the people on this forum are incredibly stupid, thinking that the internet is real"
Score: 1.0 in the Soap Boxled mike
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Should the leader go down with the ship? I think so. But, you're missing the point. All day long I see people here (mostly dems I should say) bitching about Bush, Bush, Bush. Tell me, just what do you think will make sure something like this will never happen again? If you only blame Bush, you ain't getting it. Also, the president isn't God, there are checks and balances. He just made the call over some screw ups apparently. Only replacing him and only blaming him still leaves the door wide open for those screw ups to repeat.
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Jeremy Falcon wrote:
Also, the president isn't God, there are checks and balances.
He's the commander-in-chief and responsible for the military resources of this nation. If you now want to let him off the hook, so be it, but you'll lose your credibility to blame future democratic or republican commander-in-chiefs for their screw-ups.
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He can't legally run for another term... a new POTUS at the next election is assured.
"Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind." - Dr. Seuss
Truthfully, I blame Congress more than Bush. They abrogated their constitutional authority to declare war and now go around whining "we didn't know he was planning to invade Iraq". What did they think? He was joking?
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Alvaro Mendez wrote:
Dude, think about what you're implying: "Good or bad, stupid or smart", who cares? He's making an impact!
I see your point on this, and perhaps I should've worded that better. It's not like the guy is Hitler. He's trying to do what he thinks is right. If people don't agree, they are welcome to do the same; he'll be out in 2008. He made a choice and is sticking by that. Was it a bad choice, that's what's open for debate. But, I'd rather a president not afraid to act because when the time comes he won't be afraid to act again when protecting this country. But, my real point is, I don't see how somebody can spend all their days bitching about someone else's work/decision. If you care that much, then why not go make a change yourself? What is bitching for years on end gonna solve? This goes both ways btw. I just kinda piggybacked on Ed's thread. I'm getting good at that actually. :laugh:
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Jeremy Falcon wrote:
What is bitching for years on end gonna solve?
It helps you overcome your shy, retiring nature and speak up a little bit. :)
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Wjousts wrote:
How many (recent) presidents have not been millionaires?
Ok, you do realize you're proving my point?
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Jeremy Falcon wrote:
Ok, you do realize you're proving my point?
How do you figure that. Being a millionaire is pretty much a prerequisite for being president. GWB is a millionaire (born that way), so he cleared the first hurdle by default. That's quite an acheivement. Way to go George!
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Jeremy Falcon wrote:
Ok, you do realize you're proving my point?
How do you figure that. Being a millionaire is pretty much a prerequisite for being president. GWB is a millionaire (born that way), so he cleared the first hurdle by default. That's quite an acheivement. Way to go George!
In the point that not all millionaires are president or trying to be. Which suggest it's not a simple jump just because you have money. You make it sound like it's a little hop, skip, and a jump away after you make the moola; it's not.
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Jeremy Falcon wrote:
What is bitching for years on end gonna solve?
It helps you overcome your shy, retiring nature and speak up a little bit. :)
Ed Gadziemski wrote:
It helps you overcome your shy, retiring nature and speak up a little bit.
Funny enough, I can see that.
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Jeremy Falcon wrote:
All day long I see people here (mostly dems I should say) bitching about Bush, Bush, Bush.
For how many months or years did we see all day long people (mostly republicans) bitching about MONICA LEWINSKY! And what the fuck did that have to do with running the country. Not a single thing. Now you want to blame democrats for not approving of the way GWB is running the free world? :wtf: Get a fucking grip!
"Alot of the people on this forum are incredibly stupid, thinking that the internet is real"
Score: 1.0 in the Soap Boxled mike
led mike wrote:
Get a f****ing grip!
Get a clue you argumentative fool. Do you think I stalk the SB every day of my life to read every last thing in here? Perhaps I was doing something with my time. Hell, I don't know what was going on then. I'm making my observations based on what I see, so chill the hell out.
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Jeremy Falcon wrote:
Also, the president isn't God, there are checks and balances.
He's the commander-in-chief and responsible for the military resources of this nation. If you now want to let him off the hook, so be it, but you'll lose your credibility to blame future democratic or republican commander-in-chiefs for their screw-ups.
Ed Gadziemski wrote:
If you now want to let him off the hook, so be it, but you'll lose your credibility to blame future democratic or republican commander-in-chiefs for their screw-ups.
Ed, that's not my point. You want to blame him, then fine. But you're stopping short at where the blaim should go. Pinning just Bush into the corner won't solve the issue that caused what happened.
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Mike Gaskey wrote:
In this particular case, the non-Al Q. connection is old news and is totally irrelevant
Can you say MONICA LEWINSKY! I have major conservative values but even so it is still horribly obvious that the right-wing really does suck hypocrisy through a fire hose.
"Alot of the people on this forum are incredibly stupid, thinking that the internet is real"
Score: 1.0 in the Soap Boxled mike
led mike wrote:
I have major conservative values but even so it is still horribly obvious that the right-wing really does suck hypocrisy through a fire hose.
Anyone of intelligence should know that blanket statements can never be proven to be true.
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Mike Gaskey wrote:
In this particular case, the non-Al Q. connection is old news and is totally irrelevant
Can you say MONICA LEWINSKY! I have major conservative values but even so it is still horribly obvious that the right-wing really does suck hypocrisy through a fire hose.
"Alot of the people on this forum are incredibly stupid, thinking that the internet is real"
Score: 1.0 in the Soap Boxled mike
led mike wrote:
Can you say MONICA LEWINSKY!
yes I can. here goes: Monica Lewinsky. satisfied?
led mike wrote:
it is still horribly obvious that the right-wing really does suck hypocrisy through a fire hose.
no, that was, Monica Lewinsky.
Mike Dear NYT - the fact is, the founding fathers hung traitors. Vincent Reynolds: My opposition is as enlightened as your support, jackass. dennisd45: My view of the world is slightly more nuanced dennisd45 (the NAMBLA supporter) wrote: I know exactly what it means. So shut up you mother killing baby raper.