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How to fake in an interview and succeed?

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  • S Sreenath Madyastha

    OK!! Many company I have seen will do the interview for a, b and c skills. When their actual requirement is for d skill.

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    darkelv
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    Then you have to convince them you are able to pick up a or b in a short time, and have sufficient skill in d. A lot of the time, the company don't expect a candidate to be expert in all the items they listed in the JD.

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    • S Sreenath Madyastha

      I never succeeded in faking myself in an interview neither in my resume ? But some do and succeed !! What makes them to tick ? Is that a talent by birth ?

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      led mike
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      Sreenath Madyastha wrote:

      I never succeeded in faking myself in an interview

      why would you want to fake yourself in an interview? :confused:

      led mike

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        Sreenath Madyastha wrote:

        I never succeeded in faking myself in an interview neither in my resume ? But some do and succeed !! What makes them to tick ? Is that a talent by birth ?

        One of the most frequently asked questions in interviews in India for fresh candidates (just out of college) is : "Will you stay with us for long, if we select you? Or do you think you'd want to jump into a bigger company?" 100% of the candidates answer : "Yes, I'd stay with you for a long time. I want to get the experience of working in a small company" 99% (approximate) of these people jump jobs 3-6 months after they are hired :-)

        Regards, Nish


        Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET (my blog)
        Currently working on C++/CLI in Action for Manning Publications. Also visit the Ultimate Toolbox blog

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        Paul Watson
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        True. Though a little bit of a different situation they asked me that in the interview for my current job and I said I wanted to spin out with the project, not stay with the incubating company. They liked that. Also, being on an annual work permit means it is even likilier I won't be sticking with them. They don't mind though what with being a research firm. People come and go here a lot, not out of disatisfaction but just the way the firm is.

        regards, Paul Watson Ireland FeedHenry needs you

        Shog9 wrote:

        eh, stop bugging me about it, give it a couple of days, see what happens.

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          Sreenath Madyastha wrote:

          I never succeeded in faking myself in an interview

          why would you want to fake yourself in an interview? :confused:

          led mike

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          darkelv
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          Because of competition. If 200 candidates send in the resume, 100 of them claimed they know everything in the JD (and in fact they don't), and the company doesn't really care as long as someone get hired, he'll be in disadvantage. That's life.

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            Sreenath Madyastha wrote:

            I never succeeded in faking myself in an interview

            why would you want to fake yourself in an interview? :confused:

            led mike

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            _AK_
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            And also to get some better package than what they actually deserve. :)

            Best Regards, Apurva Kaushal

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            • N Nish Nishant

              Sreenath Madyastha wrote:

              I never succeeded in faking myself in an interview neither in my resume ? But some do and succeed !! What makes them to tick ? Is that a talent by birth ?

              One of the most frequently asked questions in interviews in India for fresh candidates (just out of college) is : "Will you stay with us for long, if we select you? Or do you think you'd want to jump into a bigger company?" 100% of the candidates answer : "Yes, I'd stay with you for a long time. I want to get the experience of working in a small company" 99% (approximate) of these people jump jobs 3-6 months after they are hired :-)

              Regards, Nish


              Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET (my blog)
              Currently working on C++/CLI in Action for Manning Publications. Also visit the Ultimate Toolbox blog

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              Anand Vivek Srivastava
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              Nishant Sivakumar wrote:

              "Will you stay with us for long, if we select you? Or do you think you'd want to jump into a bigger company?" 100% of the candidates answer : "Yes, I'd stay with you for a long time. I want to get the experience of working in a small company"

              I got that question in my interview, I did not say yes; rather told them that I am out to work, will work with you as long as I am satisfied. I did get the job. (I am a fresh candidate, right out of college)

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              • S Sreenath Madyastha

                I never succeeded in faking myself in an interview neither in my resume ? But some do and succeed !! What makes them to tick ? Is that a talent by birth ?

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                Marc Clifton
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                Sreenath Madyastha wrote:

                What makes them to tick ? Is that a talent by birth ?

                No, it's recognizing that the interview process is 95% BS in most cases, and simply playing a game with the system. Given that, no, I've never faked an interview or my resume because I like to play games with the system in less, erm, obvious ways. ;P Marc

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                • N Nish Nishant

                  What exactly do you mean by faking? To answer, "I am totally a team-person" to "Do you enjoy working in a team?" may not be a 100% honest answer for a lot of people - but they still have to say that. You can't say, "I hate working with other people" and expect to get a job. Another such example is to answer, "I love working for small companies" when asked "Will you stay with us long time, or will you jump to a bigger company?", and to jump at the first opportunity you get. Both the above cases are instances faking (or saying lies), but that's how it is. Of course, it'd be totally wrong (and dumb) to claim to have 7 years of COM experience, if the first time you heard the term was last week.

                  Regards, Nish


                  Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET (my blog)
                  Currently working on C++/CLI in Action for Manning Publications. Also visit the Ultimate Toolbox blog

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                  Jun Du
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                  True. Also, there are differences between lying and not telling. Lying is when you say something false. Not telling is when you don't tell your weakness voluntarily.

                  Best, Jun

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                  • S Sreenath Madyastha

                    I never succeeded in faking myself in an interview neither in my resume ? But some do and succeed !! What makes them to tick ? Is that a talent by birth ?

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                    Michael P Butler
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                    Sreenath Madyastha wrote:

                    I never succeeded in faking myself in an interview neither in my resume ? But some do and succeed !!

                    I've never faked my CV. However because I have a lot of experience in developing and can think fairly fast on my feet, I can usually make the other guy think I know more than I actually do. (This trick usually works best when dealing with people who know less than they think they do)

                    Michael CP Blog [^] Development Blog [^]

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                      Sreenath Madyastha wrote:

                      What makes them to tick ? Is that a talent by birth ?

                      No, it's recognizing that the interview process is 95% BS in most cases, and simply playing a game with the system. Given that, no, I've never faked an interview or my resume because I like to play games with the system in less, erm, obvious ways. ;P Marc

                      Thyme In The Country

                      People are just notoriously impossible. --DavidCrow
                      There's NO excuse for not commenting your code. -- John Simmons / outlaw programmer
                      People who say that they will refactor their code later to make it "good" don't understand refactoring, nor the art and craft of programming. -- Josh Smith

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                      Nish Nishant
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                      Marc Clifton wrote:

                      Given that, no, I've never faked an interview or my resume because I like to play games with the system in less, erm, obvious ways.

                      I can picture you being interviewed, Marc. Sample scenario below :-D Interviewer : Why do you think should we pick you? Marc : You'd have to be fairly stupid not to pick me. Interviewer : Oh (totally confused)

                      Regards, Nish


                      Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET (my blog)
                      Currently working on C++/CLI in Action for Manning Publications. Also visit the Ultimate Toolbox blog

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                        True. Also, there are differences between lying and not telling. Lying is when you say something false. Not telling is when you don't tell your weakness voluntarily.

                        Best, Jun

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                        Nish Nishant
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                        Jun Du wrote:

                        Also, there are differences between lying and not telling. Lying is when you say something false. Not telling is when you don't tell your weakness voluntarily.

                        Agree with you there.

                        Regards, Nish


                        Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET (my blog)
                        Currently working on C++/CLI in Action for Manning Publications. Also visit the Ultimate Toolbox blog

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                        • S Sreenath Madyastha

                          I never succeeded in faking myself in an interview neither in my resume ? But some do and succeed !! What makes them to tick ? Is that a talent by birth ?

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                          John M Drescher
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                          This is why we have our most experienced programmers interview cantidates for programming positions. That way with some crafty questions so that we can easily spot the people who don't have a clue what they are talking about...

                          John

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                            Marc Clifton wrote:

                            Given that, no, I've never faked an interview or my resume because I like to play games with the system in less, erm, obvious ways.

                            I can picture you being interviewed, Marc. Sample scenario below :-D Interviewer : Why do you think should we pick you? Marc : You'd have to be fairly stupid not to pick me. Interviewer : Oh (totally confused)

                            Regards, Nish


                            Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET (my blog)
                            Currently working on C++/CLI in Action for Manning Publications. Also visit the Ultimate Toolbox blog

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                            _AK_
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                            Nishant Sivakumar wrote:

                            Interviewer : Why do you think should we pick you? Marc : You'd have to be fairly stupid not to pick me. Interviewer : Oh (totally confused)

                            Too Hilarious.... :laugh: :laugh:

                            Best Regards, Apurva Kaushal

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                              Marc Clifton wrote:

                              Given that, no, I've never faked an interview or my resume because I like to play games with the system in less, erm, obvious ways.

                              I can picture you being interviewed, Marc. Sample scenario below :-D Interviewer : Why do you think should we pick you? Marc : You'd have to be fairly stupid not to pick me. Interviewer : Oh (totally confused)

                              Regards, Nish


                              Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET (my blog)
                              Currently working on C++/CLI in Action for Manning Publications. Also visit the Ultimate Toolbox blog

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                              Rama Krishna Vavilala
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                              :laugh:


                              Debugging is twice as hard as writing the code in the first place. Therefore, if you write the code as cleverly as possible, you are, by definition, not smart enough to debug it. -Brian Kernighan

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                              • S Sreenath Madyastha

                                I never succeeded in faking myself in an interview neither in my resume ? But some do and succeed !! What makes them to tick ? Is that a talent by birth ?

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                                Ashley van Gerven
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                                They just read loads of articles on thefakeproject.com :)

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                                  Marc Clifton wrote:

                                  Given that, no, I've never faked an interview or my resume because I like to play games with the system in less, erm, obvious ways.

                                  I can picture you being interviewed, Marc. Sample scenario below :-D Interviewer : Why do you think should we pick you? Marc : You'd have to be fairly stupid not to pick me. Interviewer : Oh (totally confused)

                                  Regards, Nish


                                  Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET (my blog)
                                  Currently working on C++/CLI in Action for Manning Publications. Also visit the Ultimate Toolbox blog

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                                  Marc Clifton
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                                  Nishant Sivakumar wrote:

                                  Interviewer : Why do you think should we pick you? Marc : You'd have to be fairly stupid not to pick me. Interviewer : Oh (totally confused)

                                  Quite right, except for the last part. The interview would not be looking confused. ;P Marc

                                  Thyme In The Country

                                  People are just notoriously impossible. --DavidCrow
                                  There's NO excuse for not commenting your code. -- John Simmons / outlaw programmer
                                  People who say that they will refactor their code later to make it "good" don't understand refactoring, nor the art and craft of programming. -- Josh Smith

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                                    Nishant Sivakumar wrote:

                                    Interviewer : Why do you think should we pick you? Marc : You'd have to be fairly stupid not to pick me. Interviewer : Oh (totally confused)

                                    Quite right, except for the last part. The interview would not be looking confused. ;P Marc

                                    Thyme In The Country

                                    People are just notoriously impossible. --DavidCrow
                                    There's NO excuse for not commenting your code. -- John Simmons / outlaw programmer
                                    People who say that they will refactor their code later to make it "good" don't understand refactoring, nor the art and craft of programming. -- Josh Smith

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                                    Nish Nishant
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                                    Marc Clifton wrote:

                                    Quite right, except for the last part. The interview would not be looking confused.

                                    :laugh:

                                    Regards, Nish


                                    Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET (my blog)
                                    Currently working on C++/CLI in Action for Manning Publications. Also visit the Ultimate Toolbox blog

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                                    • S Sreenath Madyastha

                                      I never succeeded in faking myself in an interview neither in my resume ? But some do and succeed !! What makes them to tick ? Is that a talent by birth ?

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                                      Christian Graus
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                                      Consider this. You go to an interview. You lie through your teeth. You get the job. On the first day, they ask you to do the stuff you claimed you could do. How is this good for you ? I NEVER lie in an interview. I have once set my sights on working for a specific company, and I found out the technologies they used, and set out to learn them, but I found out through an interview, and in that first interview, I told them flat out that I had no idea how COM worked ( that was them main issue ). Even then, they followed up and told me I didn't get it only because I didn't have a degree. 18 months later, I interviewed again, and got the job ( the non degree was still an issue, but I knew COM this time around ). My first ever job was for a company who did a DirectX app, and I was clear in the interview that I knew no DX, I stressed the fact. As far as I can see, programming is about being able to learn stuff. If you demonstrate that you know how to program, and that you're motivated, then that's what matters most, but either way, honesty is the only way to go. If you lie, you'll be found out, and if you create a precedent, you'll probably find it easiest to keep lying, which can only frustrate your employer and make you a bad person to have on the job.

                                      Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog

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