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    BorysBe
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    I understand that not everything is free. Linux is free? ok:) Microsoft is not cheap - you know :rolleyes: - but this is not a reason to hate it. Moreover... I think that DirectX will never die. Why? Computer games. Is anyone creating good games for Linux using OpenGL? :wtf:

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      I understand that not everything is free. Linux is free? ok:) Microsoft is not cheap - you know :rolleyes: - but this is not a reason to hate it. Moreover... I think that DirectX will never die. Why? Computer games. Is anyone creating good games for Linux using OpenGL? :wtf:

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      AbhishekBK
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      BorysBe wrote:

      I think that DirectX will never die.

      DirectX... what is that? We dont need that kind of stuff to play games in Linux. We have GPL you know. We play with code. And with someone else's right to exist.

      Abhishek It is impossible to change your past. But it is very possible to ruin your present by worring about the future. -Chankya

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      • B BorysBe

        I understand that not everything is free. Linux is free? ok:) Microsoft is not cheap - you know :rolleyes: - but this is not a reason to hate it. Moreover... I think that DirectX will never die. Why? Computer games. Is anyone creating good games for Linux using OpenGL? :wtf:

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        Rohde
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        BorysBe wrote:

        Microsoft is not cheap - you know - but this is not a reason to hate it.

        Agreed. But it's no reason to love it either.

        BorysBe wrote:

        I think that DirectX will never die. Why? Computer games. Is anyone creating good games for Linux using OpenGL?

        Well, some is creating good games for the PC using OpenGL. You do know that right?

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          I understand that not everything is free. Linux is free? ok:) Microsoft is not cheap - you know :rolleyes: - but this is not a reason to hate it. Moreover... I think that DirectX will never die. Why? Computer games. Is anyone creating good games for Linux using OpenGL? :wtf:

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          Anand Vivek Srivastava
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          A bit dated but still very relevant and true. -- Why Windows is better than Linux Jon Hamkins (c) 1997 - hamkins@ugcs.caltech.edu Because of the harsh attacks on Dave Hewson recently, I have prepared a summary of the technical reasons why I find 95/NT better than Linux: Because all operating systems are written by programmers, I assume that any operating system is much smarter than me. Thus, any good operating system should try to outsmart me by restricting my options at every turn. Linux, like all versions of Unix, is lousy at restricting my options because at the command line virtually any operation can be performed with ease. (For example, 'rm -rf /win' could 'delete an entire mounted directory, with no popup window warnings whatsoever.) I'm proud to say that there is no such danger in 95/NT. Windows pop up when I want to make a change, and then more pop up to ask if I'm sure I want the change. Thankfully, Windows 95/NT operating systems look after my computer's well-being by occasionally switching configuration settings from the way I want them to what the OS programmers think they might probably ought to be. Boy, I'm just impressed with how smart they are. Once I learned to live with whatever the default settings are on any new hardware I install, I can't say the number of hours I have saved. I use that spare time to reboot my Windows machine multiple times a day. Technical support personnel recommend that I do it regularly-- kind of like brushing my teeth. To help remind me of this necessity, windows pop up to tell me to reboot whenever I make a configuration change. By now my machine is minty fresh, I figure. There is no such useful rebooting in a Linux system. It is as reliable as the sunrise, with uptimes in weeks and months. Virtually no configuration change requires a reboot, to boot. Imagine all that plaque in the computer. Gross! In 95/NT I am prevented from making dangerous fundamental configuration changes unless I use a special "registry editor". I have found it so useful to have this separate editor that I hope in future versions they go all the way and supply a separate editor for each file on the disk-- in that way windows could pop up at every keystroke to warn me that changing any line in the file I am editing could cause the system to not run properly. If this were only the case, people would finally learn that it is best to just stick with the mouse and they would be freed of the need to constantly move their hands back to th

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          • B BorysBe

            I understand that not everything is free. Linux is free? ok:) Microsoft is not cheap - you know :rolleyes: - but this is not a reason to hate it. Moreover... I think that DirectX will never die. Why? Computer games. Is anyone creating good games for Linux using OpenGL? :wtf:

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            wout de zeeuw
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            Technically they have the power and talent to make things work. I just find it a pity that their business tactics are unethical, they really don't need to do that with the amount of money they got. So they don't have my sympathy.

            Wout

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              BorysBe wrote:

              Microsoft is not cheap - you know - but this is not a reason to hate it.

              Agreed. But it's no reason to love it either.

              BorysBe wrote:

              I think that DirectX will never die. Why? Computer games. Is anyone creating good games for Linux using OpenGL?

              Well, some is creating good games for the PC using OpenGL. You do know that right?

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              BorysBe
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              I'm not expert:->, but I think that OpenGL is less powerful than DirectX. With DirectX you can create more. Or not ?:confused:

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              • B BorysBe

                I understand that not everything is free. Linux is free? ok:) Microsoft is not cheap - you know :rolleyes: - but this is not a reason to hate it. Moreover... I think that DirectX will never die. Why? Computer games. Is anyone creating good games for Linux using OpenGL? :wtf:

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                El Corazon
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                BorysBe wrote:

                Is anyone creating good games for Linux using OpenGL?

                I don't know about games... but does controlling remote controlled unmanned aircraft in 3D with natural terrain settings count? It's openGL, but it is also cross-platform. I do not ignore Microsoft Operating systems, I neither hate them, nor love them, they just exist as do other options. What my customers want, that is all I really care about. If they hate Microsoft and want Linux, I give them Linux. If they hate Linux and want Windows, I give them Windows. If they don't care either way, I load the platform that has the greatest performance, as tested, that month. I don't expect DirectX will die, but neither will OpenGL.

                _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)

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                • B BorysBe

                  I understand that not everything is free. Linux is free? ok:) Microsoft is not cheap - you know :rolleyes: - but this is not a reason to hate it. Moreover... I think that DirectX will never die. Why? Computer games. Is anyone creating good games for Linux using OpenGL? :wtf:

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                  Super Lloyd
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                  Don't bother, let bark the dog of war and happily enjoy programing for a platform with a big market and powerfull programing tools... ;)

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                    I'm not expert:->, but I think that OpenGL is less powerful than DirectX. With DirectX you can create more. Or not ?:confused:

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                    Super Lloyd
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                    Certainly. But OpenGL is not so bad you know! And quite powerfull in its own right too! Heck, you could run Quake 4 with an OpenGL interface on MacOSX!!

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                    • A AbhishekBK

                      BorysBe wrote:

                      I think that DirectX will never die.

                      DirectX... what is that? We dont need that kind of stuff to play games in Linux. We have GPL you know. We play with code. And with someone else's right to exist.

                      Abhishek It is impossible to change your past. But it is very possible to ruin your present by worring about the future. -Chankya

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                      QuiJohn
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                      AbhishekBK wrote:

                      We have GPL you know. We play with code.

                      I am very happy something like the GPL exists. I think it serves a great purpose, and is an invaluable learning tool. Heck, one of my PC's at home is currently running Linux (and doing some folding). I am also glad there are people in this world who have spare time to donate without any hope of being compensated. I am not one of those people, and I do not feel guilty about it.

                      AbhishekBK wrote:

                      And with someone else's right to exist.

                      I cannot even beging to understand what you might mean by this.

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                      • B BorysBe

                        I understand that not everything is free. Linux is free? ok:) Microsoft is not cheap - you know :rolleyes: - but this is not a reason to hate it. Moreover... I think that DirectX will never die. Why? Computer games. Is anyone creating good games for Linux using OpenGL? :wtf:

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                        Dario Solera
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                        ... but another one. It seems that all the people is beginning to believe that all the software must be free and/or opensource, because "the knowledge must be free" and things like that. OK, lets say all the software is free and opensource. No one is going to pay the developers, because no company is going to gain money by producing software given away for free, then the developers couldn't survive with their work, then no one is going to write software. DEVELOPERS MUST BE PAYED! All the big opensource projects, from the Linux kernel to Mono, are sponsored by some huge company, say Novell, IBM, and the like. They actually PAY the developers. But they also SELL other (close-source) products, so they can eventually afford to give some money to the OS devs. I know I'm going OT, but I really hate people who wants every software for free. I am a developer, I even develop an opensource project, but I want to get paid for my work. How many opensource developers actually live on their job? Only a few (the ones developing the Linux kernel, Gnome, KDE and the like). All the others develop in their free time, while having a paid job, maybe at Microsoft. I'm really off-topic now. :-O

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                          I understand that not everything is free. Linux is free? ok:) Microsoft is not cheap - you know :rolleyes: - but this is not a reason to hate it. Moreover... I think that DirectX will never die. Why? Computer games. Is anyone creating good games for Linux using OpenGL? :wtf:

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                          gus_br
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                          this discussion isn`t worth. everyone know the down and upsides about each OS. linux is cool, but sometimes i`m lazy and don`t like to suffer a lot to do a simple thing. on the other hand, with this laziness i lose a great deal of frexibility. btw, games are made for windows and not linux.

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                            BorysBe wrote:

                            I think that DirectX will never die.

                            DirectX... what is that? We dont need that kind of stuff to play games in Linux. We have GPL you know. We play with code. And with someone else's right to exist.

                            Abhishek It is impossible to change your past. But it is very possible to ruin your present by worring about the future. -Chankya

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                            Ryan Binns
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                            AbhishekBK wrote:

                            GPL

                            :vomit:

                            Ryan

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                            • B BorysBe

                              I understand that not everything is free. Linux is free? ok:) Microsoft is not cheap - you know :rolleyes: - but this is not a reason to hate it. Moreover... I think that DirectX will never die. Why? Computer games. Is anyone creating good games for Linux using OpenGL? :wtf:

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                              BorysBe
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                              It is possible to emulate DirectX in Linux?:~

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                              • B BorysBe

                                I understand that not everything is free. Linux is free? ok:) Microsoft is not cheap - you know :rolleyes: - but this is not a reason to hate it. Moreover... I think that DirectX will never die. Why? Computer games. Is anyone creating good games for Linux using OpenGL? :wtf:

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                                subai
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                                I like Microsoft too, and we call bill gates chief between us , however i like open source too

                                I Wish the Life Had CTRL-Z

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                                  ... but another one. It seems that all the people is beginning to believe that all the software must be free and/or opensource, because "the knowledge must be free" and things like that. OK, lets say all the software is free and opensource. No one is going to pay the developers, because no company is going to gain money by producing software given away for free, then the developers couldn't survive with their work, then no one is going to write software. DEVELOPERS MUST BE PAYED! All the big opensource projects, from the Linux kernel to Mono, are sponsored by some huge company, say Novell, IBM, and the like. They actually PAY the developers. But they also SELL other (close-source) products, so they can eventually afford to give some money to the OS devs. I know I'm going OT, but I really hate people who wants every software for free. I am a developer, I even develop an opensource project, but I want to get paid for my work. How many opensource developers actually live on their job? Only a few (the ones developing the Linux kernel, Gnome, KDE and the like). All the others develop in their free time, while having a paid job, maybe at Microsoft. I'm really off-topic now. :-O

                                  ________________________________________________ Personal Blog [ITA] - Tech Blog [ENG] Developing ScrewTurn Wiki 1.1 and its Plugin Framework

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                                  Anand Vivek Srivastava
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                                  You forgot google, didn't you? free software does not mean the developers are not going to be paid. just that the money is going to come from somewhere else. And it takes smart people to figure out from where. Enterprise be-spoke solutions and services are never going to be free, now the customer support, but software that comes with no support and possible funded by adverts can easily be made free.

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                                    A bit dated but still very relevant and true. -- Why Windows is better than Linux Jon Hamkins (c) 1997 - hamkins@ugcs.caltech.edu Because of the harsh attacks on Dave Hewson recently, I have prepared a summary of the technical reasons why I find 95/NT better than Linux: Because all operating systems are written by programmers, I assume that any operating system is much smarter than me. Thus, any good operating system should try to outsmart me by restricting my options at every turn. Linux, like all versions of Unix, is lousy at restricting my options because at the command line virtually any operation can be performed with ease. (For example, 'rm -rf /win' could 'delete an entire mounted directory, with no popup window warnings whatsoever.) I'm proud to say that there is no such danger in 95/NT. Windows pop up when I want to make a change, and then more pop up to ask if I'm sure I want the change. Thankfully, Windows 95/NT operating systems look after my computer's well-being by occasionally switching configuration settings from the way I want them to what the OS programmers think they might probably ought to be. Boy, I'm just impressed with how smart they are. Once I learned to live with whatever the default settings are on any new hardware I install, I can't say the number of hours I have saved. I use that spare time to reboot my Windows machine multiple times a day. Technical support personnel recommend that I do it regularly-- kind of like brushing my teeth. To help remind me of this necessity, windows pop up to tell me to reboot whenever I make a configuration change. By now my machine is minty fresh, I figure. There is no such useful rebooting in a Linux system. It is as reliable as the sunrise, with uptimes in weeks and months. Virtually no configuration change requires a reboot, to boot. Imagine all that plaque in the computer. Gross! In 95/NT I am prevented from making dangerous fundamental configuration changes unless I use a special "registry editor". I have found it so useful to have this separate editor that I hope in future versions they go all the way and supply a separate editor for each file on the disk-- in that way windows could pop up at every keystroke to warn me that changing any line in the file I am editing could cause the system to not run properly. If this were only the case, people would finally learn that it is best to just stick with the mouse and they would be freed of the need to constantly move their hands back to th

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                                    :laugh: Can't believe why you were voted down, that was hilarious.


                                    Google it. If that fails then start a :badger::badger::badger: dance.

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                                      You forgot google, didn't you? free software does not mean the developers are not going to be paid. just that the money is going to come from somewhere else. And it takes smart people to figure out from where. Enterprise be-spoke solutions and services are never going to be free, now the customer support, but software that comes with no support and possible funded by adverts can easily be made free.

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                                      Anand Vivek Srivastava wrote:

                                      software that comes with no support and possible funded by adverts can easily be made free.

                                      X|

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                                        I'm not expert:->, but I think that OpenGL is less powerful than DirectX. With DirectX you can create more. Or not ?:confused:

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                                        Not correct. You can't really compare OpenGL to DirectX since OGL is a graphics API and DX is a whole slew of APIs. But OpenGL and Direct3D (the graphics part of DX) is pretty much comparable to each other. As an axample Doom 3 is OGL based.

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                                          Not correct. You can't really compare OpenGL to DirectX since OGL is a graphics API and DX is a whole slew of APIs. But OpenGL and Direct3D (the graphics part of DX) is pretty much comparable to each other. As an axample Doom 3 is OGL based.

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                                          Mass Nerder
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                                          Rohde wrote:

                                          You can't really compare OpenGL to DirectX since OGL is a graphics API and DX is a whole slew of APIs. But OpenGL and Direct3D (the graphics part of DX) is pretty much comparable to each other. As an axample Doom 3 is OGL based.

                                          ...and not forget the great FuturePinball!

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