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  • R Rob Graham

    Your comments and opinions might be appropriate in the soapbox, but in response to someone celebrating their choice to become a citizen, they are ignorat and rude. You remain two letters short.

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    Then explain to me how my comments, by starting with I mean no offense, are rude, and why my opinion should be in the soap-box while yours, calling me rude and ignorant, are worthy of the lounge.


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      I mean no offense, but why would you want, or need, to be a US Citizen? As one myself, I'm ashamed of this country and the way we (in general) treat the rest of the world. BTW, I've spent about 10 years in the past living outside the US so I think I have a somewhat outsider's viewpoint.


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      Mark Nischalke wrote:

      why would you want, or need, to be a US Citizen

      Hmmm, interesting questions. I've lived here nearly four years; will be living here, hopefully, many more. Whilst I wouldn't say living here as an 'alien' is all that tough, surely there's merit in choosing to become a part of the society in which I now, by choice, live?

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      I've spent about 10 years in the past living outside the US

      Yeah, and I spent a bit over 48 years living outside the US. I think I definitely qualify as having an outsiders viewpoint! Without wanting to tread on soapbox territory I'd posit that the outsiders view of the US (as a global power) is just as (in)accurate as the view of the most insular US inhabitant who's never been out of the country. Most of the 'Americans' I work and socialise with in my day to day life are fine upstanding folk - why wouldn't I want to become a part of that?

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      need, to be a US Citizen

      One word: enfranchisement. Having had the vote for 30 years in Australia it was quite difficult, on polling day, to be unable to vote. This gives me the right to cast a vote in the community of which I'm a part. It also gives me license to hold and express views about local and national politics.

      Rob Manderson I'm working on a version for Visual Lisp++ My blog http://blogs.wdevs.com/ultramaroon/[^] My blog mirror http://robmanderson.blogspot.com[^]

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        I mean no offense, but why would you want, or need, to be a US Citizen? As one myself, I'm ashamed of this country and the way we (in general) treat the rest of the world. BTW, I've spent about 10 years in the past living outside the US so I think I have a somewhat outsider's viewpoint.


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        Go to hell.

        =====Brain melting code===== static int Sqrt(int x){ if (x<0) throw new ArgumentOutOfRangeException(); int temp, y=0, b=0x8000, bshft=15, v=x; do { if (v>=(temp=(y<<1)+b<>=1)>0); return y; :omg: ====TSI TLFL EEOOLHTG===== ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Decode that and you will win.;P ============Hint=========== cout << "33 20 57 4F 52 44 53 62 63 6B 77 6F 72 64 73";

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          Then explain to me how my comments, by starting with I mean no offense, are rude, and why my opinion should be in the soap-box while yours, calling me rude and ignorant, are worthy of the lounge.


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          Mark Nischalke wrote:

          Then explain to me how my comments, by starting with I mean no offense, are rude, and why my opinion should be in the soap-box while yours, calling me rude and ignorant, are worthy of the lounge.

          Ok, here's an example. Now, I don't mean any offense here, but you're a douche bag. See how that works? I didn't mean to be offensive by calling you a douche bag, but you may well take it in a negative light. I'm sorry about that, but I'm just trying to give my opinion...No offense intended.

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            Go to hell.

            =====Brain melting code===== static int Sqrt(int x){ if (x<0) throw new ArgumentOutOfRangeException(); int temp, y=0, b=0x8000, bshft=15, v=x; do { if (v>=(temp=(y<<1)+b<>=1)>0); return y; :omg: ====TSI TLFL EEOOLHTG===== ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Decode that and you will win.;P ============Hint=========== cout << "33 20 57 4F 52 44 53 62 63 6B 77 6F 72 64 73";

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            Ah, a true expression of the principles of freedom of speech. When ones opinion is not agreeable, don't seek to understand or open the mind, simply curse and dismiss them. BTW, Hell is in Michigan. Been there. ;P


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              Ah, a true expression of the principles of freedom of speech. When ones opinion is not agreeable, don't seek to understand or open the mind, simply curse and dismiss them. BTW, Hell is in Michigan. Been there. ;P


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              Mark Nischalke wrote:

              . When ones opinion is not agreeable, don't seek to understand or open the mind, simply curse and dismiss them.

              I will not agree to insulting my own country (America). I wouldnt want to live anywere else.

              =====Brain melting code===== static int Sqrt(int x){ if (x<0) throw new ArgumentOutOfRangeException(); int temp, y=0, b=0x8000, bshft=15, v=x; do { if (v>=(temp=(y<<1)+b<>=1)>0); return y; :omg: ====TSI TLFL EEOOLHTG===== ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Decode that and you will win.;P ============Hint=========== cout << "33 20 57 4F 52 44 53 62 63 6B 77 6F 72 64 73";

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              • J JBurkey

                Mark Nischalke wrote:

                Then explain to me how my comments, by starting with I mean no offense, are rude, and why my opinion should be in the soap-box while yours, calling me rude and ignorant, are worthy of the lounge.

                Ok, here's an example. Now, I don't mean any offense here, but you're a douche bag. See how that works? I didn't mean to be offensive by calling you a douche bag, but you may well take it in a negative light. I'm sorry about that, but I'm just trying to give my opinion...No offense intended.

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                JBurkey wrote:

                See how that works?

                Rubbish. Where was his personal attack on you? He said that he was ashamed of his country and the way that it has treated the rest of the world i.e. it's simply his opinion which he is both entitled to and free to state. Now, if you take it as a personal insult that somebody could possibly think that there is anything bad about your country, that's really your problem. His post simply stated his opinion, with no intent to offend (as opposed to yours).


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                • R Rob Manderson

                  Mark Nischalke wrote:

                  why would you want, or need, to be a US Citizen

                  Hmmm, interesting questions. I've lived here nearly four years; will be living here, hopefully, many more. Whilst I wouldn't say living here as an 'alien' is all that tough, surely there's merit in choosing to become a part of the society in which I now, by choice, live?

                  Mark Nischalke wrote:

                  I've spent about 10 years in the past living outside the US

                  Yeah, and I spent a bit over 48 years living outside the US. I think I definitely qualify as having an outsiders viewpoint! Without wanting to tread on soapbox territory I'd posit that the outsiders view of the US (as a global power) is just as (in)accurate as the view of the most insular US inhabitant who's never been out of the country. Most of the 'Americans' I work and socialise with in my day to day life are fine upstanding folk - why wouldn't I want to become a part of that?

                  Mark Nischalke wrote:

                  need, to be a US Citizen

                  One word: enfranchisement. Having had the vote for 30 years in Australia it was quite difficult, on polling day, to be unable to vote. This gives me the right to cast a vote in the community of which I'm a part. It also gives me license to hold and express views about local and national politics.

                  Rob Manderson I'm working on a version for Visual Lisp++ My blog http://blogs.wdevs.com/ultramaroon/[^] My blog mirror http://robmanderson.blogspot.com[^]

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                  Thank you. Now I understand another view point. It's a remarkable thing when different people can share thoughts and opinions and open their minds to different thoughts and viewpoints, all without resorting to insults, name calling, flaming, and least of all guns and bombs.

                  Rob Manderson wrote:

                  This gives me the right to cast a vote in the community of which I'm a part.

                  With that, I do say welcome, and use your power wisely.


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                  • L Lost User

                    Mark Nischalke wrote:

                    . When ones opinion is not agreeable, don't seek to understand or open the mind, simply curse and dismiss them.

                    I will not agree to insulting my own country (America). I wouldnt want to live anywere else.

                    =====Brain melting code===== static int Sqrt(int x){ if (x<0) throw new ArgumentOutOfRangeException(); int temp, y=0, b=0x8000, bshft=15, v=x; do { if (v>=(temp=(y<<1)+b<>=1)>0); return y; :omg: ====TSI TLFL EEOOLHTG===== ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Decode that and you will win.;P ============Hint=========== cout << "33 20 57 4F 52 44 53 62 63 6B 77 6F 72 64 73";

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                    And where was the insult? I was stating my opinion. Now on the other hand telling someone to "go to hell" can not be interpreted as anything more than an insult to the person it was directed at, not an opinion.


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                    • J JBurkey

                      Mark Nischalke wrote:

                      Then explain to me how my comments, by starting with I mean no offense, are rude, and why my opinion should be in the soap-box while yours, calling me rude and ignorant, are worthy of the lounge.

                      Ok, here's an example. Now, I don't mean any offense here, but you're a douche bag. See how that works? I didn't mean to be offensive by calling you a douche bag, but you may well take it in a negative light. I'm sorry about that, but I'm just trying to give my opinion...No offense intended.

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                      And no offense taken. See how that works.

                      JBurkey wrote:

                      Now, I don't mean any offense here, but you're a douche bag.

                      Where as my comment asked a question, yours clearly has the direct intent to inflame.


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                        And where was the insult? I was stating my opinion. Now on the other hand telling someone to "go to hell" can not be interpreted as anything more than an insult to the person it was directed at, not an opinion.


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                        Mark Nischalke wrote:

                        And where was the insult? I was stating my opinion. Now on the other hand telling someone to "go to hell" can not be interpreted as anything more than an insult to the person it was directed at, not an opinion.

                        You asking the new American why he would want to live here and insulting the country is an insult dressed up as an opinion, a lousy one too. I don't care for you smart ass remarks.

                        =====Brain melting code===== static int Sqrt(int x){ if (x<0) throw new ArgumentOutOfRangeException(); int temp, y=0, b=0x8000, bshft=15, v=x; do { if (v>=(temp=(y<<1)+b<>=1)>0); return y; :omg: ====TSI TLFL EEOOLHTG===== ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Decode that and you will win.;P ============Hint=========== cout << "33 20 57 4F 52 44 53 62 63 6B 77 6F 72 64 73";

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                        • L Lost User

                          Mark Nischalke wrote:

                          And where was the insult? I was stating my opinion. Now on the other hand telling someone to "go to hell" can not be interpreted as anything more than an insult to the person it was directed at, not an opinion.

                          You asking the new American why he would want to live here and insulting the country is an insult dressed up as an opinion, a lousy one too. I don't care for you smart ass remarks.

                          =====Brain melting code===== static int Sqrt(int x){ if (x<0) throw new ArgumentOutOfRangeException(); int temp, y=0, b=0x8000, bshft=15, v=x; do { if (v>=(temp=(y<<1)+b<>=1)>0); return y; :omg: ====TSI TLFL EEOOLHTG===== ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Decode that and you will win.;P ============Hint=========== cout << "33 20 57 4F 52 44 53 62 63 6B 77 6F 72 64 73";

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                          Henize wrote:

                          You asking the new American why he would want to live here

                          No, I asked why he chose to become a citizen, not why he wanted to live here. He was already living here.

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                          insulting the country

                          Again, where was the insult? I only said I was ashamed of the way the US treats others in the world. Why is my shame insulting to you?

                          Henize wrote:

                          I don't care for you smart ass remarks.

                          Yes, the King of England didn't care for the remarks of Jefferson, Franklin, Paine, and others, but the Declaration of Independence was signed anyway and you can see where that lead.


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                            Henize wrote:

                            You asking the new American why he would want to live here

                            No, I asked why he chose to become a citizen, not why he wanted to live here. He was already living here.

                            Henize wrote:

                            insulting the country

                            Again, where was the insult? I only said I was ashamed of the way the US treats others in the world. Why is my shame insulting to you?

                            Henize wrote:

                            I don't care for you smart ass remarks.

                            Yes, the King of England didn't care for the remarks of Jefferson, Franklin, Paine, and others, but the Declaration of Independence was signed anyway and you can see where that lead.


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                            What?

                            =====Brain melting code===== static int Sqrt(int x){ if (x<0) throw new ArgumentOutOfRangeException(); int temp, y=0, b=0x8000, bshft=15, v=x; do { if (v>=(temp=(y<<1)+b<>=1)>0); return y; :omg: ====TSI TLFL EEOOLHTG===== ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Decode that and you will win.;P ============Hint=========== cout << "33 20 57 4F 52 44 53 62 63 6B 77 6F 72 64 73";

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                            • R Rob Manderson

                              started the day as an alien, finish it as a US Citizen :cool::cool: Now to register to vote, update my record with Social Security and enjoy a celebratory dinner with my wife! :)

                              Rob Manderson I'm working on a version for Visual Lisp++ My blog http://blogs.wdevs.com/ultramaroon/[^] My blog mirror http://robmanderson.blogspot.com[^]

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                              Congrats, Rob! :beer:

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                              • R Rob Manderson

                                started the day as an alien, finish it as a US Citizen :cool::cool: Now to register to vote, update my record with Social Security and enjoy a celebratory dinner with my wife! :)

                                Rob Manderson I'm working on a version for Visual Lisp++ My blog http://blogs.wdevs.com/ultramaroon/[^] My blog mirror http://robmanderson.blogspot.com[^]

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                                Congratulations, Rob! May you always remember the feelings you had today, and continue to exercise the responsibilities as well as the rights that citizenship provides with the same grace, calm and reason that you clearly are showing here today. Regards - Trish

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                                  I mean no offense, but why would you want, or need, to be a US Citizen? As one myself, I'm ashamed of this country and the way we (in general) treat the rest of the world. BTW, I've spent about 10 years in the past living outside the US so I think I have a somewhat outsider's viewpoint.


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                                  I met a lovely old US couple on vacations. They said: "We are proud of our country, but ashamed of our government". And that's - for my outsider view - is exactly on the spot.


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                                  • S Shog9 0

                                    Rob Manderson wrote:

                                    liver, onions and bacon

                                    That sounds really good... apart from the liver. Hope you have a good time :)

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                                    apart from the liver

                                    Agreed. My mother-in-law occasionally makes liver and onions. It smells great, looks good. One bite and X|.


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                                    • E Ed Gadziemski

                                      Rob Manderson wrote:

                                      started the day as an alien, finish it as a US Citizen

                                      What you talking 'bout? There ain't no aliens here in Arizona. :) Congratulations on becoming a citizen. It's wonderful to be part of one of the greatest nations on the planet. It's also nice to know you're planning to vote. Now we can blame you for our elected officials. :)


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                                      Ed Gadziemski wrote:

                                      no aliens here in Arizona

                                      After all, Roswell is in New Mexico, right? :rimshot:


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                                        Congrats! Just remember that April 15th is an undeclared national holiday. :badger:

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                                        More like a national day of mourning :((. Last year I paid more in federal income taxes than my entire salary the first year after I graduated from college :mad:.


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                                          I mean no offense, but why would you want, or need, to be a US Citizen? As one myself, I'm ashamed of this country and the way we (in general) treat the rest of the world. BTW, I've spent about 10 years in the past living outside the US so I think I have a somewhat outsider's viewpoint.


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                                          Then perhaps you should consider taking up citizenship elsewhere. There are no perfect nations.

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