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    Lost User
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    You download the beta from here: http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=8d702463-674b-4978-9e22-c989130f6553&DisplayLang=en[^] Haven't tried it yet, as I can't access the KB page, so I don't have a list of fixes! Can anyone help with this?


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      You download the beta from here: http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=8d702463-674b-4978-9e22-c989130f6553&DisplayLang=en[^] Haven't tried it yet, as I can't access the KB page, so I don't have a list of fixes! Can anyone help with this?


      When I am king, you will be first against the wall.

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      Alvaro Mendez
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      "Service Pack Beta"??? Is that the same as, "Service Pack Buggy"?  X| If a Service Pack is buggy, why bother releasing it? Alvaro


      If [God] knows what we are going to do then we have no free will and are just characters in a play written by him. Without free will, morality for humans makes no sense. Without free will and morality, any sort of punishment or reward system loses any justification. Heaven and hell would be places where [God] could watch the souls he created, predestined just for eternal happiness or agony. - Mark Thomas

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        "Service Pack Beta"??? Is that the same as, "Service Pack Buggy"?  X| If a Service Pack is buggy, why bother releasing it? Alvaro


        If [God] knows what we are going to do then we have no free will and are just characters in a play written by him. Without free will, morality for humans makes no sense. Without free will and morality, any sort of punishment or reward system loses any justification. Heaven and hell would be places where [God] could watch the souls he created, predestined just for eternal happiness or agony. - Mark Thomas

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        Judah Gabriel Himango
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        Alvaro Mendez wrote:

        If a Service Pack is buggy, why bother releasing it?

        I think it's more a "hey, did any of our fixes break anything" kind of test release. If you don't want to participate, no one's making you wait for the final service pack release.

        Alvaro Mendez wrote:

        "Service Pack Beta"??? Is that the same as, "Service Pack Buggy"?

        Tell it to Google.

        Tech, life, family, faith: Give me a visit. I'm currently blogging about: For Christians: The Significance of Yom Teruah The apostle Paul, modernly speaking: Epistles of Paul Judah Himango

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          You download the beta from here: http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=8d702463-674b-4978-9e22-c989130f6553&DisplayLang=en[^] Haven't tried it yet, as I can't access the KB page, so I don't have a list of fixes! Can anyone help with this?


          When I am king, you will be first against the wall.

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          Mike Dimmick
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          List of fixes is on the Connect site: http://connect.microsoft.com/VisualStudio[^], if you've signed up for the beta. Not sure why it's available from the regular Downloads site!

          Stability. What an interesting concept. -- Chris Maunder

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            List of fixes is on the Connect site: http://connect.microsoft.com/VisualStudio[^], if you've signed up for the beta. Not sure why it's available from the regular Downloads site!

            Stability. What an interesting concept. -- Chris Maunder

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            Jim A Johnson
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            I have to sign up for the beta to find out what bugs they've fixed? That's absurd.

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              I have to sign up for the beta to find out what bugs they've fixed? That's absurd.

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              Exactly! I won't bother installing it until I know what's changed.


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                Alvaro Mendez wrote:

                If a Service Pack is buggy, why bother releasing it?

                I think it's more a "hey, did any of our fixes break anything" kind of test release. If you don't want to participate, no one's making you wait for the final service pack release.

                Alvaro Mendez wrote:

                "Service Pack Beta"??? Is that the same as, "Service Pack Buggy"?

                Tell it to Google.

                Tech, life, family, faith: Give me a visit. I'm currently blogging about: For Christians: The Significance of Yom Teruah The apostle Paul, modernly speaking: Epistles of Paul Judah Himango

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                Judah Himango wrote:

                I think it's more a "hey, did any of our fixes break anything" kind of test release. If you don't want to participate, no one's making you wait for the final service pack release.

                OK... I guess. This is a first for me: a Beta on a Service Pack. But if it means a more stable SP, then I guess it's OK. Alvaro


                If [God] knows what we are going to do then we have no free will and are just characters in a play written by him. Without free will, morality for humans makes no sense. Without free will and morality, any sort of punishment or reward system loses any justification. Heaven and hell would be places where [God] could watch the souls he created, predestined just for eternal happiness or agony. - Mark Thomas

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                  List of fixes is on the Connect site: http://connect.microsoft.com/VisualStudio[^], if you've signed up for the beta. Not sure why it's available from the regular Downloads site!

                  Stability. What an interesting concept. -- Chris Maunder

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                  Wow, the statistics box on that page is something else. :omg:

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                    You download the beta from here: http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=8d702463-674b-4978-9e22-c989130f6553&DisplayLang=en[^] Haven't tried it yet, as I can't access the KB page, so I don't have a list of fixes! Can anyone help with this?


                    When I am king, you will be first against the wall.

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                    Rob Caldecott wrote:

                    Haven't tried it yet, as I can't access the KB page, so I don't have a list of fixes!

                    They did this with the VS2003 SP as well, remember? Except, instead of a beta, they forgot the list of fixes for the actual release. I held off installing it 'till they finally posted one, and good thing i did - none of the bugs i wanted fixed were in it anyway.

                    I am tired and sleepy that's why i am at office. -- Adnan Siddiqi, The Soapbox's Future

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                      Rob Caldecott wrote:

                      Haven't tried it yet, as I can't access the KB page, so I don't have a list of fixes!

                      They did this with the VS2003 SP as well, remember? Except, instead of a beta, they forgot the list of fixes for the actual release. I held off installing it 'till they finally posted one, and good thing i did - none of the bugs i wanted fixed were in it anyway.

                      I am tired and sleepy that's why i am at office. -- Adnan Siddiqi, The Soapbox's Future

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                      All I really care about is the std::stringstream leak and I can't find out if it's included (more than likely, but...).


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                        Judah Himango wrote:

                        I think it's more a "hey, did any of our fixes break anything" kind of test release. If you don't want to participate, no one's making you wait for the final service pack release.

                        OK... I guess. This is a first for me: a Beta on a Service Pack. But if it means a more stable SP, then I guess it's OK. Alvaro


                        If [God] knows what we are going to do then we have no free will and are just characters in a play written by him. Without free will, morality for humans makes no sense. Without free will and morality, any sort of punishment or reward system loses any justification. Heaven and hell would be places where [God] could watch the souls he created, predestined just for eternal happiness or agony. - Mark Thomas

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                        Alvaro Mendez wrote:

                        OK... I guess. This is a first for me: a Beta on a Service Pack.

                        They've released betas of SPs for Windows since about NT4 SP3. So it's not new. VS 2003 SP1 had a beta too. It's perhaps fairly new for Visual Studio but VS is becoming quite a complex beast these days.

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                          Judah Himango wrote:

                          I think it's more a "hey, did any of our fixes break anything" kind of test release. If you don't want to participate, no one's making you wait for the final service pack release.

                          OK... I guess. This is a first for me: a Beta on a Service Pack. But if it means a more stable SP, then I guess it's OK. Alvaro


                          If [God] knows what we are going to do then we have no free will and are just characters in a play written by him. Without free will, morality for humans makes no sense. Without free will and morality, any sort of punishment or reward system loses any justification. Heaven and hell would be places where [God] could watch the souls he created, predestined just for eternal happiness or agony. - Mark Thomas

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                          Joe Woodbury
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                          Alvaro Mendez wrote:

                          This is a first for me: a Beta on a Service Pack.

                          All service packs have betas. They are often closed to a select group, but it has a definite beta process.

                          Anyone who thinks he has a better idea of what's good for people than people do is a swine. - P.J. O'Rourke

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                            Rob Caldecott wrote:

                            Haven't tried it yet, as I can't access the KB page, so I don't have a list of fixes!

                            They did this with the VS2003 SP as well, remember? Except, instead of a beta, they forgot the list of fixes for the actual release. I held off installing it 'till they finally posted one, and good thing i did - none of the bugs i wanted fixed were in it anyway.

                            I am tired and sleepy that's why i am at office. -- Adnan Siddiqi, The Soapbox's Future

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                            Mike Dimmick
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                            I think there must be a big queue in translating and uploading KB articles or something. There are links all the way through the Connect page, and very few of them actually work. We, obviously, would prefer them to go up in English when the English text is available and then let them add the translations when those are ready.

                            Stability. What an interesting concept. -- Chris Maunder

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