Atheist terrorism?
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http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,217073,00.html[^] This is the third deadly school shooting in the US within a week. I doubt the media will elaborate, but I would like to know the religious affiliations of each of these terrorists. Since none of the three were Muslims (ruling out suicide attacks) and Christians condemn suicide as sinful and the Columbine kids were avid atheists and these attacks are somewhat modelled after columbine...I'm guessing we're experiencing an epidemic of atheist terrorism.
"You act like jew." -Score: 1.0 (3 votes).
That's an interesting point. I see you've been one voted for your insolence but to at least consider this view seems fair and even handled, especially considering the clear anti-Muslim leanings and biases that a prevalent; there is no shortage of people drawing conclusions about all Muslims based on the actions of a few.
Steve
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Henize wrote:
Why bother being good to other people when you just gonna be non-existent when you die?
You know, I'd never thought about that. I don't believe in any god so tomorrow I will strap my arsenal[^] to my back and go on a murderous rampage at my local orphanage. Because, obviously, there is nothing at all stopping me from doing so. I hope that part of your post was as sarcastic as mine.
Ðavid Wulff Die Freiheit spielt auf allen Geigen (video)
10 PRINT 'HELLO MAINTAINER: GOTO HELLDavid Wulff wrote:
I don't believe in any god
What do you believe in? How does existence exist? What made it all happen. What created existence? It is amazing! We are here in an infinite void, we have a position in this infinite void and that by its self is amazing. How can I be here and you over there? What properties of matter determines its position in space? Life is another maracle . How do we feel and think? We are not biological machines just roaming around seeming to be intelligent, we actually feel and experience the universe. Open you mind, you do not have to believe in a religion, just believe that there is something intelligent that created the universe. Just ponder on how existence was brought to existence and realize there is a purpose to it all.
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http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,217073,00.html[^] This is the third deadly school shooting in the US within a week. I doubt the media will elaborate, but I would like to know the religious affiliations of each of these terrorists. Since none of the three were Muslims (ruling out suicide attacks) and Christians condemn suicide as sinful and the Columbine kids were avid atheists and these attacks are somewhat modelled after columbine...I'm guessing we're experiencing an epidemic of atheist terrorism.
"You act like jew." -Score: 1.0 (3 votes).
Red Stateler wrote:
Since none of the three were Muslims (ruling out suicide attacks) and Christians condemn suicide as sinful and the Columbine kids were avid atheists and these attacks are somewhat modelled after columbine...
That`s twisted logic, even by your standards. You can sometimes be funny, but do you have to post this when the soapbox is on probation? I'd hate to put you on the same level as Kyle.
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Ray Cassick wrote:
The Crusades?
A 1000 year-old war brought on by the Muslim conquest of Europe? That's the best you can do? How about this? Russia, China, Germany...Even North Korea to this day. Hundreds of millions slaughtered by the lack of religion...All in our generation.
Ray Cassick wrote:
The surpression of science?
Like that atheist Isaac Newton who devoted even more of his time to theology than science? :rolleyes:
Ray Cassick wrote:
Salem witch hunts?
I don't think they "hunted" witches.
"You act like jew." -Score: 1.0 (3 votes).
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Firstly, nihilism is not comparable to atheism. Secondly, whilst performing any act as a Christian may be in the name of God (subject to individual interpretation) an act in the absense of religion is nothing more than the act. There is nothing for it to be in the name of.
Red Stateler wrote:
are increasingly committing violence crimes against theists
I would like to see some proof of that, but won't hold my breath. Statistically as the percentage of athiests increases past the number of theists then the proportion of crime will shift, but we are not at that point yet.
Ðavid Wulff Die Freiheit spielt auf allen Geigen (video)
10 PRINT 'HELLO MAINTAINER: GOTO HELLDavid Wulff wrote:
Firstly, nihilism is not comparable to atheism.
In today's world, they are most certainly comparable.
David Wulff wrote:
Secondly, whilst performing any act as a Christian may be in the name of God (subject to individual interpretation) an act in the absense of religion is nothing more than the act. There is nothing for it to be in the name of.
That depends on the motivation. As we saw in Columbine, they most certainly killed "in the name of" atheism. Atheism is not simply the absence of belief (that's agnosticism). It's the active belief in nothing and often the active suppression of those who disagree with that active belief. I think we should investigate this increasing level of violence. Frankly, atheists seem to align themselves theologically more with Islamofascists (perhaps because of atheism's history of fascist sympathy). I wonder if this alignment goes a little deeper than sympathy.
"You act like jew." -Score: 1.0 (3 votes).
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David Wulff wrote:
Firstly, nihilism is not comparable to atheism.
In today's world, they are most certainly comparable.
David Wulff wrote:
Secondly, whilst performing any act as a Christian may be in the name of God (subject to individual interpretation) an act in the absense of religion is nothing more than the act. There is nothing for it to be in the name of.
That depends on the motivation. As we saw in Columbine, they most certainly killed "in the name of" atheism. Atheism is not simply the absence of belief (that's agnosticism). It's the active belief in nothing and often the active suppression of those who disagree with that active belief. I think we should investigate this increasing level of violence. Frankly, atheists seem to align themselves theologically more with Islamofascists (perhaps because of atheism's history of fascist sympathy). I wonder if this alignment goes a little deeper than sympathy.
"You act like jew." -Score: 1.0 (3 votes).
Red Stateler wrote:
In today's world, they [nihilism & atheism] are most certainly comparable.
Ridiculous - that is a theistic conceit. Lack of a belief in a god or gods, or a belief that no gods exist, does not equate to a belief that the human experience is meaningless. Are you a Christian, Espeir?
- F "You are really weird." - Kyle, age 16
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Red Stateler wrote:
Since none of the three were Muslims (ruling out suicide attacks) and Christians condemn suicide as sinful and the Columbine kids were avid atheists and these attacks are somewhat modelled after columbine...
That`s twisted logic, even by your standards. You can sometimes be funny, but do you have to post this when the soapbox is on probation? I'd hate to put you on the same level as Kyle.
It's not meant to be a string of logical deduction, but rather a theory. Columbine was atheist terrorism. I have no doubt about that. There have been numerous copycat shootings (3 this week alone). This latest specifically targetted a group of peaceful Christians. Atheists seem to attribute all sort of violence to Christianity (no matter how many centuries old). Now I want to know whether or not this string of crimes is based on atheism. That's a reasonable question.
"You act like jew." -Score: 1.0 (3 votes).
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Red Stateler wrote:
In today's world, they [nihilism & atheism] are most certainly comparable.
Ridiculous - that is a theistic conceit. Lack of a belief in a god or gods, or a belief that no gods exist, does not equate to a belief that the human experience is meaningless. Are you a Christian, Espeir?
- F "You are really weird." - Kyle, age 16
Fisticuffs wrote:
Ridiculous - that is a theistic conceit. Lack of a belief in a god or gods, or a belief that no gods exist, does not equate to a belief that the human experience is meaningless.
I specifically said "in today's world". Nihilism is the prevelant philosophy of atheisms today. Your logic is erroneous.
"You act like jew." -Score: 1.0 (3 votes).
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Fisticuffs wrote:
Ridiculous - that is a theistic conceit. Lack of a belief in a god or gods, or a belief that no gods exist, does not equate to a belief that the human experience is meaningless.
I specifically said "in today's world". Nihilism is the prevelant philosophy of atheisms today. Your logic is erroneous.
"You act like jew." -Score: 1.0 (3 votes).
Red Stateler wrote:
I specifically said "in today's world". Nihilism is the prevelant philosophy of atheisms today. Your logic is erroneous.
Well, you can certainly say so, but as your rebuttal consists only of vaguely re-stating your position, I suppose we will have to remain in disagreement on this point. ...are you a Christian, Espeir?
- F "You are really weird." - Kyle, age 16
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It's not meant to be a string of logical deduction, but rather a theory. Columbine was atheist terrorism. I have no doubt about that. There have been numerous copycat shootings (3 this week alone). This latest specifically targetted a group of peaceful Christians. Atheists seem to attribute all sort of violence to Christianity (no matter how many centuries old). Now I want to know whether or not this string of crimes is based on atheism. That's a reasonable question.
"You act like jew." -Score: 1.0 (3 votes).
I delete my original post, I should'nt have gotten as low as you, not on this topic on this day. Sorry to everybody else. -- modified at 22:54 Monday 2nd October, 2006
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Why would you praise the absence of God? That makes no sense. The acts themselves, conducted by atheists, are done in praise of nihilism and the belief of a lack of accountibility. Frankly, I find it concerning that atheists, which have previously been rather benign (except in certain communist and nazi nations) are increasingly committing violence crimes against theists.
"You act like jew." -Score: 1.0 (3 votes).
Red Stateler wrote:
I find it concerning that atheists, which have previously been rather benign (except in certain communist and nazi nations)
Nazi nations? There was only one Nazi nation - Germany. Hitler and Hitler's Germany were not atheistic by any stretch of the imagination and I dare you to cite reputable evidence to the contrary.
No eternal reward will forgive us now for wasting the dawn. - Jim Morrison
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Red Stateler wrote:
I find it concerning that atheists, which have previously been rather benign (except in certain communist and nazi nations)
Nazi nations? There was only one Nazi nation - Germany. Hitler and Hitler's Germany were not atheistic by any stretch of the imagination and I dare you to cite reputable evidence to the contrary.
No eternal reward will forgive us now for wasting the dawn. - Jim Morrison
Excuse my english. It obviously would have been grammatically correct to say "except in certain communist and nazi nation". :rolleyes:
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Considering fewer people were killed in abortion clinic bombings (both of which perpetrated by one man who was eventually caught and found guilty by Christians) over the past 35 years than were killed today...I think Christians can claim the moral high ground. I'm also excluding the 50 million babies that were killed by abortion clinics.
"You act like jew." -Score: 1.0 (3 votes).
How about making Christianity the official religion in the United States? and do some forced conversions. I hope you can support a Christian political party, and try to get the constitution amended.
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Alvaro Mendez wrote:
They did it for whatever reason, but it had nothing to do with their beliefs (or lack thereof) in a deity.
What makes you say that? The Columbine kids (who started the whole school shoot-em-up game) were known to be atheists and one even wore a shirt labelled "survival of the fittest" (in reference to evolution) as he shot up his school mates. That's kind of like a Muslim wearing a rag or whatever they wear when they blow up a bomb.
Alvaro Mendez wrote:
They defined their own morals? At that moment? Were they believers before that moment and all of the sudden they turned to atheism, which altered their morals? How about this: They lost it, they went crazy, they stopped caring about obeying the law. Doesn't that sound more plausible?
Ah, I see. A Christian shoots an abortion doctor and he's a "Christian terrorist". An atheist shoots up a school of Christians and the poor soul just couldn't take modern living any more and needed a release.
"You act like jew." -Score: 1.0 (3 votes).
Red Stateler wrote:
"survival of the fittest" (in reference to evolution)
... ban the whole "evolution stuff" from school. Teach "Genesis" instead. Do whatever, but put an end to these killings. Please tell me that you can do that.
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Excuse my english. It obviously would have been grammatically correct to say "except in certain communist and nazi nation". :rolleyes:
"You act like jew." -Score: 1.0 (3 votes).
Effectively dodging the question, eh? I agree with you -- all athiests should be killed or forcibly converted. I hope you can lead the movement!
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Excuse my english. It obviously would have been grammatically correct to say "except in certain communist and nazi nation". :rolleyes:
"You act like jew." -Score: 1.0 (3 votes).
Red Stateler wrote:
"except in certain communist and nazi nation
You are still wrong. Hitler and Hitler's Germany were not atheistic by any stretch of the imagination and I dare you to cite reputable evidence to the contrary.
No eternal reward will forgive us now for wasting the dawn. - Jim Morrison
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You know, thats a damn good point. I demand an investigation into the religion, or lack there of, of these terrorists. If we are under attack from secular-progressive extremists I think we need to be aware of it!
Thank God for disproportional force.
:) nice.
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I agree that lack of morals can be deadly. Why bother being good to other people when you just gonna be non-existent when you die? Religion can be good because it can bring a large number of people together because they share a common belief.
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Considering fewer people were killed in abortion clinic bombings (both of which perpetrated by one man who was eventually caught and found guilty by Christians) over the past 35 years than were killed today...I think Christians can claim the moral high ground. I'm also excluding the 50 million babies that were killed by abortion clinics.
"You act like jew." -Score: 1.0 (3 votes).
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I think that was from "The Message" translation. Or most of it, anyways. I have a Message translation at home; I like it for it's easy-to-understand language. Sometimes it goes a little overboard with the modern language, for instance, phrases like "a song for singing the blues" instead of "lamentations", or "raise the roof with praises" instead of "shout praises to God", and other rather laughable paraphrasing. Despite these funny little things, I do enjoy the Message, and I would recommend it.
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