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Ed Gadziemski wrote:
Don't these pedophiles like Foley and their enablers like Hastert realize that electronic communication leaves a trail?
I think it is the dems who should be most concerned abuut that. There is no evidence that Hastert or any of the republicans were aware of the sexually explicite instant messages. All they were aware of were the far more tame e-mails, which they did confront Foley on and forced him to discontinue emailing the pages. Someone was hanging on to the IMs to gain maximum political damage, and I'm pretty sure it was not the Republicans. Lets just see where the investigation leads. At least Republicans have the decency to resign after being exposed as sexual perverts - look up Gerry Studds sometime.
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Stan Shannon wrote:
There is no evidence that Hastert or any of the republicans were aware of the sexually explicite instant messages. All they were aware of were the far more tame e-mails,
That's a lame excuse. The e-mails should have set off warning bells to anyone, except those whose sole concern is remaining in power.
Stan Shannon wrote:
At least Republicans have the decency to resign
Some decency.:rolleyes: He was forced to resign by a leadership that was caught trying to cover up the scandal.
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When a Republican sends instant messages (but does nothing physical) to a page, the entire Republican party is expected to resign. When a Democrat actually has sex with an underaged page, he's pardoned by the Democrats! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mel_Reynolds[^]
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Perhaps you should actually read the articles you link to: "Mel Reynolds served his entire 5 year sentence on the original sex charges, but after 3 1/2 years of Reynold's 6 1/2 year bank fraud sentence, U.S. President Bill Clinton commuted the bank fraud sentence."
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Stan Shannon wrote:
There is no evidence that Hastert or any of the republicans were aware of the sexually explicite instant messages. All they were aware of were the far more tame e-mails,
That's a lame excuse. The e-mails should have set off warning bells to anyone, except those whose sole concern is remaining in power.
Stan Shannon wrote:
At least Republicans have the decency to resign
Some decency.:rolleyes: He was forced to resign by a leadership that was caught trying to cover up the scandal.
No eternal reward will forgive us now for wasting the dawn. - Jim Morrison
dennisd45 wrote:
The e-mails should have set off warning bells to anyone, except those whose sole concern is remaining in power.
They did set off alarm bells, house leadership confronted Foley on the issue. There is absolutely no evidence that actual sexual contact occured between Foley and anyone. How harse were they supposed to be?
dennisd45 wrote:
Some decency. He was forced to resign by a leadership that was caught trying to cover up the scandal.
As usual, this is all democrat dirty tricks. This could have all come out months ago, but that would have given the Republicans time to get someone else's name on the ticket in Foley's district. As it is now, his name has to remain in place. The real scandal is that this has apparently beomce the only way dems have of winning elections. How proud you must be.
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Perhaps you should actually read the articles you link to: "Mel Reynolds served his entire 5 year sentence on the original sex charges, but after 3 1/2 years of Reynold's 6 1/2 year bank fraud sentence, U.S. President Bill Clinton commuted the bank fraud sentence."
Oh yes! That's a VERY important detail! :laugh: Oh, and you left out this little diddy:
Despite the charges, he continued his campaign and was re-elected in November
of 2004. Reynolds initially denied the charges, which he claimed were racially
motivated. On August 22, 1995 he was convicted on 12 counts of sexual assault,
obstruction of justice and solicitation of child pornography. He resigned his seat
on October 1, 1995.So he continued running as a Democrat (thereby meaning he was supported by the Democratic Party), refused to resign and...Was even reelected! :laugh:
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oh get over it. if the org structure for every failed politician had to fall on their sword we'd be living in anarchy. if anyone is to be criticized, other than Foley, it should be ABC who was more worried about impacting an election than it was in protecting the pages. GOP leadership got rid of the guy the minute they were made aware of the problem.
Mike Dear NYT - the fact is, the founding fathers hung traitors. Vincent Reynolds: My opposition is as enlightened as your support, jackass. dennisd45: My view of the world is slightly more nuanced dennisd45 (the NAMBLA supporter) wrote: I know exactly what it means. So shut up you mother killing baby raper.
Mike Gaskey wrote:
if anyone is to be criticized, other than Foley, it should be ABC
A year ago, conservative newspapers The St. Petersburg Times and The Miami Herald were given copies of the e-mail, as were other news organizations, including Fox News. They sat on the story.[^]
Mike Gaskey wrote:
GOP leadership got rid of the guy the minute they were made aware of the problem.
"Rep. Tom Reynolds, the House Republican campaign chairman, said he told Hastert in the spring of this year about the questionable e-mail. Hastert says he does not recall the conversation but does not dispute Reynolds' account."
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dennisd45 wrote:
The e-mails should have set off warning bells to anyone, except those whose sole concern is remaining in power.
They did set off alarm bells, house leadership confronted Foley on the issue. There is absolutely no evidence that actual sexual contact occured between Foley and anyone. How harse were they supposed to be?
dennisd45 wrote:
Some decency. He was forced to resign by a leadership that was caught trying to cover up the scandal.
As usual, this is all democrat dirty tricks. This could have all come out months ago, but that would have given the Republicans time to get someone else's name on the ticket in Foley's district. As it is now, his name has to remain in place. The real scandal is that this has apparently beomce the only way dems have of winning elections. How proud you must be.
Thank God for disproportional force.
Stan Shannon wrote:
This could have all come out months ago, but that would have given the Republicans time
One year ago, conservative newspapers The St. Petersburg Times and The Miami Herald were given copies of the e-mail, as were other news organizations, including Fox News. They sat on the story. Sorry, Stan. That blows your democrat dirty tricks theory out of the water.
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dennisd45 wrote:
The e-mails should have set off warning bells to anyone, except those whose sole concern is remaining in power.
They did set off alarm bells, house leadership confronted Foley on the issue. There is absolutely no evidence that actual sexual contact occured between Foley and anyone. How harse were they supposed to be?
dennisd45 wrote:
Some decency. He was forced to resign by a leadership that was caught trying to cover up the scandal.
As usual, this is all democrat dirty tricks. This could have all come out months ago, but that would have given the Republicans time to get someone else's name on the ticket in Foley's district. As it is now, his name has to remain in place. The real scandal is that this has apparently beomce the only way dems have of winning elections. How proud you must be.
Thank God for disproportional force.
Stan Shannon wrote:
How harse were they supposed to be?
Yeah, real harsh. They left him as co-chair of the Missing and Exploited Childrens Caucus(the irony!). They didn't investigate and discover that he had corresponded with other pages.
Stan Shannon wrote:
As usual, this is all democrat dirty tricks.
As usual, you paranoia kicks in.
Stan Shannon wrote:
This could have all come out months ago, but that would have given the Republicans time to get someone else's name on the ticket in Foley's district.
It could have, but the Republican leadership suppressed it.
No eternal reward will forgive us now for wasting the dawn. - Jim Morrison
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Oh yes! That's a VERY important detail! :laugh: Oh, and you left out this little diddy:
Despite the charges, he continued his campaign and was re-elected in November
of 2004. Reynolds initially denied the charges, which he claimed were racially
motivated. On August 22, 1995 he was convicted on 12 counts of sexual assault,
obstruction of justice and solicitation of child pornography. He resigned his seat
on October 1, 1995.So he continued running as a Democrat (thereby meaning he was supported by the Democratic Party), refused to resign and...Was even reelected! :laugh:
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Red Stateler wrote:
So he continued running as a Democrat (thereby meaning he was supported by the Democratic Party),
Mere sophistry. Way to ignore the point, by the way. Your previous post was pure BS. Here is some humor: Bush's brother[^]
No eternal reward will forgive us now for wasting the dawn. - Jim Morrison
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Red Stateler wrote:
So he continued running as a Democrat (thereby meaning he was supported by the Democratic Party),
Mere sophistry. Way to ignore the point, by the way. Your previous post was pure BS. Here is some humor: Bush's brother[^]
No eternal reward will forgive us now for wasting the dawn. - Jim Morrison
dennisd45 wrote:
Mere sophistry. Way to ignore the point, by the way. Your previous post was pure BS.
:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh: You silly little goose! You were caught nursing a cow!
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Stan Shannon wrote:
This could have all come out months ago, but that would have given the Republicans time
One year ago, conservative newspapers The St. Petersburg Times and The Miami Herald were given copies of the e-mail, as were other news organizations, including Fox News. They sat on the story. Sorry, Stan. That blows your democrat dirty tricks theory out of the water.
Ed Gadziemski wrote:
Sorry, Stan. That blows your democrat dirty tricks theory out of the water.
How? Hastert, et al, openly admit they saw and responded to the e-mails. The issue is not about the e-mails. It is about the instant messages - who had those? Some of them are three years old. Have democrat operatives been hanging on to information that could have been used to protect these children just for their own political advantage?
Thank God for disproportional force.
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Stan Shannon wrote:
How harse were they supposed to be?
Yeah, real harsh. They left him as co-chair of the Missing and Exploited Childrens Caucus(the irony!). They didn't investigate and discover that he had corresponded with other pages.
Stan Shannon wrote:
As usual, this is all democrat dirty tricks.
As usual, you paranoia kicks in.
Stan Shannon wrote:
This could have all come out months ago, but that would have given the Republicans time to get someone else's name on the ticket in Foley's district.
It could have, but the Republican leadership suppressed it.
No eternal reward will forgive us now for wasting the dawn. - Jim Morrison
dennisd45 wrote:
They left him as co-chair of the Missing and Exploited Childrens Caucus(the irony!). They didn't investigate and discover that he had corresponded with other pages.
What should they have done? There was no evidence the man had done anything aside from asking a former page for a picture. There is no evidence Foley has ever physically molested or exploited a child in his life. Should congress go on a witch hunt against every member who is a suspected homosexual and speaks with a page? ARe you saying that homosexuals should not be allowed on certain committees? What would you be saying now if the Republicans had done that?
dennisd45 wrote:
It could have, but the Republican leadership suppressed it
No, they were not even aware the IM's existed. But somebody sure as hell was. Who was witholding legal information?
Thank God for disproportional force.
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Speaker of the U.S. House of Representatives Dennis Hastert brushed aside any suggestion of resignation on Tuesday as House Republican leaders struggled to contain the fallout from an election-year scandal involving sexually explicit messages from a disgraced lawmaker to underage male pages.[^] Ah, the wonders of technology. Don't these pedophiles like Foley and their enablers like Hastert realize that electronic communication leaves a trail?
I'm sure when they do, they'll just slip an appendix on a unrelated bill to make it illegal to use as evidence. :rolleyes:
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dennisd45 wrote:
They left him as co-chair of the Missing and Exploited Childrens Caucus(the irony!). They didn't investigate and discover that he had corresponded with other pages.
What should they have done? There was no evidence the man had done anything aside from asking a former page for a picture. There is no evidence Foley has ever physically molested or exploited a child in his life. Should congress go on a witch hunt against every member who is a suspected homosexual and speaks with a page? ARe you saying that homosexuals should not be allowed on certain committees? What would you be saying now if the Republicans had done that?
dennisd45 wrote:
It could have, but the Republican leadership suppressed it
No, they were not even aware the IM's existed. But somebody sure as hell was. Who was witholding legal information?
Thank God for disproportional force.
Stan Shannon wrote:
There is no evidence Foley has ever physically molested or exploited a child in his life.
Isn't IM sex molestation and/or exploitation? Foley had mutual masturbation sessions online with at least one page.
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Stan Shannon wrote:
There is no evidence Foley has ever physically molested or exploited a child in his life.
Isn't IM sex molestation and/or exploitation? Foley had mutual masturbation sessions online with at least one page.
Ed Gadziemski wrote:
Foley had mutual masturbation sessions online with at least one page.
And he resigned over it...And yet you seem to think that somehow it's OK for a Democrat to have actually sex with an underage page and get re-elected under the official Democratic ticket. Double-standard? Naaahhhhh...
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dennisd45 wrote:
They left him as co-chair of the Missing and Exploited Childrens Caucus(the irony!). They didn't investigate and discover that he had corresponded with other pages.
What should they have done? There was no evidence the man had done anything aside from asking a former page for a picture. There is no evidence Foley has ever physically molested or exploited a child in his life. Should congress go on a witch hunt against every member who is a suspected homosexual and speaks with a page? ARe you saying that homosexuals should not be allowed on certain committees? What would you be saying now if the Republicans had done that?
dennisd45 wrote:
It could have, but the Republican leadership suppressed it
No, they were not even aware the IM's existed. But somebody sure as hell was. Who was witholding legal information?
Thank God for disproportional force.
Stan Shannon wrote:
Should congress go on a witch hunt against every member who is a suspected homosexual and speaks with a page? ARe you saying that homosexuals should not be allowed on certain committees? What would you be saying now if the Republicans had done that?
Ummmm... Foley is slime because the page was underage not because the page was male.
"Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind." - Dr. Seuss
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Stan Shannon wrote:
Should congress go on a witch hunt against every member who is a suspected homosexual and speaks with a page? ARe you saying that homosexuals should not be allowed on certain committees? What would you be saying now if the Republicans had done that?
Ummmm... Foley is slime because the page was underage not because the page was male.
"Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind." - Dr. Seuss
Why do you want to restrict freedoms from people just because they haven't hit their 18th birthday yet?
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oh get over it. if the org structure for every failed politician had to fall on their sword we'd be living in anarchy. if anyone is to be criticized, other than Foley, it should be ABC who was more worried about impacting an election than it was in protecting the pages. GOP leadership got rid of the guy the minute they were made aware of the problem.
Mike Dear NYT - the fact is, the founding fathers hung traitors. Vincent Reynolds: My opposition is as enlightened as your support, jackass. dennisd45: My view of the world is slightly more nuanced dennisd45 (the NAMBLA supporter) wrote: I know exactly what it means. So shut up you mother killing baby raper.
Mike Gaskey wrote:
it should be ABC who was more worried about impacting an election than it was in protecting the pages
that's true.
Mike Gaskey wrote:
GOP leadership got rid of the guy the minute they were made aware of the problem.
not so sure that's true.
Silence is the voice of complicity. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government. -- monty python Might I suggest that the universe was always the size of the cosmos. It is just that at one point the cosmos was the size of a marble. -- Colin Angus Mackay
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Why do you want to restrict freedoms from people just because they haven't hit their 18th birthday yet?
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Don't be a twit. Our society decides on an age of consent and enforces it via our laws.
"Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind." - Dr. Seuss
Oh, so I suppose you think slavery was just A-OK since it was "legal", huh? Nice! Bigot!!!
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Oh, so I suppose you think slavery was just A-OK since it was "legal", huh? Nice! Bigot!!!
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