Pope Denny
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dennisd45 wrote:
They left him as co-chair of the Missing and Exploited Childrens Caucus(the irony!). They didn't investigate and discover that he had corresponded with other pages.
What should they have done? There was no evidence the man had done anything aside from asking a former page for a picture. There is no evidence Foley has ever physically molested or exploited a child in his life. Should congress go on a witch hunt against every member who is a suspected homosexual and speaks with a page? ARe you saying that homosexuals should not be allowed on certain committees? What would you be saying now if the Republicans had done that?
dennisd45 wrote:
It could have, but the Republican leadership suppressed it
No, they were not even aware the IM's existed. But somebody sure as hell was. Who was witholding legal information?
Thank God for disproportional force.
Stan Shannon wrote:
Should congress go on a witch hunt against every member who is a suspected homosexual and speaks with a page? ARe you saying that homosexuals should not be allowed on certain committees? What would you be saying now if the Republicans had done that?
Ummmm... Foley is slime because the page was underage not because the page was male.
"Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind." - Dr. Seuss
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Stan Shannon wrote:
Should congress go on a witch hunt against every member who is a suspected homosexual and speaks with a page? ARe you saying that homosexuals should not be allowed on certain committees? What would you be saying now if the Republicans had done that?
Ummmm... Foley is slime because the page was underage not because the page was male.
"Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind." - Dr. Seuss
Why do you want to restrict freedoms from people just because they haven't hit their 18th birthday yet?
"You act like jew." -Score: 1.0 (3 votes).
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oh get over it. if the org structure for every failed politician had to fall on their sword we'd be living in anarchy. if anyone is to be criticized, other than Foley, it should be ABC who was more worried about impacting an election than it was in protecting the pages. GOP leadership got rid of the guy the minute they were made aware of the problem.
Mike Dear NYT - the fact is, the founding fathers hung traitors. Vincent Reynolds: My opposition is as enlightened as your support, jackass. dennisd45: My view of the world is slightly more nuanced dennisd45 (the NAMBLA supporter) wrote: I know exactly what it means. So shut up you mother killing baby raper.
Mike Gaskey wrote:
it should be ABC who was more worried about impacting an election than it was in protecting the pages
that's true.
Mike Gaskey wrote:
GOP leadership got rid of the guy the minute they were made aware of the problem.
not so sure that's true.
Silence is the voice of complicity. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government. -- monty python Might I suggest that the universe was always the size of the cosmos. It is just that at one point the cosmos was the size of a marble. -- Colin Angus Mackay
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Why do you want to restrict freedoms from people just because they haven't hit their 18th birthday yet?
"You act like jew." -Score: 1.0 (3 votes).
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Don't be a twit. Our society decides on an age of consent and enforces it via our laws.
"Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind." - Dr. Seuss
Oh, so I suppose you think slavery was just A-OK since it was "legal", huh? Nice! Bigot!!!
"You act like jew." -Score: 1.0 (3 votes).
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Oh, so I suppose you think slavery was just A-OK since it was "legal", huh? Nice! Bigot!!!
"You act like jew." -Score: 1.0 (3 votes).
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Speaker of the U.S. House of Representatives Dennis Hastert brushed aside any suggestion of resignation on Tuesday as House Republican leaders struggled to contain the fallout from an election-year scandal involving sexually explicit messages from a disgraced lawmaker to underage male pages.[^] Ah, the wonders of technology. Don't these pedophiles like Foley and their enablers like Hastert realize that electronic communication leaves a trail?
I only vaguely know about this because I went to CNN to find out about the Amish school shooting. Otherwise, the only connection I'd make with Denny is that the pope eats at Dennys.
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Stan Shannon wrote:
There is no evidence Foley has ever physically molested or exploited a child in his life.
Isn't IM sex molestation and/or exploitation? Foley had mutual masturbation sessions online with at least one page.
Ed Gadziemski wrote:
Isn't IM sex molestation and/or exploitation? Foley had mutual masturbation sessions online with at least one page.
It certainly isn't physical contact. But, apparently, the republicans had no evidence of even that behavior because the democrats were setting on top of the evidence in order to spring it as another of their dirty little October surprises. I wonder how many more of these political charades we can expect before november?
Thank God for disproportional force.
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Stan Shannon wrote:
Should congress go on a witch hunt against every member who is a suspected homosexual and speaks with a page? ARe you saying that homosexuals should not be allowed on certain committees? What would you be saying now if the Republicans had done that?
Ummmm... Foley is slime because the page was underage not because the page was male.
"Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind." - Dr. Seuss
Mike Mullikin wrote:
Foley is slime because the page was underage not because the page was male.
But that isn't the point. The point is should members of congress who are homosexual not be allowed to have conversations with pages regardless of their age or gender? Is taht what the republicans should have done when they learned of the emails? Should they now review the emails and IM's of each homosexual member of congress? Is that the plan?
Thank God for disproportional force.
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Speaker of the U.S. House of Representatives Dennis Hastert brushed aside any suggestion of resignation on Tuesday as House Republican leaders struggled to contain the fallout from an election-year scandal involving sexually explicit messages from a disgraced lawmaker to underage male pages.[^] Ah, the wonders of technology. Don't these pedophiles like Foley and their enablers like Hastert realize that electronic communication leaves a trail?
No, you've got it all wrong. You get elected to Papalcy for years of successfully covering up others sexual abuse. Link - One source of many, just Google it[^] Nice Church you've got there, Nice indeed X|
Rhys I'm glad I'm not Brezhnev. Being the Russian leader in the Kremlin, you never know if someone's tape-recording what you say. Richard Nixon
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Mike Mullikin wrote:
Foley is slime because the page was underage not because the page was male.
But that isn't the point. The point is should members of congress who are homosexual not be allowed to have conversations with pages regardless of their age or gender? Is taht what the republicans should have done when they learned of the emails? Should they now review the emails and IM's of each homosexual member of congress? Is that the plan?
Thank God for disproportional force.
Stan Shannon wrote:
The point is should members of congress who are homosexual not be allowed to have conversations with pages regardless of their age or gender?
Where did you get this from? I've re-read the thread and nobody has mentioned this. Also pages come in both male and female varieties - so segregating homosexuals would be pointless. I repeat: This is not a homosexual issue - it's an age issue and a sexual harrasment issue since a page is subordinate to a congressman.
"Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind." - Dr. Seuss
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I only vaguely know about this because I went to CNN to find out about the Amish school shooting. Otherwise, the only connection I'd make with Denny is that the pope eats at Dennys.
Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog
Christian Graus wrote:
Otherwise, the only connection I'd make with Denny is that the pope eats at Dennys
The current pope is accused of covering up[^] sex scandals.
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Ed Gadziemski wrote:
Isn't IM sex molestation and/or exploitation? Foley had mutual masturbation sessions online with at least one page.
It certainly isn't physical contact. But, apparently, the republicans had no evidence of even that behavior because the democrats were setting on top of the evidence in order to spring it as another of their dirty little October surprises. I wonder how many more of these political charades we can expect before november?
Thank God for disproportional force.
Stan Shannon wrote:
the democrats were setting on top of the evidence
Do you have evidence of this anywhere other than in your own mind?
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Christian Graus wrote:
Otherwise, the only connection I'd make with Denny is that the pope eats at Dennys
The current pope is accused of covering up[^] sex scandals.
Oh steal my thunder why don't you[^] :-D
Rhys I'm glad I'm not Brezhnev. Being the Russian leader in the Kremlin, you never know if someone's tape-recording what you say. Richard Nixon
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No, you've got it all wrong. You get elected to Papalcy for years of successfully covering up others sexual abuse. Link - One source of many, just Google it[^] Nice Church you've got there, Nice indeed X|
Rhys I'm glad I'm not Brezhnev. Being the Russian leader in the Kremlin, you never know if someone's tape-recording what you say. Richard Nixon
Rhys666 wrote:
You get elected to Papalcy for years of successfully covering up others sexual abuse
That is what I am implying. Speaker Denny Hastert has years of experience at covering up others sexual abuse, so he could be elected pope.
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Rhys666 wrote:
You get elected to Papalcy for years of successfully covering up others sexual abuse
That is what I am implying. Speaker Denny Hastert has years of experience at covering up others sexual abuse, so he could be elected pope.
Ed Gadziemski wrote:
Speaker Denny Hastert has years of experience at covering up others sexual abuse
Do you have evidence of this other than your own vain imaginings?
Silence is the voice of complicity. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government. -- monty python Might I suggest that the universe was always the size of the cosmos. It is just that at one point the cosmos was the size of a marble. -- Colin Angus Mackay
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Stan Shannon wrote:
the democrats were setting on top of the evidence
Do you have evidence of this anywhere other than in your own mind?
Ed Gadziemski wrote:
Do you have evidence of this anywhere other than in your own mind?
Of course not, but who else could have had it? Apparently this was first reported by ABC news. Where did they suddenly turn up the IMs from? Who keeps copies of IM's for three years? Did some ISP just suddenly find old copies by accident? Did some 16 year old page keep them in order to embarrass himself later in life? Something really stinks about all of this. Like I say, lets wait for the investigation and see what gets turned up. If Hastert is responsible for a cover up, that I will be the first to say he should resign.
Thank God for disproportional force.
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Stan Shannon wrote:
The point is should members of congress who are homosexual not be allowed to have conversations with pages regardless of their age or gender?
Where did you get this from? I've re-read the thread and nobody has mentioned this. Also pages come in both male and female varieties - so segregating homosexuals would be pointless. I repeat: This is not a homosexual issue - it's an age issue and a sexual harrasment issue since a page is subordinate to a congressman.
"Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind." - Dr. Seuss
Mike Mullikin wrote:
This is not a homosexual issue - it's an age issue and a sexual harrasment issue since a page is subordinate to a congressman.
But they only thing they had on Foley was that he was a suspected homosexual and he sent an email to a former, underage, page. That was supposed to be enough for the republican leadership to force him to resign. If that isn't what the above anti-republican posts are suggesting, than what are they suggesting? What should Hastert have done about Foley based on the information he has stated he had? My question remains, if that was supposed to be enough to condemn Foley and force him to resign, should it be extended to all suspected homosexuals based on the fact that they might have emailed pages? If not, how can anyone condemn Hastert and the repblican congressional leadership for not being more harse with Foley?
Thank God for disproportional force.
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Mike Mullikin wrote:
This is not a homosexual issue - it's an age issue and a sexual harrasment issue since a page is subordinate to a congressman.
But they only thing they had on Foley was that he was a suspected homosexual and he sent an email to a former, underage, page. That was supposed to be enough for the republican leadership to force him to resign. If that isn't what the above anti-republican posts are suggesting, than what are they suggesting? What should Hastert have done about Foley based on the information he has stated he had? My question remains, if that was supposed to be enough to condemn Foley and force him to resign, should it be extended to all suspected homosexuals based on the fact that they might have emailed pages? If not, how can anyone condemn Hastert and the repblican congressional leadership for not being more harse with Foley?
Thank God for disproportional force.
I haven't condemned anyone except Foley. As for the Ed's condemnation of Hastert and your support of the GOP leadership, I'd be very, VERY careful if I were you guys. It's way too early to know who knew what or when. I'd hate to hitch my horse to anyone this soon.
"Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind." - Dr. Seuss
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I haven't condemned anyone except Foley. As for the Ed's condemnation of Hastert and your support of the GOP leadership, I'd be very, VERY careful if I were you guys. It's way too early to know who knew what or when. I'd hate to hitch my horse to anyone this soon.
"Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind." - Dr. Seuss
Mike Mullikin wrote:
It's way too early to know who knew what or when. I'd hate to hitch my horse to anyone this soon.
I agree with that completely. But, again, this is all working out too convienietly for the dems for it to not be a planned, staged and choreograph political hit. If the republicans were dumb enough to get caught in the act, than to hell with them. We'll just fall back, reload, and hit 'em again.
Thank God for disproportional force.