MS strength outside USA
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Hi guys, if you're from Europe or anywhere outside the US, how strong do you believe MS is where you live? I ask because I get the impression that European countries seem to be more eager to try out new (read, other than MS) technology than US entities. Seeing as MS still managed to INCREASE quarterly profits over last years 1Q profits, how is that even possible with the weak global economy, license increases, slow x-box and office xp sales, all that coupled with reports week in week out that we keep hearing about concerning defections to both Open Source software as well as Linux, especially outside the US. Dunno, creative accounting? MS is strong in the US, fine, but what about elsewhere? Europe? South America? What do you guys think? Regards Senkwe Just another wannabe code junky
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Hi guys, if you're from Europe or anywhere outside the US, how strong do you believe MS is where you live? I ask because I get the impression that European countries seem to be more eager to try out new (read, other than MS) technology than US entities. Seeing as MS still managed to INCREASE quarterly profits over last years 1Q profits, how is that even possible with the weak global economy, license increases, slow x-box and office xp sales, all that coupled with reports week in week out that we keep hearing about concerning defections to both Open Source software as well as Linux, especially outside the US. Dunno, creative accounting? MS is strong in the US, fine, but what about elsewhere? Europe? South America? What do you guys think? Regards Senkwe Just another wannabe code junky
Well Tony Blair our prime minister was cozying up to Bill a couple of years back. There was supposed to be some deal for the UK Goverments online services to run on Windows. Not sure what happened or if it is still in progress. Most of the businesses I come into contact with are running Windows. I've not seen a Linux server for a couple of years. Michael :-)
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Hi guys, if you're from Europe or anywhere outside the US, how strong do you believe MS is where you live? I ask because I get the impression that European countries seem to be more eager to try out new (read, other than MS) technology than US entities. Seeing as MS still managed to INCREASE quarterly profits over last years 1Q profits, how is that even possible with the weak global economy, license increases, slow x-box and office xp sales, all that coupled with reports week in week out that we keep hearing about concerning defections to both Open Source software as well as Linux, especially outside the US. Dunno, creative accounting? MS is strong in the US, fine, but what about elsewhere? Europe? South America? What do you guys think? Regards Senkwe Just another wannabe code junky
Hi senkwe, i dunno exactly what you mean with *strong* , but: In Germany, except from a few young and eager nerds (i guess) who use Linux on their home PCs, Microsoft is the absolute market-leader. (MS Office, MS WorksSuite, MS Exchange, MS Outlook for EMail (which sucks... X| )MS dunnowhat 2.0 ....). And btw: Do you know any better dev enviroment than DevStudio 6.0/7.0 ??? ??? ??? greetings from germany, Olli
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Hi guys, if you're from Europe or anywhere outside the US, how strong do you believe MS is where you live? I ask because I get the impression that European countries seem to be more eager to try out new (read, other than MS) technology than US entities. Seeing as MS still managed to INCREASE quarterly profits over last years 1Q profits, how is that even possible with the weak global economy, license increases, slow x-box and office xp sales, all that coupled with reports week in week out that we keep hearing about concerning defections to both Open Source software as well as Linux, especially outside the US. Dunno, creative accounting? MS is strong in the US, fine, but what about elsewhere? Europe? South America? What do you guys think? Regards Senkwe Just another wannabe code junky
The support in SA is pretty good. Monthly events: MSDN essentials, technet essentials, + other Yearly events: Devdays, TechEd. Two things that piss me off: 1. no MS development gets done here 2. Bill doesn't want to come out here for teched. :( Cheers, Simon "I get paid for my brain and my thinking in several obscure worlds", Olli, The Lounge
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Hi guys, if you're from Europe or anywhere outside the US, how strong do you believe MS is where you live? I ask because I get the impression that European countries seem to be more eager to try out new (read, other than MS) technology than US entities. Seeing as MS still managed to INCREASE quarterly profits over last years 1Q profits, how is that even possible with the weak global economy, license increases, slow x-box and office xp sales, all that coupled with reports week in week out that we keep hearing about concerning defections to both Open Source software as well as Linux, especially outside the US. Dunno, creative accounting? MS is strong in the US, fine, but what about elsewhere? Europe? South America? What do you guys think? Regards Senkwe Just another wannabe code junky
i am from austria.. which is sure influenced by germany too.. imho on the "normal" desktop market and in most offices microsoft is leader.. far ahead.. (on the back end many older firms do have got ibm - mainframes.. but that's it..) i've never seen a bigger office / firm having any linux - servers.. as far as i know linux is a big deal when talking bout universities.. that's definitely the market for linux.. (so maybe in some years, when all the guys are away from uni.. maybe then this may change.. but i am no witchdoctor so i don't know this) have a nice day, bernhard
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Hi guys, if you're from Europe or anywhere outside the US, how strong do you believe MS is where you live? I ask because I get the impression that European countries seem to be more eager to try out new (read, other than MS) technology than US entities. Seeing as MS still managed to INCREASE quarterly profits over last years 1Q profits, how is that even possible with the weak global economy, license increases, slow x-box and office xp sales, all that coupled with reports week in week out that we keep hearing about concerning defections to both Open Source software as well as Linux, especially outside the US. Dunno, creative accounting? MS is strong in the US, fine, but what about elsewhere? Europe? South America? What do you guys think? Regards Senkwe Just another wannabe code junky
Hi, I actually think MS is stronger in Europe than in the US. The problem with most software is that it is made for the US market (f.e. seldom in other languages than english, inches instead of mm etc.) whereas MS (who still makes software mostly with US in mind) has a lot of adaptions for different markets. In other regions (like China for instance) they don't have the money to buy MS products (and don't have a lot of previous investments in them) so they opt for other systems. Johannes
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Hi guys, if you're from Europe or anywhere outside the US, how strong do you believe MS is where you live? I ask because I get the impression that European countries seem to be more eager to try out new (read, other than MS) technology than US entities. Seeing as MS still managed to INCREASE quarterly profits over last years 1Q profits, how is that even possible with the weak global economy, license increases, slow x-box and office xp sales, all that coupled with reports week in week out that we keep hearing about concerning defections to both Open Source software as well as Linux, especially outside the US. Dunno, creative accounting? MS is strong in the US, fine, but what about elsewhere? Europe? South America? What do you guys think? Regards Senkwe Just another wannabe code junky
There is talk that unrealised profit was realised in this round, and that there was a one-off asset sale (forget the details) that may have helped boost the bottom dollar. cheers, Chris Maunder
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The support in SA is pretty good. Monthly events: MSDN essentials, technet essentials, + other Yearly events: Devdays, TechEd. Two things that piss me off: 1. no MS development gets done here 2. Bill doesn't want to come out here for teched. :( Cheers, Simon "I get paid for my brain and my thinking in several obscure worlds", Olli, The Lounge
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Hi guys, if you're from Europe or anywhere outside the US, how strong do you believe MS is where you live? I ask because I get the impression that European countries seem to be more eager to try out new (read, other than MS) technology than US entities. Seeing as MS still managed to INCREASE quarterly profits over last years 1Q profits, how is that even possible with the weak global economy, license increases, slow x-box and office xp sales, all that coupled with reports week in week out that we keep hearing about concerning defections to both Open Source software as well as Linux, especially outside the US. Dunno, creative accounting? MS is strong in the US, fine, but what about elsewhere? Europe? South America? What do you guys think? Regards Senkwe Just another wannabe code junky
For my country, Germany, I think MS has a position like in the US, strong economic power, every people who are new to the PC use their systems. Linux is an option to more experienced users and programmers.
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The support in SA is pretty good. Monthly events: MSDN essentials, technet essentials, + other Yearly events: Devdays, TechEd. Two things that piss me off: 1. no MS development gets done here 2. Bill doesn't want to come out here for teched. :( Cheers, Simon "I get paid for my brain and my thinking in several obscure worlds", Olli, The Lounge
simons wrote: no MS development gets done here Do you mean no MS software development as in Office etc? I think the folks at sourcecode are doing some interesting stuff, proving that MS could concievably move a dev house or two down here :-) Just another wannabe code junky
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simons wrote: no MS development gets done here Do you mean no MS software development as in Office etc? I think the folks at sourcecode are doing some interesting stuff, proving that MS could concievably move a dev house or two down here :-) Just another wannabe code junky
Senkwe Chanda wrote: I think the folks at sourcecode are doing some interesting stuff Agreed. K2.NET is v. cool. I did mean that Microsoft themselves don't do dev. work here, though. (MCS might do a bit, but not for MS corp.) Cheers, Simon "I get paid for my brain and my thinking in several obscure worlds", Olli, The Lounge
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Hi SimonS, last time i think, Bill was in Germany, i thought he was hit by a layer cake..... don't think he's comming again that soon.... so you're not alone beeing alone ! :-D Olli :-D
That was in Belgium and had nothing to do with anti-microsoft activism but with an organisation dedicated to pelting the high & mighty with cake & pie. Bill Gates has been back to Belgium after that incident.
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Hi guys, if you're from Europe or anywhere outside the US, how strong do you believe MS is where you live? I ask because I get the impression that European countries seem to be more eager to try out new (read, other than MS) technology than US entities. Seeing as MS still managed to INCREASE quarterly profits over last years 1Q profits, how is that even possible with the weak global economy, license increases, slow x-box and office xp sales, all that coupled with reports week in week out that we keep hearing about concerning defections to both Open Source software as well as Linux, especially outside the US. Dunno, creative accounting? MS is strong in the US, fine, but what about elsewhere? Europe? South America? What do you guys think? Regards Senkwe Just another wannabe code junky
MS is quite strong in Belgium with several major contracts for the government & several major companies. Recently they struck a deal with the Department of Education to supply schools with very cheap Windows & Office licenses.
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That was in Belgium and had nothing to do with anti-microsoft activism but with an organisation dedicated to pelting the high & mighty with cake & pie. Bill Gates has been back to Belgium after that incident.
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Not half as funny as seeing our former prime minister trying to dodge a pie when watching a football game ;P