Isn't it convenient...
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...that Foley is both an alcoholic AND a victim of sexual abuse by a priest? I mean, like wow - despite the likelihood that these claims are false, those are the best reasons I've ever heard to explain why he is a child molester and pedophile. Next thing you know, he'll be blaming his actions on alien abduction experiences. The absurd-o-meter had to be replaced yesterday because it exploded in spectacular fashion when this news came out.
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001 -
There is a difference between an excuse and an explication. The advanced reasons might be the latter, not the former.
We're the regulators that de-regulate We're the animators that de-animate
A left-wing Frenchman defending a ped? Geee....I never saw that coming! :laugh:
"You act like jew." -Score: 1.0 (3 votes).
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Red Stateler wrote:
Then don't.
I'm not. He's a creep, I'm glad he's gone. Its just too bad the dems waited so long to provide the evidence needed to get him out.
Thank God for disproportional force.
Stan Shannon wrote:
Its just too bad the dems waited so long to provide the evidence needed to get him out.
The dems waited? Bzzz, wrong! It's the reps who waited -- actually worse, they kept it under wraps for almost a year. As much as you'd like this to be a Democratic conspiracy, it's not. Your party f*cked up again, get over it.
If [God] knows what we are going to do then we have no free will and are just characters in a play written by him. Without free will, morality for humans makes no sense. Without free will and morality, any sort of punishment or reward system loses any justification. Heaven and hell would be places where [God] could watch the souls he created, predestined just for eternal happiness or agony. - Mark Thomas
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Stan Shannon wrote:
Its just too bad the dems waited so long to provide the evidence needed to get him out.
The dems waited? Bzzz, wrong! It's the reps who waited -- actually worse, they kept it under wraps for almost a year. As much as you'd like this to be a Democratic conspiracy, it's not. Your party f*cked up again, get over it.
If [God] knows what we are going to do then we have no free will and are just characters in a play written by him. Without free will, morality for humans makes no sense. Without free will and morality, any sort of punishment or reward system loses any justification. Heaven and hell would be places where [God] could watch the souls he created, predestined just for eternal happiness or agony. - Mark Thomas
Alvaro Mendez wrote:
As much as you'd like this to be a Democratic conspiracy, it's not.
Yeah, the Democrats never try stuff like this *cough*Dan Rather*cough*. From the looks of it, the Republicans were aware of innocuous email exchanges that didn't indicate any luridness. The IMs, which were 3 years old, were apparently kept under wraps until 1 month prior to a pivitol election. Now that's being spun by the left for people who don't know the difference between an IM and an email in an attempt to bring down the Republicans. This is consistent with past Democrat tactics and Stan raises a good question. Who exactly did keep the IMs under wrap?
"You act like jew." -Score: 1.0 (3 votes).
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Stan Shannon wrote:
Its just too bad the dems waited so long to provide the evidence needed to get him out.
The dems waited? Bzzz, wrong! It's the reps who waited -- actually worse, they kept it under wraps for almost a year. As much as you'd like this to be a Democratic conspiracy, it's not. Your party f*cked up again, get over it.
If [God] knows what we are going to do then we have no free will and are just characters in a play written by him. Without free will, morality for humans makes no sense. Without free will and morality, any sort of punishment or reward system loses any justification. Heaven and hell would be places where [God] could watch the souls he created, predestined just for eternal happiness or agony. - Mark Thomas
Sorry, but the day and age when the dems could push this kind of propaganda as 'news' is long past. Get used to it. It is certainly the dems who provided the information to ABC news timed precisely to maximize the political impact. They've been setting on the more damning information for months, if not years. If you are stupid enough, and brainwashed enough, to believe otherwise I feel sorry for you. The democrats are evil scumbags who live off of this very kind of vile political treachery. They've done it for decades and it is absolutely pathetic that they continue to get away with it by people such as yourself.
Thank God for disproportional force.
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There comes a point in everyone's lives when they should stop blaming others for the problems they're facing and deal with them head on, like adults. It's too easy to shift blame for your actions to a third party and, therefore, avoid any consequences and no matter what has been done to you in the past there is no justification for taking your anger and frustration out on others under any circumstances.
digital man wrote:
There comes a point in everyone's lives when they should stop blaming others for the problems they're facing and deal with them head on, like adults.
Problem is, a lot of adults play the "blame others" game, too. I don't think age is as much a factor as honesty and integrity are.
"Approved Workmen Are Not Ashamed" - 2 Timothy 2:15
"Judge not by the eye but by the heart." - Native American Proverb
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...that Foley is both an alcoholic AND a victim of sexual abuse by a priest? I mean, like wow - despite the likelihood that these claims are false, those are the best reasons I've ever heard to explain why he is a child molester and pedophile. Next thing you know, he'll be blaming his actions on alien abduction experiences. The absurd-o-meter had to be replaced yesterday because it exploded in spectacular fashion when this news came out.
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001There is a word in the English language that I try to use as infrequently as possible. It is excuse. How or why our society has come to accept an excuse when someone fucks up royally and to then simply move on, is beyond me. If these allegations against Foley are proven, he deserves jail time, big time. Regardless of the alcohol or priests.
Chris Meech I am Canadian. [heard in a local bar] Nobody likes jerks. [espeir] The zen of the soapbox is hard to attain...[Jörgen Sigvardsson] I wish I could remember what it was like to only have a short term memory.[David Kentley]
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Sorry, but the day and age when the dems could push this kind of propaganda as 'news' is long past. Get used to it. It is certainly the dems who provided the information to ABC news timed precisely to maximize the political impact. They've been setting on the more damning information for months, if not years. If you are stupid enough, and brainwashed enough, to believe otherwise I feel sorry for you. The democrats are evil scumbags who live off of this very kind of vile political treachery. They've done it for decades and it is absolutely pathetic that they continue to get away with it by people such as yourself.
Thank God for disproportional force.
Stan Shannon wrote:
The democrats are evil scumbags who live off of this very kind of vile political treachery.
Yes, them evil scumbags.
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Stan Shannon wrote:
The democrats are evil scumbags who live off of this very kind of vile political treachery.
Yes, them evil scumbags.
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Yes, them evil scumbags.
They can't help it though - Marx makes 'em do it.
Thank God for disproportional force.
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My ass right back at you. A 16 year old teenager is hardly a 'child'. Underage? Yes. A child? No. I have no problem with the man being thrown out of congress, I have no problem with him going to jail for what he has done. But the fact remains that what he is actually so far accused of is not as bad as someone acutally physically molesting an innocent child. Most of this evidence is three years old, there is no evidence that I've seen that he has done anything subsequent to that. To make anything more out of it than that is nothing but political hypocrisy[^]. If you want real absurdity, there it is.
John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
This guy was on the fast track to actually being a child molester,
Oh, bullshit, there is not a man alive who has not been sexually attracted to underage teenage girls. That does not make us child molesters. Certainly if we pursue those interests we should be punished, if not put in jail, but that doesn't change the simple reality of it.
John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
Washington DC isn't one of those "16 is the legal age of consent" states
Are you sure? I've heard and read that it is.
Thank God for disproportional force.
Oh how I love watching you guys fall over yourselves defending this seriously damaged guy. 16 years old - not a child. Innocuous e-mails. Democratic conspiracy. Absolutely pathetic. Foley has serious problems, the R leadership had very clear signs, but instead chose to supress it. That's the conspiracy. That it came out shortly before the election is completely the fault of the Republicans. They could have gotten out in front of this, but didn't. Best of all - the conservative Washington Times Resign, Mr. Speaker[^] has called for Hastert's resignation.
No eternal reward will forgive us now for wasting the dawn. - Jim Morrison
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Oh how I love watching you guys fall over yourselves defending this seriously damaged guy. 16 years old - not a child. Innocuous e-mails. Democratic conspiracy. Absolutely pathetic. Foley has serious problems, the R leadership had very clear signs, but instead chose to supress it. That's the conspiracy. That it came out shortly before the election is completely the fault of the Republicans. They could have gotten out in front of this, but didn't. Best of all - the conservative Washington Times Resign, Mr. Speaker[^] has called for Hastert's resignation.
No eternal reward will forgive us now for wasting the dawn. - Jim Morrison
Bullshit. The republican leadership was ahead of the issue - they had dealt with it and didn't surpress anything - unless, again, you are suggesting that they should have gone on a witch hunt against all homosexual congressmen based on virtually no evidence at all. Is that what they should have done? Was Foley supposed to be forced to resign because he was a homosexual and had a friendly conversation with a page. On what basis were the republicans supposed to do more than they did? The only surpressing being done was whoever was holding on to the IMs. How fucking stupid do you have to be to not understand that? I hope you're happy with your scumbag party that can only win elections with these kind of scams and not by debating the issues.
Thank God for disproportional force.
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Bullshit. The republican leadership was ahead of the issue - they had dealt with it and didn't surpress anything - unless, again, you are suggesting that they should have gone on a witch hunt against all homosexual congressmen based on virtually no evidence at all. Is that what they should have done? Was Foley supposed to be forced to resign because he was a homosexual and had a friendly conversation with a page. On what basis were the republicans supposed to do more than they did? The only surpressing being done was whoever was holding on to the IMs. How fucking stupid do you have to be to not understand that? I hope you're happy with your scumbag party that can only win elections with these kind of scams and not by debating the issues.
Thank God for disproportional force.
Stan Shannon wrote:
How f****ing stupid do you have to be to not understand that?
Ummmmm...This is dennisd45 we're talking about.
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Stan Shannon wrote:
I don't want to defend Foley
Then don't. There was obviously enough evidence to prompt him to resign within hours of its exposure. Whether or not he molested anybody might be up in the air, but he's certainly a pedophile and rightfully removed himself. I'm just glad he wasn't a Democrat because his actions won't be defended and justified (as in the cases of the at least 3 other Democrats who did the same thing and got away with it).
"You act like jew." -Score: 1.0 (3 votes).
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Sorry, but the day and age when the dems could push this kind of propaganda as 'news' is long past. Get used to it. It is certainly the dems who provided the information to ABC news timed precisely to maximize the political impact. They've been setting on the more damning information for months, if not years. If you are stupid enough, and brainwashed enough, to believe otherwise I feel sorry for you. The democrats are evil scumbags who live off of this very kind of vile political treachery. They've done it for decades and it is absolutely pathetic that they continue to get away with it by people such as yourself.
Thank God for disproportional force.
Stan Shannon wrote:
It is certainly the dems who provided the information to ABC news timed precisely to maximize the political impact.
Did you expect anything less? No! Would the Republicans have done any different if the roles were reversed? Hell no! The whole mess is going down EXACTLY as anyone with half a brain could have predicted and EXACTLY the same if the party affiliations were reversed. Stan, you're too intelligent to not fully understand that the Republicans are just as slimey as the Democrats and it's disingenuous to act otherwise. X|
"Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind." - Dr. Seuss
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Dan Crane and Robert Bauman. Two Republican pedophiles, defended by Republicans. They did it then, now they did it again. Oh, the hypocrisy.
No eternal reward will forgive us now for wasting the dawn. - Jim Morrison
Get your facts straight. The Republican leadership wanted them kicked out of Congress, but because the Democrats (who were in control) had recently only censured one of their own (who later went on to win re-election), they only censured them. Ask Newt. He led the fight. Republicans had enough sense not to put either of them back into office...Unlike Barney Frank. The difference is clear. Republicans kick out these perverts and Democrats reward them. Given the Democrats long history of this sort of thing, and given the hypocrisy is their only vice, it is therefore immoral for them to complain.
"You act like jew." -Score: 1.0 (3 votes).
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Bullshit. The republican leadership was ahead of the issue - they had dealt with it and didn't surpress anything - unless, again, you are suggesting that they should have gone on a witch hunt against all homosexual congressmen based on virtually no evidence at all. Is that what they should have done? Was Foley supposed to be forced to resign because he was a homosexual and had a friendly conversation with a page. On what basis were the republicans supposed to do more than they did? The only surpressing being done was whoever was holding on to the IMs. How fucking stupid do you have to be to not understand that? I hope you're happy with your scumbag party that can only win elections with these kind of scams and not by debating the issues.
Thank God for disproportional force.
Poor Stan and espeir. Let's see the R's gained power in 94 because of the House banking scandal (How horrible to have a bank overdraft!). Now the R's may lose power because of Abrahmoff, and bribery and sex scandals. How unfair!
Stan Shannon wrote:
How f****ing stupid do you have to be to not understand that?
I can understand how frustrated you must get defending a pedophile.:laugh:
No eternal reward will forgive us now for wasting the dawn. - Jim Morrison
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Bullshit. The republican leadership was ahead of the issue - they had dealt with it and didn't surpress anything - unless, again, you are suggesting that they should have gone on a witch hunt against all homosexual congressmen based on virtually no evidence at all. Is that what they should have done? Was Foley supposed to be forced to resign because he was a homosexual and had a friendly conversation with a page. On what basis were the republicans supposed to do more than they did? The only surpressing being done was whoever was holding on to the IMs. How fucking stupid do you have to be to not understand that? I hope you're happy with your scumbag party that can only win elections with these kind of scams and not by debating the issues.
Thank God for disproportional force.
Stan Shannon wrote:
you are suggesting that they should have gone on a witch hunt against all homosexual congressmen based on virtually no evidence at all.
Maybe you should stop equating all homosexual men with middle aged creeps who send sexual e-mails to young boys first. Claiming that you should do nothing against a pedophile for fear of being accussed of gay bashing is, in itself, gay bashing. gay != pedophile
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Get your facts straight. The Republican leadership wanted them kicked out of Congress, but because the Democrats (who were in control) had recently only censured one of their own (who later went on to win re-election), they only censured them. Ask Newt. He led the fight. Republicans had enough sense not to put either of them back into office...Unlike Barney Frank. The difference is clear. Republicans kick out these perverts and Democrats reward them. Given the Democrats long history of this sort of thing, and given the hypocrisy is their only vice, it is therefore immoral for them to complain.
"You act like jew." -Score: 1.0 (3 votes).
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Poor Stan and espeir. Let's see the R's gained power in 94 because of the House banking scandal (How horrible to have a bank overdraft!). Now the R's may lose power because of Abrahmoff, and bribery and sex scandals. How unfair!
Stan Shannon wrote:
How f****ing stupid do you have to be to not understand that?
I can understand how frustrated you must get defending a pedophile.:laugh:
No eternal reward will forgive us now for wasting the dawn. - Jim Morrison
dennisd45 wrote:
Poor Stan and espeir. Let's see the R's gained power in 94 because of the House banking scandal (How horrible to have a bank overdraft!). Now the R's may lose power because of Abrahmoff, and bribery and sex scandals. How unfair!
They were actually kicked out because they sucked.
dennisd45 wrote:
I can understand how frustrated you must get defending a pedophile.
Nobody's defending a pedophile. In fact we Republicans clearly wanted him out of Congress. We're not Democrats for crying out loud!
"You act like jew." -Score: 1.0 (3 votes).
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espeir defending pedophiles. How rich! Ask Gatsky for a NAMBLA membership, I'm sure he can get you one.:laugh:
No eternal reward will forgive us now for wasting the dawn. - Jim Morrison
OK...So favoring the prosecution and removal of Republicans in office who are pedophiles is "defending pedophiles" while giving standing ovations to Democrats who actually molested children is condemning pedophiles. Hmmmmm...Did you cross over from Bizarro World?
"You act like jew." -Score: 1.0 (3 votes).