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  • S Stan Shannon

    Sorry, but the day and age when the dems could push this kind of propaganda as 'news' is long past. Get used to it. It is certainly the dems who provided the information to ABC news timed precisely to maximize the political impact. They've been setting on the more damning information for months, if not years. If you are stupid enough, and brainwashed enough, to believe otherwise I feel sorry for you. The democrats are evil scumbags who live off of this very kind of vile political treachery. They've done it for decades and it is absolutely pathetic that they continue to get away with it by people such as yourself.

    Thank God for disproportional force.

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    Stan Shannon wrote:

    The democrats are evil scumbags who live off of this very kind of vile political treachery.

    Yes, them evil scumbags.

    =====Brain melting code===== static int Sqrt(int x){ if (x<0) throw new ArgumentOutOfRangeException(); int temp, y=0, b=0x8000, bshft=15, v=x; do { if (v>=(temp=(y<<1)+b<>=1)>0); return y; :omg: ====TSI TLFL EEOOLHTG===== ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Decode that and you will win.;P ============Hint=========== cout << "33 20 57 4F 52 44 53 62 63 6B 77 6F 72 64 73";

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      Stan Shannon wrote:

      The democrats are evil scumbags who live off of this very kind of vile political treachery.

      Yes, them evil scumbags.

      =====Brain melting code===== static int Sqrt(int x){ if (x<0) throw new ArgumentOutOfRangeException(); int temp, y=0, b=0x8000, bshft=15, v=x; do { if (v>=(temp=(y<<1)+b<>=1)>0); return y; :omg: ====TSI TLFL EEOOLHTG===== ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Decode that and you will win.;P ============Hint=========== cout << "33 20 57 4F 52 44 53 62 63 6B 77 6F 72 64 73";

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      Henize wrote:

      Yes, them evil scumbags.

      They can't help it though - Marx makes 'em do it.

      Thank God for disproportional force.

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      • S Stan Shannon

        My ass right back at you. A 16 year old teenager is hardly a 'child'. Underage? Yes. A child? No. I have no problem with the man being thrown out of congress, I have no problem with him going to jail for what he has done. But the fact remains that what he is actually so far accused of is not as bad as someone acutally physically molesting an innocent child. Most of this evidence is three years old, there is no evidence that I've seen that he has done anything subsequent to that. To make anything more out of it than that is nothing but political hypocrisy[^]. If you want real absurdity, there it is.

        John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

        This guy was on the fast track to actually being a child molester,

        Oh, bullshit, there is not a man alive who has not been sexually attracted to underage teenage girls. That does not make us child molesters. Certainly if we pursue those interests we should be punished, if not put in jail, but that doesn't change the simple reality of it.

        John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

        Washington DC isn't one of those "16 is the legal age of consent" states

        Are you sure? I've heard and read that it is.

        Thank God for disproportional force.

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        Oh how I love watching you guys fall over yourselves defending this seriously damaged guy. 16 years old - not a child. Innocuous e-mails. Democratic conspiracy. Absolutely pathetic. Foley has serious problems, the R leadership had very clear signs, but instead chose to supress it. That's the conspiracy. That it came out shortly before the election is completely the fault of the Republicans. They could have gotten out in front of this, but didn't. Best of all - the conservative Washington Times Resign, Mr. Speaker[^] has called for Hastert's resignation.

        No eternal reward will forgive us now for wasting the dawn. - Jim Morrison

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          Oh how I love watching you guys fall over yourselves defending this seriously damaged guy. 16 years old - not a child. Innocuous e-mails. Democratic conspiracy. Absolutely pathetic. Foley has serious problems, the R leadership had very clear signs, but instead chose to supress it. That's the conspiracy. That it came out shortly before the election is completely the fault of the Republicans. They could have gotten out in front of this, but didn't. Best of all - the conservative Washington Times Resign, Mr. Speaker[^] has called for Hastert's resignation.

          No eternal reward will forgive us now for wasting the dawn. - Jim Morrison

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          Bullshit. The republican leadership was ahead of the issue - they had dealt with it and didn't surpress anything - unless, again, you are suggesting that they should have gone on a witch hunt against all homosexual congressmen based on virtually no evidence at all. Is that what they should have done? Was Foley supposed to be forced to resign because he was a homosexual and had a friendly conversation with a page. On what basis were the republicans supposed to do more than they did? The only surpressing being done was whoever was holding on to the IMs. How fucking stupid do you have to be to not understand that? I hope you're happy with your scumbag party that can only win elections with these kind of scams and not by debating the issues.

          Thank God for disproportional force.

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          • S Stan Shannon

            Bullshit. The republican leadership was ahead of the issue - they had dealt with it and didn't surpress anything - unless, again, you are suggesting that they should have gone on a witch hunt against all homosexual congressmen based on virtually no evidence at all. Is that what they should have done? Was Foley supposed to be forced to resign because he was a homosexual and had a friendly conversation with a page. On what basis were the republicans supposed to do more than they did? The only surpressing being done was whoever was holding on to the IMs. How fucking stupid do you have to be to not understand that? I hope you're happy with your scumbag party that can only win elections with these kind of scams and not by debating the issues.

            Thank God for disproportional force.

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            Stan Shannon wrote:

            How f****ing stupid do you have to be to not understand that?

            Ummmmm...This is dennisd45 we're talking about.


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              Stan Shannon wrote:

              I don't want to defend Foley

              Then don't. There was obviously enough evidence to prompt him to resign within hours of its exposure. Whether or not he molested anybody might be up in the air, but he's certainly a pedophile and rightfully removed himself. I'm just glad he wasn't a Democrat because his actions won't be defended and justified (as in the cases of the at least 3 other Democrats who did the same thing and got away with it).


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              Dan Crane and Robert Bauman. Two Republican pedophiles, defended by Republicans. They did it then, now they did it again. Oh, the hypocrisy.

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              • S Stan Shannon

                Sorry, but the day and age when the dems could push this kind of propaganda as 'news' is long past. Get used to it. It is certainly the dems who provided the information to ABC news timed precisely to maximize the political impact. They've been setting on the more damning information for months, if not years. If you are stupid enough, and brainwashed enough, to believe otherwise I feel sorry for you. The democrats are evil scumbags who live off of this very kind of vile political treachery. They've done it for decades and it is absolutely pathetic that they continue to get away with it by people such as yourself.

                Thank God for disproportional force.

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                Stan Shannon wrote:

                It is certainly the dems who provided the information to ABC news timed precisely to maximize the political impact.

                Did you expect anything less? No! Would the Republicans have done any different if the roles were reversed? Hell no! The whole mess is going down EXACTLY as anyone with half a brain could have predicted and EXACTLY the same if the party affiliations were reversed. Stan, you're too intelligent to not fully understand that the Republicans are just as slimey as the Democrats and it's disingenuous to act otherwise. X|

                "Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind." - Dr. Seuss

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                • D dennisd45

                  Dan Crane and Robert Bauman. Two Republican pedophiles, defended by Republicans. They did it then, now they did it again. Oh, the hypocrisy.

                  No eternal reward will forgive us now for wasting the dawn. - Jim Morrison

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                  Get your facts straight. The Republican leadership wanted them kicked out of Congress, but because the Democrats (who were in control) had recently only censured one of their own (who later went on to win re-election), they only censured them. Ask Newt. He led the fight. Republicans had enough sense not to put either of them back into office...Unlike Barney Frank. The difference is clear. Republicans kick out these perverts and Democrats reward them. Given the Democrats long history of this sort of thing, and given the hypocrisy is their only vice, it is therefore immoral for them to complain.


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                  • S Stan Shannon

                    Bullshit. The republican leadership was ahead of the issue - they had dealt with it and didn't surpress anything - unless, again, you are suggesting that they should have gone on a witch hunt against all homosexual congressmen based on virtually no evidence at all. Is that what they should have done? Was Foley supposed to be forced to resign because he was a homosexual and had a friendly conversation with a page. On what basis were the republicans supposed to do more than they did? The only surpressing being done was whoever was holding on to the IMs. How fucking stupid do you have to be to not understand that? I hope you're happy with your scumbag party that can only win elections with these kind of scams and not by debating the issues.

                    Thank God for disproportional force.

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                    Poor Stan and espeir. Let's see the R's gained power in 94 because of the House banking scandal (How horrible to have a bank overdraft!). Now the R's may lose power because of Abrahmoff, and bribery and sex scandals. How unfair!

                    Stan Shannon wrote:

                    How f****ing stupid do you have to be to not understand that?

                    I can understand how frustrated you must get defending a pedophile.:laugh:

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                    • S Stan Shannon

                      Bullshit. The republican leadership was ahead of the issue - they had dealt with it and didn't surpress anything - unless, again, you are suggesting that they should have gone on a witch hunt against all homosexual congressmen based on virtually no evidence at all. Is that what they should have done? Was Foley supposed to be forced to resign because he was a homosexual and had a friendly conversation with a page. On what basis were the republicans supposed to do more than they did? The only surpressing being done was whoever was holding on to the IMs. How fucking stupid do you have to be to not understand that? I hope you're happy with your scumbag party that can only win elections with these kind of scams and not by debating the issues.

                      Thank God for disproportional force.

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                      Stan Shannon wrote:

                      you are suggesting that they should have gone on a witch hunt against all homosexual congressmen based on virtually no evidence at all.

                      Maybe you should stop equating all homosexual men with middle aged creeps who send sexual e-mails to young boys first. Claiming that you should do nothing against a pedophile for fear of being accussed of gay bashing is, in itself, gay bashing. gay != pedophile

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                        Get your facts straight. The Republican leadership wanted them kicked out of Congress, but because the Democrats (who were in control) had recently only censured one of their own (who later went on to win re-election), they only censured them. Ask Newt. He led the fight. Republicans had enough sense not to put either of them back into office...Unlike Barney Frank. The difference is clear. Republicans kick out these perverts and Democrats reward them. Given the Democrats long history of this sort of thing, and given the hypocrisy is their only vice, it is therefore immoral for them to complain.


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                        espeir defending pedophiles. How rich! Ask Gatsky for a NAMBLA membership, I'm sure he can get you one.:laugh:

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                        • D dennisd45

                          Poor Stan and espeir. Let's see the R's gained power in 94 because of the House banking scandal (How horrible to have a bank overdraft!). Now the R's may lose power because of Abrahmoff, and bribery and sex scandals. How unfair!

                          Stan Shannon wrote:

                          How f****ing stupid do you have to be to not understand that?

                          I can understand how frustrated you must get defending a pedophile.:laugh:

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                          dennisd45 wrote:

                          Poor Stan and espeir. Let's see the R's gained power in 94 because of the House banking scandal (How horrible to have a bank overdraft!). Now the R's may lose power because of Abrahmoff, and bribery and sex scandals. How unfair!

                          They were actually kicked out because they sucked.

                          dennisd45 wrote:

                          I can understand how frustrated you must get defending a pedophile.

                          Nobody's defending a pedophile. In fact we Republicans clearly wanted him out of Congress. We're not Democrats for crying out loud!


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                            espeir defending pedophiles. How rich! Ask Gatsky for a NAMBLA membership, I'm sure he can get you one.:laugh:

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                            OK...So favoring the prosecution and removal of Republicans in office who are pedophiles is "defending pedophiles" while giving standing ovations to Democrats who actually molested children is condemning pedophiles. Hmmmmm...Did you cross over from Bizarro World?


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                              dennisd45 wrote:

                              Poor Stan and espeir. Let's see the R's gained power in 94 because of the House banking scandal (How horrible to have a bank overdraft!). Now the R's may lose power because of Abrahmoff, and bribery and sex scandals. How unfair!

                              They were actually kicked out because they sucked.

                              dennisd45 wrote:

                              I can understand how frustrated you must get defending a pedophile.

                              Nobody's defending a pedophile. In fact we Republicans clearly wanted him out of Congress. We're not Democrats for crying out loud!


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                              Every time you try to blame it on the Democrats for this, you defend pedophilia.

                              Red Stateler wrote:

                              They were actually kicked out because they sucked.

                              That's what's happening to the R's right now. (In this case I guess some R's suck more than others).:laugh:

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                                OK...So favoring the prosecution and removal of Republicans in office who are pedophiles is "defending pedophiles" while giving standing ovations to Democrats who actually molested children is condemning pedophiles. Hmmmmm...Did you cross over from Bizarro World?


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                                By making bizarre comments about Democrats, you are trying to deflect the criticism the R's so rightly deserve, so yeah you are defending pedophiles.

                                Red Stateler wrote:

                                Did you cross over from Bizarro World?

                                You, of all people - the king of the bizarre argument - what a laugh!

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                                • D dennisd45

                                  Every time you try to blame it on the Democrats for this, you defend pedophilia.

                                  Red Stateler wrote:

                                  They were actually kicked out because they sucked.

                                  That's what's happening to the R's right now. (In this case I guess some R's suck more than others).:laugh:

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                                  dennisd45 wrote:

                                  Every time you try to blame it on the Democrats for this, you defend pedophilia.

                                  Actually Stan and I are both blaming the Democrats for concealing the pedophilia. Of course, in Bizarro World, that translates into defending pedophilia.


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                                    By making bizarre comments about Democrats, you are trying to deflect the criticism the R's so rightly deserve, so yeah you are defending pedophiles.

                                    Red Stateler wrote:

                                    Did you cross over from Bizarro World?

                                    You, of all people - the king of the bizarre argument - what a laugh!

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                                    dennisd45 wrote:

                                    By making bizarre comments about Democrats, you are trying to deflect the criticism the R's so rightly deserve, so yeah you are defending pedophiles.

                                    No, the point is that Republicans took action once the information was revealed whereas Democrats have a long history of promoting such people after the information was revealed. Our complaint is that it appears the Democrats were responsible for concealing the information until a politically opportune time, thereby promoting pedophilia and possibly making them guilty of obstruction of justice.


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                                      Stan Shannon wrote:

                                      you are suggesting that they should have gone on a witch hunt against all homosexual congressmen based on virtually no evidence at all.

                                      Maybe you should stop equating all homosexual men with middle aged creeps who send sexual e-mails to young boys first. Claiming that you should do nothing against a pedophile for fear of being accussed of gay bashing is, in itself, gay bashing. gay != pedophile

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                                      Oh, for fucks sake, would you keep up. I'm not the one saying it. Anyone who suggests that the Republican leadership should have 'done more' when they found out about the e-mails need to explain on what basis that should have been done. The only thing the republicans knew was that Foley was suspected of being gay, and had sent an "overly friendly" email to a former page. And on that basis, the democrats are saying the republicans should have launched an investigation into Foley's behavior. All I am asking is why? Unless the Republicans were supposed to equate homosexuality and pedophilia, why were they supposed to do anything more than ask Foley to stop emailing former pages just as they would have done for anyone else? Otherwise, on what basis would any investigation have been warrented?

                                      Thank God for disproportional force.

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                                      • D dennisd45

                                        Every time you try to blame it on the Democrats for this, you defend pedophilia.

                                        Red Stateler wrote:

                                        They were actually kicked out because they sucked.

                                        That's what's happening to the R's right now. (In this case I guess some R's suck more than others).:laugh:

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                                        dennisd45 wrote:

                                        Every time you try to blame it on the Democrats for this, you defend pedophilia.

                                        Firstly, there was no pedophilia - even if Foley did everthing alleged. The worst thing you might call it is virtual statutory rape. But even that isn't valid becuase 16 is the age of consent in Washington DC. So not only is FOley not a pedophile, he isn't even a criminal - just a creep. Secondly, if it is pedophilia, the dems have a long history of defending it. All Foley had to do was change parties, and he would have been right at home. So excuse me if I politely tell you to kiss my ass you hypocritic.

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                                          Stan Shannon wrote:

                                          you are suggesting that they should have gone on a witch hunt against all homosexual congressmen based on virtually no evidence at all.

                                          Maybe you should stop equating all homosexual men with middle aged creeps who send sexual e-mails to young boys first. Claiming that you should do nothing against a pedophile for fear of being accussed of gay bashing is, in itself, gay bashing. gay != pedophile

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                                          Wjousts wrote:

                                          equating all homosexual men with middle aged creeps

                                          I believe they are. I also believe homosexuality is a mental illness or condition.

                                          =====Brain melting code===== static int Sqrt(int x){ if (x<0) throw new ArgumentOutOfRangeException(); int temp, y=0, b=0x8000, bshft=15, v=x; do { if (v>=(temp=(y<<1)+b<>=1)>0); return y; :omg: ====TSI TLFL EEOOLHTG===== ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Decode that and you will win.;P ============Hint=========== cout << "33 20 57 4F 52 44 53 62 63 6B 77 6F 72 64 73";

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