Isn't it convenient...
-
Stan Shannon wrote:
you are suggesting that they should have gone on a witch hunt against all homosexual congressmen based on virtually no evidence at all.
Maybe you should stop equating all homosexual men with middle aged creeps who send sexual e-mails to young boys first. Claiming that you should do nothing against a pedophile for fear of being accussed of gay bashing is, in itself, gay bashing. gay != pedophile
Oh, for fucks sake, would you keep up. I'm not the one saying it. Anyone who suggests that the Republican leadership should have 'done more' when they found out about the e-mails need to explain on what basis that should have been done. The only thing the republicans knew was that Foley was suspected of being gay, and had sent an "overly friendly" email to a former page. And on that basis, the democrats are saying the republicans should have launched an investigation into Foley's behavior. All I am asking is why? Unless the Republicans were supposed to equate homosexuality and pedophilia, why were they supposed to do anything more than ask Foley to stop emailing former pages just as they would have done for anyone else? Otherwise, on what basis would any investigation have been warrented?
Thank God for disproportional force.
-
Every time you try to blame it on the Democrats for this, you defend pedophilia.
Red Stateler wrote:
They were actually kicked out because they sucked.
That's what's happening to the R's right now. (In this case I guess some R's suck more than others).:laugh:
No eternal reward will forgive us now for wasting the dawn. - Jim Morrison
dennisd45 wrote:
Every time you try to blame it on the Democrats for this, you defend pedophilia.
Firstly, there was no pedophilia - even if Foley did everthing alleged. The worst thing you might call it is virtual statutory rape. But even that isn't valid becuase 16 is the age of consent in Washington DC. So not only is FOley not a pedophile, he isn't even a criminal - just a creep. Secondly, if it is pedophilia, the dems have a long history of defending it. All Foley had to do was change parties, and he would have been right at home. So excuse me if I politely tell you to kiss my ass you hypocritic.
Thank God for disproportional force.
-
Stan Shannon wrote:
you are suggesting that they should have gone on a witch hunt against all homosexual congressmen based on virtually no evidence at all.
Maybe you should stop equating all homosexual men with middle aged creeps who send sexual e-mails to young boys first. Claiming that you should do nothing against a pedophile for fear of being accussed of gay bashing is, in itself, gay bashing. gay != pedophile
Wjousts wrote:
equating all homosexual men with middle aged creeps
I believe they are. I also believe homosexuality is a mental illness or condition.
=====Brain melting code=====
static int Sqrt(int x){ if (x<0) throw new ArgumentOutOfRangeException(); int temp, y=0, b=0x8000, bshft=15, v=x; do { if (v>=(temp=(y<<1)+b<>=1)>0); return y; :omg:====TSI TLFL EEOOLHTG===== ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Decode that and you will win.;P ============Hint=========== cout << "33 20 57 4F 52 44 53 62 63 6B 77 6F 72 64 73"; -
Oh, for fucks sake, would you keep up. I'm not the one saying it. Anyone who suggests that the Republican leadership should have 'done more' when they found out about the e-mails need to explain on what basis that should have been done. The only thing the republicans knew was that Foley was suspected of being gay, and had sent an "overly friendly" email to a former page. And on that basis, the democrats are saying the republicans should have launched an investigation into Foley's behavior. All I am asking is why? Unless the Republicans were supposed to equate homosexuality and pedophilia, why were they supposed to do anything more than ask Foley to stop emailing former pages just as they would have done for anyone else? Otherwise, on what basis would any investigation have been warrented?
Thank God for disproportional force.
Stan Shannon wrote:
The only thing the republicans knew was that Foley was suspected of being gay, and had sent an "overly friendly" email to a former page.
The fact that he is gay is not relavent. Only Republicans seem to think that is an issue which shows how out of touch they are. The issue is that he was making moves on underaged boys. That should have prompted them to do something. If you said you are investigating Foley for sending explicit e-mails to underage boys nobody would accuse you of gay bashing because most people know that there is a difference. The issue is one of age, not gender. If he had sent explicit e-mails to underage girls would you have not investigated for fear of being labeled a "hetero-basher"? Newt's argument that an investigation would have been seen as gay bashing is nonsense. There was no investigation because they want to hold on to power at all costs.
-
Wjousts wrote:
equating all homosexual men with middle aged creeps
I believe they are. I also believe homosexuality is a mental illness or condition.
=====Brain melting code=====
static int Sqrt(int x){ if (x<0) throw new ArgumentOutOfRangeException(); int temp, y=0, b=0x8000, bshft=15, v=x; do { if (v>=(temp=(y<<1)+b<>=1)>0); return y; :omg:====TSI TLFL EEOOLHTG===== ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Decode that and you will win.;P ============Hint=========== cout << "33 20 57 4F 52 44 53 62 63 6B 77 6F 72 64 73"; -
Henize wrote:
I believe they are. I also believe homosexuality is a mental illness or condition.
The grown ups are talking here.
Wjousts wrote:
The grown ups are talking here.
Is that all you have to say? Why don't you try to convence me that homosexuality is not a mental illness.
=====Brain melting code=====
static int Sqrt(int x){ if (x<0) throw new ArgumentOutOfRangeException(); int temp, y=0, b=0x8000, bshft=15, v=x; do { if (v>=(temp=(y<<1)+b<>=1)>0); return y; :omg:====TSI TLFL EEOOLHTG===== ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Decode that and you will win.;P ============Hint=========== cout << "33 20 57 4F 52 44 53 62 63 6B 77 6F 72 64 73"; -
Stan Shannon wrote:
It is certainly the dems who provided the information to ABC news timed precisely to maximize the political impact.
Did you expect anything less? No! Would the Republicans have done any different if the roles were reversed? Hell no! The whole mess is going down EXACTLY as anyone with half a brain could have predicted and EXACTLY the same if the party affiliations were reversed. Stan, you're too intelligent to not fully understand that the Republicans are just as slimey as the Democrats and it's disingenuous to act otherwise. X|
"Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind." - Dr. Seuss
Mike Mullikin wrote:
Stan, you're too intelligent to not fully understand that the Republicans are just as slimey as the Democrats and it's disingenuous to act otherwise.
Stan is in a lather and deliberately choosing to ignore that Fox News, Miami Herald, and other republick-leaning media were given the same information last year. They chose not to act on it. If they had, the whole thing would have blown over long ago and Foley would just be a footnote in history.
-
Wjousts wrote:
The grown ups are talking here.
Is that all you have to say? Why don't you try to convence me that homosexuality is not a mental illness.
=====Brain melting code=====
static int Sqrt(int x){ if (x<0) throw new ArgumentOutOfRangeException(); int temp, y=0, b=0x8000, bshft=15, v=x; do { if (v>=(temp=(y<<1)+b<>=1)>0); return y; :omg:====TSI TLFL EEOOLHTG===== ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Decode that and you will win.;P ============Hint=========== cout << "33 20 57 4F 52 44 53 62 63 6B 77 6F 72 64 73";Henize wrote:
Why don't you try to convence me that homosexuality is not a mental illness.
Mental illness is defined, in part, by society as it's basically a deviation of what is considered to be "normal" brain function. As recently as 27 years ago, homosexuality was indeed considered by the psychiatric community as a dysfunction. A propaganda campaign was initiated by the left, so it is no longer considered a dysfunction. This campaign has heightened dramatically over the past decade to the point that considering it a dysfunction is viewed as...dysfunctional. Strange world we live in, isn't it?
"You act like jew." -Score: 1.0 (3 votes).
-
Mike Mullikin wrote:
Stan, you're too intelligent to not fully understand that the Republicans are just as slimey as the Democrats and it's disingenuous to act otherwise.
Stan is in a lather and deliberately choosing to ignore that Fox News, Miami Herald, and other republick-leaning media were given the same information last year. They chose not to act on it. If they had, the whole thing would have blown over long ago and Foley would just be a footnote in history.
Ed Gadziemski wrote:
were given the same information last year.
What information were they given last year? Please be specific.
Thank God for disproportional force.
-
Dan Crane and Robert Bauman. Two Republican pedophiles, defended by Republicans. They did it then, now they did it again. Oh, the hypocrisy.
No eternal reward will forgive us now for wasting the dawn. - Jim Morrison
dennisd45 wrote:
Two Republican pedophiles, defended by Republicans
Hi, dennisd45. Have you noticed the way righties are using the ungrammatical "Democrat Party" recently in an effort to demean Democrats? I've decided to start using the terms "Republick Party" and "Republicks" (the k is important, because they lick big time) as an appropriately ungrammatical response.
-
Henize wrote:
Why don't you try to convence me that homosexuality is not a mental illness.
Mental illness is defined, in part, by society as it's basically a deviation of what is considered to be "normal" brain function. As recently as 27 years ago, homosexuality was indeed considered by the psychiatric community as a dysfunction. A propaganda campaign was initiated by the left, so it is no longer considered a dysfunction. This campaign has heightened dramatically over the past decade to the point that considering it a dysfunction is viewed as...dysfunctional. Strange world we live in, isn't it?
"You act like jew." -Score: 1.0 (3 votes).
What you said makes perfect sence and I agree with it %100. People's views on homosexuality have become very laxed do to what is on TV, what is tought in schools, ect... I don't believe homos are really bad people who diserve to be punished. Homosexuality is just a really awfull mental condition.
=====Brain melting code=====
static int Sqrt(int x){ if (x<0) throw new ArgumentOutOfRangeException(); int temp, y=0, b=0x8000, bshft=15, v=x; do { if (v>=(temp=(y<<1)+b<>=1)>0); return y; :omg:====TSI TLFL EEOOLHTG===== ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Decode that and you will win.;P ============Hint=========== cout << "33 20 57 4F 52 44 53 62 63 6B 77 6F 72 64 73"; -
Stan Shannon wrote:
The only thing the republicans knew was that Foley was suspected of being gay, and had sent an "overly friendly" email to a former page.
The fact that he is gay is not relavent. Only Republicans seem to think that is an issue which shows how out of touch they are. The issue is that he was making moves on underaged boys. That should have prompted them to do something. If you said you are investigating Foley for sending explicit e-mails to underage boys nobody would accuse you of gay bashing because most people know that there is a difference. The issue is one of age, not gender. If he had sent explicit e-mails to underage girls would you have not investigated for fear of being labeled a "hetero-basher"? Newt's argument that an investigation would have been seen as gay bashing is nonsense. There was no investigation because they want to hold on to power at all costs.
Wjousts wrote:
The fact that he is gay is not relavent.
Than what is? It is you and the dems doing the gay bashing here, not the republicans. Here [^] is the complete content of the emails in question. You are telling me that on this basis, they were supposed to launch an investigation of a congressman and/or ask him to resign? For asking a former page for a picture, and becuase the pages thought he was 'sick' - meaning gay? So I ask agian, are the republicans supposed to investigate every congressman who has ever sent a friendly email to a former page and who has 'questionable' sexual preferences based upon rumors among pages (who themselvers referred to Foley as a 'fag'). Should the republican leadership monitor every communication of all congressman? Should they allow juvenile rumors to be the basis for repremanding congressman? And why the fuck don't you hold your own party to task for openly supporting the sexual abuse of pages by democratic congressman? -- modified at 14:08 Wednesday 4th October, 2006
Thank God for disproportional force.
-
What you said makes perfect sence and I agree with it %100. People's views on homosexuality have become very laxed do to what is on TV, what is tought in schools, ect... I don't believe homos are really bad people who diserve to be punished. Homosexuality is just a really awfull mental condition.
=====Brain melting code=====
static int Sqrt(int x){ if (x<0) throw new ArgumentOutOfRangeException(); int temp, y=0, b=0x8000, bshft=15, v=x; do { if (v>=(temp=(y<<1)+b<>=1)>0); return y; :omg:====TSI TLFL EEOOLHTG===== ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Decode that and you will win.;P ============Hint=========== cout << "33 20 57 4F 52 44 53 62 63 6B 77 6F 72 64 73";Henize wrote:
Homosexuality is just a really awfull mental condition.
Perhaps, but as long as it is between consenting adults who cares? Is it really more perverse for a man to give another man a blow job than it is for a women to do the same thing? In a world were there are real pedophiles harming real children it is silly to worry about what consenting adults are doing to one another
Thank God for disproportional force.
-
dennisd45 wrote:
Two Republican pedophiles, defended by Republicans
Hi, dennisd45. Have you noticed the way righties are using the ungrammatical "Democrat Party" recently in an effort to demean Democrats? I've decided to start using the terms "Republick Party" and "Republicks" (the k is important, because they lick big time) as an appropriately ungrammatical response.
Ed Gadziemski wrote:
Have you noticed the way righties are using the ungrammatical "Democrat Party"
As dumb as dennis is, even he probably isn't bothered by such trivialities.
Thank God for disproportional force.
-
Henize wrote:
Homosexuality is just a really awfull mental condition.
Perhaps, but as long as it is between consenting adults who cares? Is it really more perverse for a man to give another man a blow job than it is for a women to do the same thing? In a world were there are real pedophiles harming real children it is silly to worry about what consenting adults are doing to one another
Thank God for disproportional force.
Stan Shannon wrote:
Perhaps, but as long as it is between consenting adults who cares? Is it really more perverse for a man to give another man a blow job than it is for a women to do the same thing?
If they are messed up in the head sexually I think it is important to suspect that it is possible for them to do other dysfunctional sexual behaviors. What if the guy starts to get a crush on you or something like that. I would be extrememly unconfterable and I would feel threatend by it becuase I have always seen men as compitition and a homosexual move on me would be like an attack. Also I do not like all the homosexual crap on TV these days. Its almost hard to avoid. Although girl sex is very interesting;P, I still think it is grose after I think about it. Thats why I like good old Star Trek and some of the other older shows.
=====Brain melting code=====
static int Sqrt(int x){ if (x<0) throw new ArgumentOutOfRangeException(); int temp, y=0, b=0x8000, bshft=15, v=x; do { if (v>=(temp=(y<<1)+b<>=1)>0); return y; :omg:====TSI TLFL EEOOLHTG===== ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Decode that and you will win.;P ============Hint=========== cout << "33 20 57 4F 52 44 53 62 63 6B 77 6F 72 64 73"; -
Stan Shannon wrote:
Perhaps, but as long as it is between consenting adults who cares? Is it really more perverse for a man to give another man a blow job than it is for a women to do the same thing?
If they are messed up in the head sexually I think it is important to suspect that it is possible for them to do other dysfunctional sexual behaviors. What if the guy starts to get a crush on you or something like that. I would be extrememly unconfterable and I would feel threatend by it becuase I have always seen men as compitition and a homosexual move on me would be like an attack. Also I do not like all the homosexual crap on TV these days. Its almost hard to avoid. Although girl sex is very interesting;P, I still think it is grose after I think about it. Thats why I like good old Star Trek and some of the other older shows.
=====Brain melting code=====
static int Sqrt(int x){ if (x<0) throw new ArgumentOutOfRangeException(); int temp, y=0, b=0x8000, bshft=15, v=x; do { if (v>=(temp=(y<<1)+b<>=1)>0); return y; :omg:====TSI TLFL EEOOLHTG===== ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Decode that and you will win.;P ============Hint=========== cout << "33 20 57 4F 52 44 53 62 63 6B 77 6F 72 64 73";Henize wrote:
Also I do not like all the homosexual crap on TV these days. Its almost hard to avoid. Although girl sex is very interesting, I still think it is grose after I think about it. Thats why I like good old Star Trek and some of the other older shows.
I agree on that. Homosexuality, just as abortion, is fundamentally important to the left precisely because it is an issue that directly challanges traditional moral values in our society, and undermining the strengh of American culture is the goal, not the homosexuality itself. Therefor, it is something they work to promote as a perfectly 'normal' element of our culture.
Thank God for disproportional force.
-
Henize wrote:
Also I do not like all the homosexual crap on TV these days. Its almost hard to avoid. Although girl sex is very interesting, I still think it is grose after I think about it. Thats why I like good old Star Trek and some of the other older shows.
I agree on that. Homosexuality, just as abortion, is fundamentally important to the left precisely because it is an issue that directly challanges traditional moral values in our society, and undermining the strengh of American culture is the goal, not the homosexuality itself. Therefor, it is something they work to promote as a perfectly 'normal' element of our culture.
Thank God for disproportional force.
Stan Shannon wrote:
I agree on that. Homosexuality, just as abortion, is fundamentally important to the left precisely because it is an issue that directly challanges traditional moral values in our society, and undermining the strengh of American culture is the goal, not the homosexuality itself. Therefor, it is something they work to promote as a perfectly 'normal' element of our culture.
YEAH! Finnally somone agrees with me! I was starting to think everyone was crazy or evil or something:laugh:
=====Brain melting code=====
static int Sqrt(int x){ if (x<0) throw new ArgumentOutOfRangeException(); int temp, y=0, b=0x8000, bshft=15, v=x; do { if (v>=(temp=(y<<1)+b<>=1)>0); return y; :omg:====TSI TLFL EEOOLHTG===== ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Decode that and you will win.;P ============Hint=========== cout << "33 20 57 4F 52 44 53 62 63 6B 77 6F 72 64 73"; -
Wjousts wrote:
The fact that he is gay is not relavent.
Than what is? It is you and the dems doing the gay bashing here, not the republicans. Here [^] is the complete content of the emails in question. You are telling me that on this basis, they were supposed to launch an investigation of a congressman and/or ask him to resign? For asking a former page for a picture, and becuase the pages thought he was 'sick' - meaning gay? So I ask agian, are the republicans supposed to investigate every congressman who has ever sent a friendly email to a former page and who has 'questionable' sexual preferences based upon rumors among pages (who themselvers referred to Foley as a 'fag'). Should the republican leadership monitor every communication of all congressman? Should they allow juvenile rumors to be the basis for repremanding congressman? And why the fuck don't you hold your own party to task for openly supporting the sexual abuse of pages by democratic congressman? -- modified at 14:08 Wednesday 4th October, 2006
Thank God for disproportional force.
-
Ed Gadziemski wrote:
Have you noticed the way righties are using the ungrammatical "Democrat Party"
As dumb as dennis is, even he probably isn't bothered by such trivialities.
Thank God for disproportional force.
Stan Shannon wrote:
As dumb as dennis is, even he probably isn't bothered by such trivialities.
Thank God for disproportional force.
-
Jesse Evans wrote:
It's not just the emails, it's the IMs[^] (Before you click on that, be aware it's not worksafe!)
No, it is just the emails. The emails were the only information the republicans had available to act on. The IMs were not made available to the republicans until last week. The question is, who had them, and why were they not released until so close to the election?
Thank God for disproportional force.