I feel rather strongly about this
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The worst part is that it feels like it's my fault. I knew he was borderline before I started the last exchange of message to him just prior to his total mental breakdown. I just couldn't help myself. :sigh:
-- Torn from tomorrow's headlines
Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote:
The worst part is that it feels like it's my fault.
I don't think you can take credit the blame for his plummet. He'd been running towards that cliff for days. :rolleyes:
"Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind." - Dr. Seuss
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code-frog wrote:
The most powerful hackers in the world and the very best of those who catch them are masters at "Social Engineering". I'll leave it at that.
Yeah, Mitnick used that to particularly good effect back during his hacking days :-)
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Currently working on C++/CLI in Action for Manning Publications. Also visit the Ultimate Toolbox blogHe was so good at it I bet he still does it on a daily basis with normal things and doesn't even realize it. That guy perfected it.
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The worst part is that it feels like it's my fault. I knew he was borderline before I started the last exchange of message to him just prior to his total mental breakdown. I just couldn't help myself. :sigh:
-- Torn from tomorrow's headlines
How can it be your fault though? I mean I know what you are saying. But it really isn't. The guy does seem obsessed with swearing though.
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The worst part is that it feels like it's my fault. I knew he was borderline before I started the last exchange of message to him just prior to his total mental breakdown. I just couldn't help myself. :sigh:
-- Torn from tomorrow's headlines
Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote:
The worst part is that it feels like it's my fault. I knew he was borderline before I started the last exchange of message to him just prior to his total mental breakdown. I just couldn't help myself.
It's all your fault Jörgen ;P
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Alvaro Mendez wrote:
Yes it is. It's not my house, it's not my car, it's not my clothes. It's a web forum called "the soapbox".
Which is part of the entire site. You don't feel that there is a sense of community here? Some of us do.
Alvaro Mendez wrote:
However, the first offense deserves just a banning of the account, just so we can see what happened.
Given his track record, you feel he deserves a second chance?
Alvaro Mendez wrote:
This is a website, with different sections. Like a house, if you can't stand the heat, stay out of the kitchen.
The Soapbox is part of CP. What goes on there is part of CP. Stuff like that reflects badly on the entire site. One room in your house is smeared with shit and full of trash but that's OK because it's the smeared-with-shit-and-full-of-trash room?
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Taka Muraoka wrote:
Which is part of the entire site. You don't feel that there is a sense of community here? Some of us do.
Not in the soapbox. It feels more like a war room at times. The Lounge is where people come to make nice.
Taka Muraoka wrote:
Given his track record, you feel he deserves a second chance?
No. He should be permanently banned. But the post (and its replies) should remain there, as part of history. Removing it (from a forum like the soapbox) is more akin to censorship. Like I said, if the guy had then gone on a rampage posting crap under different accounts, that would have been different and those posts I would have supported removing swiftly.
Taka Muraoka wrote:
The Soapbox is part of CP. What goes on there is part of CP. Stuff like that reflects badly on the entire site. One room in your house is smeared with sh*t and full of trash but that's OK because it's the smeared-with-sh*t-and-full-of-trash room?
I disagree. Stuff like that does not reflect badly on the site. It reflects badly on the person who posted it. Since we all complained, he was put out of commission. His post should remain there as an example to others.
If [God] knows what we are going to do then we have no free will and are just characters in a play written by him. Without free will, morality for humans makes no sense. Without free will and morality, any sort of punishment or reward system loses any justification. Heaven and hell would be places where [God] could watch the souls he created, predestined just for eternal happiness or agony. - Mark Thomas
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code-frog wrote:
The most powerful hackers in the world and the very best of those who catch them are masters at "Social Engineering". I'll leave it at that.
Yeah, Mitnick used that to particularly good effect back during his hacking days :-)
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Currently working on C++/CLI in Action for Manning Publications. Also visit the Ultimate Toolbox blogNishant Sivakumar wrote:
Mitnick
Have you seen the movie based on his story? I recommend it.
"For fifty bucks I'd put my face in their soup and blow." - George Costanza
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Taka Muraoka wrote:
Which is part of the entire site. You don't feel that there is a sense of community here? Some of us do.
Not in the soapbox. It feels more like a war room at times. The Lounge is where people come to make nice.
Taka Muraoka wrote:
Given his track record, you feel he deserves a second chance?
No. He should be permanently banned. But the post (and its replies) should remain there, as part of history. Removing it (from a forum like the soapbox) is more akin to censorship. Like I said, if the guy had then gone on a rampage posting crap under different accounts, that would have been different and those posts I would have supported removing swiftly.
Taka Muraoka wrote:
The Soapbox is part of CP. What goes on there is part of CP. Stuff like that reflects badly on the entire site. One room in your house is smeared with sh*t and full of trash but that's OK because it's the smeared-with-sh*t-and-full-of-trash room?
I disagree. Stuff like that does not reflect badly on the site. It reflects badly on the person who posted it. Since we all complained, he was put out of commission. His post should remain there as an example to others.
If [God] knows what we are going to do then we have no free will and are just characters in a play written by him. Without free will, morality for humans makes no sense. Without free will and morality, any sort of punishment or reward system loses any justification. Heaven and hell would be places where [God] could watch the souls he created, predestined just for eternal happiness or agony. - Mark Thomas
Alvaro Mendez wrote:
Removing it (from a forum like the soapbox) is more akin to censorship.
Censorship is about blocking information you don't want people to hear. I'm talking about maintaining standards.
Alvaro Mendez wrote:
if the guy had then gone on a rampage posting crap under different accounts, that would have been different and those posts I would have supported removing swiftly.
What's the difference? He goes on a rampage posting crap from different accounts, the posts should be deleted but if he goes on a rampage posting crap from a single account, they should stay?!
Alvaro Mendez wrote:
It reflects badly on the person who posted it.
Yes it does, but it's also a reflection on the site that it deems it acceptable to leave stuff like that on view.
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The worst part is that it feels like it's my fault. I knew he was borderline before I started the last exchange of message to him just prior to his total mental breakdown. I just couldn't help myself. :sigh:
-- Torn from tomorrow's headlines
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Spam posts can be and are deleted fairly quickly so the facility is definitely there. I was just wondering they are treated like that but this post was left in place. I think that while the Soapbox was intended to be a place where anything goes, until recently people have not really abused it. But there's a feeling that whatever goes on in there doesn't need to be moderated which I disagree with.
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Well I might have missed the removal but there is still plenty enough of the rubbish posts lingering around here. Most not near as angry and suspect as the message of this topic that one really needs to go. This fellow has replied to me once and it was fairly off topic/unrelated to the subject of my post. I just ignored it why should I give any attention to someone who didn't read or didn't understand what I said. Either way the reply to me was not anywhere near nasty or rude as the particular posting referenced here
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The worst part is that it feels like it's my fault. I knew he was borderline before I started the last exchange of message to him just prior to his total mental breakdown. I just couldn't help myself. :sigh:
-- Torn from tomorrow's headlines
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Nishant Sivakumar wrote:
Mitnick
Have you seen the movie based on his story? I recommend it.
"For fifty bucks I'd put my face in their soup and blow." - George Costanza
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Ashley van Gerven wrote:
Have you seen the movie based on his story? I recommend it.
Nope, I haven't. I'll check it out if I get the chance. Thanks.
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Ashley van Gerven wrote:
Have you seen the movie based on his story? I recommend it.
Nope, I haven't. I'll check it out if I get the chance. Thanks.
Regards, Nish
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Currently working on C++/CLI in Action for Manning Publications. Also visit the Ultimate Toolbox blogShould have given you the title DOH! :doh:: Takedown[^]
"For fifty bucks I'd put my face in their soup and blow." - George Costanza
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Should have given you the title DOH! :doh:: Takedown[^]
"For fifty bucks I'd put my face in their soup and blow." - George Costanza
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Ashley van Gerven wrote:
Should have given you the title DOH! : Takedown[^]
I had googled out the name (after I replied to your post). But thanks again :-)
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The worst part is that it feels like it's my fault. I knew he was borderline before I started the last exchange of message to him just prior to his total mental breakdown. I just couldn't help myself. :sigh:
-- Torn from tomorrow's headlines
Uuhhh, was you *threatening* to put on a skirt and make-up enough to push him over the edge? Or did you actually do it? ;P But anyway since it's your fault, I hope you've taken it upon yourself to send a warning memo to all schools within a 100 mile radius of him. :~
"For fifty bucks I'd put my face in their soup and blow." - George Costanza
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Varindir Rajesh Mahdihar wrote:
but in America
Well, good thing the servers are hosted in Canada, then. We don't have to worry about that crap. :rolleyes:
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I've reported your post for amuse. :laugh:
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