WW2 and Japanese
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Christian Graus wrote:
I know exactly what you mean. So, I ask again, do you think the history taught where you live is without bias ?
The history books in the schools are designed to make white children feel ashamed and guilty over slavery and the "Civil rights movement".
We must have read different history books. That, or you or someone in your family has an agenda.
A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects. - -Lazarus Long, Time Enough For Love
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I read news that many new generation Japanese do not have a clue on how and what the Japanese had done to hurt people around the world during WW2. Is this how the majority think in Japan? I got a job offer from japan but is worrying about this. I really don't want my child to grow under such an environment.
They are only changing the more stronger word to something softer such as "invated" to "passing by". Though it pissed off a lot of people from the "passed-by" countries. Or still honoring the people who responsibled of the "passing by" as heroes. http://english.peopledaily.com.cn/200405/13/eng20040513\_143145.html
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DaTxomin wrote:
The nonsense being your moral superiority together with your particular vendetta against japanese?
Nonsense, I live and work here in Japan and I have nothing against the Japanese, and I do not know the number of times you have visited here to claim to know more about Japan. At least I listen to news everyday and in Japanese.
DaTxomin wrote:
Curious twist to avoid the heart of the issue.
...and what is the heart of the issue here?
DaTxomin wrote:
Are you saying that those that you mention are also in your list of evil nations that glorify crimes against humanity (in contrast with your peace loving country, of course)?
They seems to follow the pattern you seems to be dragging this topic into, and that no one is qualify to talk about it. You asked (as to whether it is related to the topic - only you can tell)...
It would be nice to hear you are coherent or, at least, that such a magnificent nation of yours actually exists.
...and I provided you one.
DaTxomin wrote:
So, the bottom line is, why do YOU make exception on the japanese? There lies the/your nonsense.
Do I have to remind you of the topic? Best regards, Paul.
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Paul Selormey wrote:
Nonsense, I live and work here in Japan and I have nothing against the Japanese, and I do not know the number of times you have visited here to claim to know more about Japan. At least I listen to news everyday and in Japanese.
Well, from the get-go your attitude has remained me of those (many) ill-adjusted gaijin that are fed cultural superiority directly from the pages of the Japan Times... in plain English.
Paul Selormey wrote:
...and what is the heart of the issue here?
The criminalization of japanese is hollow unless one is coherent about it and includes it all in the context of it all. You are not being coherent and claim, as sole argument, your moral superiority.
Paul Selormey wrote:
They seems to follow the pattern you seems to be dragging this topic into, and that no one is qualify to talk about it. You asked (as to whether it is related to the topic - only you can tell)...
Same answer as before. If the japanese are an exception, justify it.
Paul Selormey wrote:
...and I provided you one.
There is no irony WHATSOEVER in your glorification and idealization of the history of the country you claim to be yours.
Paul Selormey wrote:
Do I have to remind you of the topic?
You constantly exemplify the topic: The prejudice of one (first poster) backed by the prejudice of another (your own).
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Tim Craig wrote:
Wasn't Ghana a lynch pin in the slave trade?
What do you mean by "lynch pin"? Best regards, Paul.
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Paul Selormey wrote:
What do you mean by "lynch pin"?
A vital link in the chain. It was a place where the black slavers took their captured slaves to be sold and exported out of Africa.
The evolution of the human genome is too important to be left to chance.
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.jpg wrote:
child to grow under such an environment.
What enviorment are you talking about? Have you ever been to Japan? Japan is one of the coolest places in the world. The Japanese people are some of the kidest people I've had the pleasure of working with and living with.
A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects. - -Lazarus Long, Time Enough For Love
Chris Austin wrote:
The Japanese people are some of the kidest people I've had the pleasure of working with and living with.
As someone who was denied a PhD here in Japan, just because a Prof. decided not to release the result of my last publication and the school authorities looked on... Have worked in a company for 4 years, designing and creating products, and getting to the end of one main GIS product that I invested all my time and energy in, the conditions became too difficult I had to leave, and never had the chance to enjoy the fruit of my labor... (I will reserve the details for myself). I will say the experience vary and the honeymoon is 0~1 yr. As a Christian, I have no choice but to forgive and forget but not all will (infact, I have called my former Prof and told him I have forgiven him). I do not say this to discourage anyone, and infact I am happy with my current company but please get ready for the worse, for it is not all cool in Japan. In his case, Hong Kong is not far from Japan so I will wish he keeps his family home for the first 2 years until he is satisfied with his environment. Best regards, Paul.
Jesus Christ is LOVE! Please tell somebody.
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Paul Selormey wrote:
What do you mean by "lynch pin"?
A vital link in the chain. It was a place where the black slavers took their captured slaves to be sold and exported out of Africa.
The evolution of the human genome is too important to be left to chance.
Interestingly, when you mention slavery there was no Ghana. There was a "Gold Coast" because it was a place to steal gold to beautify the European queens and kings. I never heard about any leader then, there were/are chiefs and none is reported as assisted the slave trade in the Gold Coast. Do you know the name of any so-called black slaver? The then Gold Coast (and now Ghana) is bounded by sea with harbors/castles/forts built by the Europeans. The then Gold Coast is a victim to the slavery, if your history books at least cared to talk about it. It might be a vital link to the Europeans, but was not created by Ghanaians. Best regards, Paul.
Jesus Christ is LOVE! Please tell somebody.
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Paul Selormey wrote:
Nonsense, I live and work here in Japan and I have nothing against the Japanese, and I do not know the number of times you have visited here to claim to know more about Japan. At least I listen to news everyday and in Japanese.
Well, from the get-go your attitude has remained me of those (many) ill-adjusted gaijin that are fed cultural superiority directly from the pages of the Japan Times... in plain English.
Paul Selormey wrote:
...and what is the heart of the issue here?
The criminalization of japanese is hollow unless one is coherent about it and includes it all in the context of it all. You are not being coherent and claim, as sole argument, your moral superiority.
Paul Selormey wrote:
They seems to follow the pattern you seems to be dragging this topic into, and that no one is qualify to talk about it. You asked (as to whether it is related to the topic - only you can tell)...
Same answer as before. If the japanese are an exception, justify it.
Paul Selormey wrote:
...and I provided you one.
There is no irony WHATSOEVER in your glorification and idealization of the history of the country you claim to be yours.
Paul Selormey wrote:
Do I have to remind you of the topic?
You constantly exemplify the topic: The prejudice of one (first poster) backed by the prejudice of another (your own).
A waste... Best regards, Paul.
Jesus Christ is LOVE! Please tell somebody.
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Paul Selormey wrote:
What do you mean by "lynch pin"?
A vital link in the chain. It was a place where the black slavers took their captured slaves to be sold and exported out of Africa.
The evolution of the human genome is too important to be left to chance.
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A waste... Best regards, Paul.
Jesus Christ is LOVE! Please tell somebody.
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The history of Ghana is irrelevant, you must have noticed. It is only the history of others that matters.
Please learn a bit, stop being childish. Ghana never had a leader until 1957. Grow up! take the challenge mention the name of one leader you know (not to even mention the criminal history). Best regards, Paul.
Jesus Christ is LOVE! Please tell somebody.
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Sure, sure, unable to justify your position and faced with your incongruity, let's move on.
...sorry it was do not argue with the fool... Best regards, Paul.
Jesus Christ is LOVE! Please tell somebody.
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Please learn a bit, stop being childish. Ghana never had a leader until 1957. Grow up! take the challenge mention the name of one leader you know (not to even mention the criminal history). Best regards, Paul.
Jesus Christ is LOVE! Please tell somebody.
I see. Your claim is that since there was no "leader" there were no ghanaian people and therefore no ghanaian history. Whatever happened before 1957 is someonelse's problem. For example, the doings of the Empire of Ghana matter not at all. BTW, a friend told me once that "ghana" means "warrior" or "warrior prince" (i don't remember which) but it must surely be a lie... Next you will tell me that because you put your hand on your face, you have become invisible.
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...sorry it was do not argue with the fool... Best regards, Paul.
Jesus Christ is LOVE! Please tell somebody.
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Chris Austin wrote:
The Japanese people are some of the kidest people I've had the pleasure of working with and living with.
As someone who was denied a PhD here in Japan, just because a Prof. decided not to release the result of my last publication and the school authorities looked on... Have worked in a company for 4 years, designing and creating products, and getting to the end of one main GIS product that I invested all my time and energy in, the conditions became too difficult I had to leave, and never had the chance to enjoy the fruit of my labor... (I will reserve the details for myself). I will say the experience vary and the honeymoon is 0~1 yr. As a Christian, I have no choice but to forgive and forget but not all will (infact, I have called my former Prof and told him I have forgiven him). I do not say this to discourage anyone, and infact I am happy with my current company but please get ready for the worse, for it is not all cool in Japan. In his case, Hong Kong is not far from Japan so I will wish he keeps his family home for the first 2 years until he is satisfied with his environment. Best regards, Paul.
Jesus Christ is LOVE! Please tell somebody.
And finally the truth comes through. Yes, the life of the foreigner is hard, far harder than most think. I speak with knowledge and experiences that include life threatening situations because of xenophobia/racism/bigroty. It is not difficult at all for me to empathise with your situation. However, if you let your feelings cloud your judgement, these ugly feelings will forever be in your heart. Free yourself.
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I see. Your claim is that since there was no "leader" there were no ghanaian people and therefore no ghanaian history. Whatever happened before 1957 is someonelse's problem. For example, the doings of the Empire of Ghana matter not at all. BTW, a friend told me once that "ghana" means "warrior" or "warrior prince" (i don't remember which) but it must surely be a lie... Next you will tell me that because you put your hand on your face, you have become invisible.
DaTxomin wrote:
Empire of Ghana
Wow...please learn and stop wasting my time. Empire of Ghana/Mali etc never had no relation to the current country Ghana, which was formerly Gold Coast. Read about the era of Empire of Ghana and see if it has a relation with slavery. Take a look...[^] Sorry, I have work to do...and it is Friday. Best regards, Paul.
Jesus Christ is LOVE! Please tell somebody.
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And finally the truth comes through. Yes, the life of the foreigner is hard, far harder than most think. I speak with knowledge and experiences that include life threatening situations because of xenophobia/racism/bigroty. It is not difficult at all for me to empathise with your situation. However, if you let your feelings cloud your judgement, these ugly feelings will forever be in your heart. Free yourself.
DaTxomin wrote:
However, if you let your feelings cloud your judgement, these ugly feelings will forever be in your heart. Free yourself.
If you read it well, I forgave and forgot...that says it all. Best regards, Paul.
Jesus Christ is LOVE! Please tell somebody.
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DaTxomin wrote:
Empire of Ghana
Wow...please learn and stop wasting my time. Empire of Ghana/Mali etc never had no relation to the current country Ghana, which was formerly Gold Coast. Read about the era of Empire of Ghana and see if it has a relation with slavery. Take a look...[^] Sorry, I have work to do...and it is Friday. Best regards, Paul.
Jesus Christ is LOVE! Please tell somebody.
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DaTxomin wrote:
However, if you let your feelings cloud your judgement, these ugly feelings will forever be in your heart. Free yourself.
If you read it well, I forgave and forgot...that says it all. Best regards, Paul.
Jesus Christ is LOVE! Please tell somebody.
I did read it well, unfortunately for you, and it is clear that you haven't forgiven. Consider what you have ended up with:
Paul Selormey wrote:
...but please get ready for the worse, for it is not all cool in Japan.
Ready for the worst because it is not all cool? Now now. The original poster claimed delusion as proof which you happily endorsed and magnified without any other justification than a chip on your shoulder. Now you say that "it is not all cool". For goodness sake, WHERE on earth it is all cool? And when did he say SUCH a thing? The truth is that Japan is a good place to live compared to many others. Not perfect but nowhere is (except Ghana, grant you).
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Theo only thing i dont like about Japan is that they have banned firearms, but they probably dont need them because they probably have a less violent society than America.
I doubt the US needs them either.
regards, Paul Watson Ireland FeedHenry needs you
eh, stop bugging me about it, give it a couple of days, see what happens.
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Nice, this is what I knew you are talking about...lead me on... Now, tell me where these were tried, found guilty and sentense to death but are now being honored as heros. As a reminder, where you missed the point is the issue has nothing to do with ordinary Japanese (civilian or army), it is about the leaders of those times. Best regards, Paul.
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Why are you always find a way to escape? It's like you try to argue but when you have someone in front of you that obviously has more world culture than you, you just say that it's not the point... I don't even want to enter this discussion, but I'm reading and I find interesting that you always try to escape. You ask names, they give you names and then ou just find an excuse to escape one more time...