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  • P peterchen

    What source control would you recommend for personal use? VS2005 integration is a must, because I'm a spoiled child. Free is preferred, as this is currently only for my rare dabblings in articleable code. (moved from.. errr.. wrong forum)


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    Well, i'm becoming rather fond of Subversion, but i must admit i haven't used VS-integrated source control in several years now and rather like it that way. I'm always careful, when installing source control providers that offer it, to opt out of installing the plugins, just so i don't have to worry about it accidentally kicking in at a bad time. However, i know that there is a VS2005 Subversion client - i just can't speak to its quality.

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    • P peterchen

      What source control would you recommend for personal use? VS2005 integration is a must, because I'm a spoiled child. Free is preferred, as this is currently only for my rare dabblings in articleable code. (moved from.. errr.. wrong forum)


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      Kent Sharkey
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      Either Subversion (AnkhSVN[^] adds support for VS, I think, but I'm pretty happy with Tortoise) or SourceGear Vault. The latter is not open source, but it's free for a single developer, and works quite well integrated with VS.

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        Either Subversion (AnkhSVN[^] adds support for VS, I think, but I'm pretty happy with Tortoise) or SourceGear Vault. The latter is not open source, but it's free for a single developer, and works quite well integrated with VS.

        -------------- TTFN - Kent

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        peterchen
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        Does SVN run with SQL express? (if yes, it's my fault of not getting it installed...)


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          Does SVN run with SQL express? (if yes, it's my fault of not getting it installed...)


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          peterchen wrote:

          Does SVN run with SQL express?

          It doesn't use SQL Server (Express or otherwise) as a back-end, if that's what you're asking. I suppose you could potentially add SQL Express databases to source control (SVN works reasonably well on binary files), but i've never tried this.

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          • P peterchen

            What source control would you recommend for personal use? VS2005 integration is a must, because I'm a spoiled child. Free is preferred, as this is currently only for my rare dabblings in articleable code. (moved from.. errr.. wrong forum)


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            Member 96
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            I use a system of 20 rotating zip files made from a batch file that I can click on any time I feel like I've done something significant.

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            • P peterchen

              What source control would you recommend for personal use? VS2005 integration is a must, because I'm a spoiled child. Free is preferred, as this is currently only for my rare dabblings in articleable code. (moved from.. errr.. wrong forum)


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              Jon Sagara
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              I 2nd the Vault suggestion. Works great.

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                peterchen wrote:

                Does SVN run with SQL express?

                It doesn't use SQL Server (Express or otherwise) as a back-end, if that's what you're asking. I suppose you could potentially add SQL Express databases to source control (SVN works reasonably well on binary files), but i've never tried this.

                every night, i kneel at the foot of my bed and thank the Great Overseeing Politicians for protecting my freedoms by reducing their number, as if they were deer in a state park. -- Chris Losinger, Online Poker Players?

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                peterchen
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                OOps - I mixed that up with the SourceGear setup.. :-O


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                • P peterchen

                  What source control would you recommend for personal use? VS2005 integration is a must, because I'm a spoiled child. Free is preferred, as this is currently only for my rare dabblings in articleable code. (moved from.. errr.. wrong forum)


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                  Paul Watson
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                  Subversion is good. On Windows I used TortoiseSVN which is integrated into Windows Explorer and works well. On Mac I use the command line, works even better. I don't think SCM IDE integration is all that useful. It is nice but I'd rather choose a good SCM and then whatever tools work for it rather than choose an SCM based on its IDE prowess. The IDE integration apps I used with Subversion were not very good.

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                  eh, stop bugging me about it, give it a couple of days, see what happens.

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                    Subversion is good. On Windows I used TortoiseSVN which is integrated into Windows Explorer and works well. On Mac I use the command line, works even better. I don't think SCM IDE integration is all that useful. It is nice but I'd rather choose a good SCM and then whatever tools work for it rather than choose an SCM based on its IDE prowess. The IDE integration apps I used with Subversion were not very good.

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                    eh, stop bugging me about it, give it a couple of days, see what happens.

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                    Nemanja Trifunovic
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                    Paul Watson wrote:

                    I don't think SCM IDE integration is all that useful.

                    Agree. When I was using VSS, the first thing to do was to disable its integration with Visual Studio (not a trivial thing to do)


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                    • P peterchen

                      What source control would you recommend for personal use? VS2005 integration is a must, because I'm a spoiled child. Free is preferred, as this is currently only for my rare dabblings in articleable code. (moved from.. errr.. wrong forum)


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                      Diego Moita
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                      Perforce integrates very well with VS, has a very good UI and is free for one single developer. The only problem is that it might be too much for one single developer. It is very powerfull in things like branching and merging projects that are completely irrelevant to small projects.

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                        I use a system of 20 rotating zip files made from a batch file that I can click on any time I feel like I've done something significant.

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                        Rocky Moore
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                        Now that really sounds scary :)

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                          Now that really sounds scary :)

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                          Anton Afanasyev
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                          Hey now, I used that too at some point...of course, that was during like the first year of my programming experiences:laugh:


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                          • P peterchen

                            What source control would you recommend for personal use? VS2005 integration is a must, because I'm a spoiled child. Free is preferred, as this is currently only for my rare dabblings in articleable code. (moved from.. errr.. wrong forum)


                            We are a big screwed up dysfunctional psychotic happy family - some more screwed up, others more happy, but everybody's psychotic joint venture definition of CP
                            Linkify! || Fold With Us! || sighist

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                            Harrydath18
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                            I've had some very bad experiences with VSS integration and VS2003/2005 (it integrated so well, that detaching it from VSS desintegrated my projects several times; I needed detaching for automated builds), so from experience I wouldn't recommend it. Because my company uses VSS, I've managed to change the policy to use VSS as a stand-alone app, not integrated from VS2005 (and ever since things work rather well). Go for SubVersion. If you use Borland Developer Studio, you can use VSS from within BDS with VssConnexxion, that on the other hand works rather well and doesn't mess up your project. Microsoft should have a look at it and rework its integration with VSS. If you are using Delphi, you can also use VssConnexxion to integrate with VSS.

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                              peterchen wrote:

                              Does SVN run with SQL express?

                              It doesn't use SQL Server (Express or otherwise) as a back-end, if that's what you're asking. I suppose you could potentially add SQL Express databases to source control (SVN works reasonably well on binary files), but i've never tried this.

                              every night, i kneel at the foot of my bed and thank the Great Overseeing Politicians for protecting my freedoms by reducing their number, as if they were deer in a state park. -- Chris Losinger, Online Poker Players?

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                              Mohamed Meligy
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                              SVN itself has een way sooo great. Just stay away from any VS integrated client and you'll be totally fine! The windows explorer based client is pretty cool though. Mohamed Ahmed Meligy Application Developer Silver Key (www.SilverKey.US) - Egypt Branch http://geekswithblogs.net/mohamed/

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                              • P peterchen

                                What source control would you recommend for personal use? VS2005 integration is a must, because I'm a spoiled child. Free is preferred, as this is currently only for my rare dabblings in articleable code. (moved from.. errr.. wrong forum)


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                                Guy Harwood
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                                i 3rd the Sourcegear Vault suggestion. migration from vss and installation a breeze. happy customer :-D

                                ---Guy H (;-)---

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                                • P peterchen

                                  What source control would you recommend for personal use? VS2005 integration is a must, because I'm a spoiled child. Free is preferred, as this is currently only for my rare dabblings in articleable code. (moved from.. errr.. wrong forum)


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                                  Marc Soleda
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                                  Even I'm a big fan of subverion, I have to admit that I haven't tested Source Safe for VS2005. Marc Soleda.

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                                    Even I'm a big fan of subverion, I have to admit that I haven't tested Source Safe for VS2005. Marc Soleda.

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                                    gscheek
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                                    Has anyone tried QSC Team Coherence, I have been using it for a few years and it seems to work pretty good. I haven't used it much with Visual Studio though. Greg

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                                      What source control would you recommend for personal use? VS2005 integration is a must, because I'm a spoiled child. Free is preferred, as this is currently only for my rare dabblings in articleable code. (moved from.. errr.. wrong forum)


                                      We are a big screwed up dysfunctional psychotic happy family - some more screwed up, others more happy, but everybody's psychotic joint venture definition of CP
                                      Linkify! || Fold With Us! || sighist

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                                      dpatriarche
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                                      I really like Perforce -- it is hands down the best config management software I have used. Client and server both run on pretty much any platform you can name (Windows, UNIX/Linux, Mac, etc.), and the Visual Studio integration is excellent. For a small development team (1 to 2 devs) Perforce is free, and they also offer free licenses to open source projects. Cheers, Doug

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                                        Now that really sounds scary :)

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                                        Member 96
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                                        hmm...don't know how that's scary in any way. Having nothing is a scary idea.;) Actually, it's been working as a system perfectly now since at least 1996 so it's got a proven track record. Of course I also burn cd's on a regular basis and store them offsite and all this is on top of our regular daily tape backups which are also stored offsite.

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                                          I 2nd the Vault suggestion. Works great.

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                                          has anyone tried out Visual studio 2005 team foundation server (TFS)??

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