Source control (VS2005 integrated, comunity approved)
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peterchen wrote:
Does SVN run with SQL express?
It doesn't use SQL Server (Express or otherwise) as a back-end, if that's what you're asking. I suppose you could potentially add SQL Express databases to source control (SVN works reasonably well on binary files), but i've never tried this.
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What source control would you recommend for personal use? VS2005 integration is a must, because I'm a spoiled child. Free is preferred, as this is currently only for my rare dabblings in articleable code. (moved from.. errr.. wrong forum)
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Linkify! || Fold With Us! || sighistSubversion is good. On Windows I used TortoiseSVN which is integrated into Windows Explorer and works well. On Mac I use the command line, works even better. I don't think SCM IDE integration is all that useful. It is nice but I'd rather choose a good SCM and then whatever tools work for it rather than choose an SCM based on its IDE prowess. The IDE integration apps I used with Subversion were not very good.
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eh, stop bugging me about it, give it a couple of days, see what happens.
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Subversion is good. On Windows I used TortoiseSVN which is integrated into Windows Explorer and works well. On Mac I use the command line, works even better. I don't think SCM IDE integration is all that useful. It is nice but I'd rather choose a good SCM and then whatever tools work for it rather than choose an SCM based on its IDE prowess. The IDE integration apps I used with Subversion were not very good.
regards, Paul Watson Ireland FeedHenry needs you
eh, stop bugging me about it, give it a couple of days, see what happens.
Paul Watson wrote:
I don't think SCM IDE integration is all that useful.
Agree. When I was using VSS, the first thing to do was to disable its integration with Visual Studio (not a trivial thing to do)
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What source control would you recommend for personal use? VS2005 integration is a must, because I'm a spoiled child. Free is preferred, as this is currently only for my rare dabblings in articleable code. (moved from.. errr.. wrong forum)
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Linkify! || Fold With Us! || sighistPerforce integrates very well with VS, has a very good UI and is free for one single developer. The only problem is that it might be too much for one single developer. It is very powerfull in things like branching and merging projects that are completely irrelevant to small projects.
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I use a system of 20 rotating zip files made from a batch file that I can click on any time I feel like I've done something significant.
Now that really sounds scary :)
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Now that really sounds scary :)
Rocky <>< Latest Code Blog Post: ASP.NET HttpException - Cannot use leading "..".. Latest Tech Blog Post: Getting up and running on Microsoft Windows Vista
Hey now, I used that too at some point...of course, that was during like the first year of my programming experiences:laugh:
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What source control would you recommend for personal use? VS2005 integration is a must, because I'm a spoiled child. Free is preferred, as this is currently only for my rare dabblings in articleable code. (moved from.. errr.. wrong forum)
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Linkify! || Fold With Us! || sighistI've had some very bad experiences with VSS integration and VS2003/2005 (it integrated so well, that detaching it from VSS desintegrated my projects several times; I needed detaching for automated builds), so from experience I wouldn't recommend it. Because my company uses VSS, I've managed to change the policy to use VSS as a stand-alone app, not integrated from VS2005 (and ever since things work rather well). Go for SubVersion. If you use Borland Developer Studio, you can use VSS from within BDS with VssConnexxion, that on the other hand works rather well and doesn't mess up your project. Microsoft should have a look at it and rework its integration with VSS. If you are using Delphi, you can also use VssConnexxion to integrate with VSS.
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peterchen wrote:
Does SVN run with SQL express?
It doesn't use SQL Server (Express or otherwise) as a back-end, if that's what you're asking. I suppose you could potentially add SQL Express databases to source control (SVN works reasonably well on binary files), but i've never tried this.
every night, i kneel at the foot of my bed and thank the Great Overseeing Politicians for protecting my freedoms by reducing their number, as if they were deer in a state park. -- Chris Losinger, Online Poker Players?
SVN itself has een way sooo great. Just stay away from any VS integrated client and you'll be totally fine! The windows explorer based client is pretty cool though. Mohamed Ahmed Meligy Application Developer Silver Key (www.SilverKey.US) - Egypt Branch http://geekswithblogs.net/mohamed/
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What source control would you recommend for personal use? VS2005 integration is a must, because I'm a spoiled child. Free is preferred, as this is currently only for my rare dabblings in articleable code. (moved from.. errr.. wrong forum)
We are a big screwed up dysfunctional psychotic happy family - some more screwed up, others more happy, but everybody's psychotic joint venture definition of CP
Linkify! || Fold With Us! || sighisti 3rd the Sourcegear Vault suggestion. migration from vss and installation a breeze. happy customer :-D
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What source control would you recommend for personal use? VS2005 integration is a must, because I'm a spoiled child. Free is preferred, as this is currently only for my rare dabblings in articleable code. (moved from.. errr.. wrong forum)
We are a big screwed up dysfunctional psychotic happy family - some more screwed up, others more happy, but everybody's psychotic joint venture definition of CP
Linkify! || Fold With Us! || sighistEven I'm a big fan of subverion, I have to admit that I haven't tested Source Safe for VS2005. Marc Soleda.
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Even I'm a big fan of subverion, I have to admit that I haven't tested Source Safe for VS2005. Marc Soleda.
... she said you are the perfect stranger she said baby let's keep it like this... Dire Straits
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What source control would you recommend for personal use? VS2005 integration is a must, because I'm a spoiled child. Free is preferred, as this is currently only for my rare dabblings in articleable code. (moved from.. errr.. wrong forum)
We are a big screwed up dysfunctional psychotic happy family - some more screwed up, others more happy, but everybody's psychotic joint venture definition of CP
Linkify! || Fold With Us! || sighistI really like Perforce -- it is hands down the best config management software I have used. Client and server both run on pretty much any platform you can name (Windows, UNIX/Linux, Mac, etc.), and the Visual Studio integration is excellent. For a small development team (1 to 2 devs) Perforce is free, and they also offer free licenses to open source projects. Cheers, Doug
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Now that really sounds scary :)
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hmm...don't know how that's scary in any way. Having nothing is a scary idea.;) Actually, it's been working as a system perfectly now since at least 1996 so it's got a proven track record. Of course I also burn cd's on a regular basis and store them offsite and all this is on top of our regular daily tape backups which are also stored offsite.
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I 2nd the Vault suggestion. Works great.
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Impractical for a single developer like me.
Jon Sagara When I grow up, I'm changing my name to Joe Kickass! My Site | My Blog | My Articles
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I've had some very bad experiences with VSS integration and VS2003/2005 (it integrated so well, that detaching it from VSS desintegrated my projects several times; I needed detaching for automated builds), so from experience I wouldn't recommend it. Because my company uses VSS, I've managed to change the policy to use VSS as a stand-alone app, not integrated from VS2005 (and ever since things work rather well). Go for SubVersion. If you use Borland Developer Studio, you can use VSS from within BDS with VssConnexxion, that on the other hand works rather well and doesn't mess up your project. Microsoft should have a look at it and rework its integration with VSS. If you are using Delphi, you can also use VssConnexxion to integrate with VSS.
so you're saying Visual Source Safe is groovy as long as you don't use the Visual Studio Integration features?
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What source control would you recommend for personal use? VS2005 integration is a must, because I'm a spoiled child. Free is preferred, as this is currently only for my rare dabblings in articleable code. (moved from.. errr.. wrong forum)
We are a big screwed up dysfunctional psychotic happy family - some more screwed up, others more happy, but everybody's psychotic joint venture definition of CP
Linkify! || Fold With Us! || sighistI have had a lot of success with the Perforce system. And it is free for personal/small group usage. From the Perforce website:
Licensing You may use software downloaded from Perforce for any purpose you want and for as long as you like. The Perforce Server supports only two users and five client workspaces unless used with a Perforce License. We will be happy to issue you a free Evaluation License to remove the user/workspace restrictions for a limited time.The best part, is being able to access the server from any machine on the network or internet. You can use port forwarding and ssh tunneling to access the server through a firewall. -
What source control would you recommend for personal use? VS2005 integration is a must, because I'm a spoiled child. Free is preferred, as this is currently only for my rare dabblings in articleable code. (moved from.. errr.. wrong forum)
We are a big screwed up dysfunctional psychotic happy family - some more screwed up, others more happy, but everybody's psychotic joint venture definition of CP
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What source control would you recommend for personal use? VS2005 integration is a must, because I'm a spoiled child. Free is preferred, as this is currently only for my rare dabblings in articleable code. (moved from.. errr.. wrong forum)
We are a big screwed up dysfunctional psychotic happy family - some more screwed up, others more happy, but everybody's psychotic joint venture definition of CP
Linkify! || Fold With Us! || sighistPerforce (www.perforce.com) is free for up to 2 users, and is the best source control app I've used professionally. It may be a bit more complicated for the average user than some apps, but it's fast and stable (and has a great track record with professional developers).
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What source control would you recommend for personal use? VS2005 integration is a must, because I'm a spoiled child. Free is preferred, as this is currently only for my rare dabblings in articleable code. (moved from.. errr.. wrong forum)
We are a big screwed up dysfunctional psychotic happy family - some more screwed up, others more happy, but everybody's psychotic joint venture definition of CP
Linkify! || Fold With Us! || sighistWe recently switched from SourceGear Vault, which is an excellent replacement for Visual SourceSafe (this program is a no-no!) and integrates well within VS2005. Our development team is distributed around Australia, and we were using SSL to access the Vault. However, source control integration in Visual Studio we found gets in the way - we find the paradigm in Subversion much more palatable. Also as it is Open Source if we add a new developer we don't need to worry about license costs. Tortoise works extremely well and its diff/merge tools are the best I've seen. We've been much more productive with Subversion. There are a few Visual Studio integration tools for it, but I've actually appreciated not having source control in Visual Studio.