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  • C Clickok

    Installation 1) Windows restart not needed (IE7 requires a long restart) 2) Take less than 1 minute to install (IE7 took almost 5-10 minutes) 3) Even I removing the previous versions, Firefox maintained my settings and add-ons (IE7 I need set the home page again) Using 1) FAST!!! (IE7 SLOW!!!) 2) Unobtrusive Syntax Checker (I will post in CP with Firefox - less typos!) 3) My website is nicest in Firefox (IE7 is not standards compliant - not fixed the table height problems yet...) 4) I talked before what is FAST??? (IE is in each version more slow...) Cheers...


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    Firefox Rocks!!! Thunderbird too!!! :-D


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    • C Clickok

      Installation 1) Windows restart not needed (IE7 requires a long restart) 2) Take less than 1 minute to install (IE7 took almost 5-10 minutes) 3) Even I removing the previous versions, Firefox maintained my settings and add-ons (IE7 I need set the home page again) Using 1) FAST!!! (IE7 SLOW!!!) 2) Unobtrusive Syntax Checker (I will post in CP with Firefox - less typos!) 3) My website is nicest in Firefox (IE7 is not standards compliant - not fixed the table height problems yet...) 4) I talked before what is FAST??? (IE is in each version more slow...) Cheers...


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      Matt Newman
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      Installation 1&2) Heaven forbid you step away from the computer for a few minutes and experience what is called "real life". 3) OMG the horror! Though it remembered my start page. Using 1) It turns out they are equally as fast on my computer 2) Too bad it doesn't have an obtrusive grammer checker. 3) Odd my website looks nicest in IE (standards are defined by market share, not idealists) 4) Umm, wow... they really need a grammer checker.

      Matt Newman
      Even the very best tools in the hands of an idiot will produce something of little or no value. - Chris Meech on Idiots

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        Clickok wrote:

        1. Windows restart not needed (IE7 requires a long restart)

        I can install VS2005 and use it without restart. So?

        Clickok wrote:

        1. Take less than 1 minute to install (IE7 took almost 5-10 minutes)

        That is because the distribution size is small.

        Clickok wrote:

        1. Even I removing the previous versions, Firefox maintained my settings and add-ons (IE7 I need set the home page again)

        I would consider this a bad thing. I am sick of having to manually remove the leftover after uninstalling an application.

        Clickok wrote:

        1. My website is nicest in Firefox (IE7 is not standards compliant - not fixed the table height problems yet...)

        I am glad to know that your website is nicest in Firefox. But if you are implying that your website isn't nice under IE, you have a big problem. I am not againsting Firefox,but I think it just isn't as good as everyone seems to think.

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        .jpg wrote:

        I can install VS2005 and use it without restart. So?

        Good to you. Do you browse with it too?

        .jpg wrote:

        That is because the distribution size is small.

        Do you have thinked about the lot of changes what IE7 does in Windows? Firefox has minimal changes, because of needs install and run in a lot of platforms.

        .jpg wrote:

        I would consider this a bad thing. I am sick of having to manually remove the leftover after uninstalling an application.

        Good point. I agree. But maybe some these 'leftovers' need be removed before uninstalling.

        .jpg wrote:

        But if you are implying that your website isn't nice under IE, you have a big problem.

        Basic 5 stars rating: Ugliest - Ugly - Regular - Nice - Nicest my website has 5 stars in Firefox (Nicest) and 4 stars in IE7 (Nice) Not appears a big problem to me...


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        • C Clickok

          .jpg wrote:

          I can install VS2005 and use it without restart. So?

          Good to you. Do you browse with it too?

          .jpg wrote:

          That is because the distribution size is small.

          Do you have thinked about the lot of changes what IE7 does in Windows? Firefox has minimal changes, because of needs install and run in a lot of platforms.

          .jpg wrote:

          I would consider this a bad thing. I am sick of having to manually remove the leftover after uninstalling an application.

          Good point. I agree. But maybe some these 'leftovers' need be removed before uninstalling.

          .jpg wrote:

          But if you are implying that your website isn't nice under IE, you have a big problem.

          Basic 5 stars rating: Ugliest - Ugly - Regular - Nice - Nicest my website has 5 stars in Firefox (Nicest) and 4 stars in IE7 (Nice) Not appears a big problem to me...


          Jesus is Love! Tell to someone! :badger:

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          Clickok wrote:

          .jpg wrote: I can install VS2005 and use it without restart. So? Good to you. Do you browse with it too?

          You can

          Matt Newman
          Even the very best tools in the hands of an idiot will produce something of little or no value. - Chris Meech on Idiots

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          • C Clickok

            Installation 1) Windows restart not needed (IE7 requires a long restart) 2) Take less than 1 minute to install (IE7 took almost 5-10 minutes) 3) Even I removing the previous versions, Firefox maintained my settings and add-ons (IE7 I need set the home page again) Using 1) FAST!!! (IE7 SLOW!!!) 2) Unobtrusive Syntax Checker (I will post in CP with Firefox - less typos!) 3) My website is nicest in Firefox (IE7 is not standards compliant - not fixed the table height problems yet...) 4) I talked before what is FAST??? (IE is in each version more slow...) Cheers...


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            _alank
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            I am glad and find it works pretty well but still find FF 2.0 and other browsers to be less then ideal, oh well perfection will never exist. I find there are web sites that kill FF 1.5 and 2.0 that IE7 doesn't choke on. While earlier releases of IE7 were definitely sucking up memory the last one isn't. I think but I haven't checked it out thoroughly but FF still seems to have a memory leak. Yeah I use two addins so that might be why I am getting that maybe I will investigate or maybe I will just accept it? I tend to disagree with some of the sentiments about standards as the open source community I believe may be guilty of creating some standards just to thwart MS. Proving that they have done this credibly might be difficult and Ms is not without sin in this department either. So it is kind of a moot argument and just a matter of personal perspective. It would be nice if there ever were standards that got ahered too but unfortunately that seems to be our continuous battle that never gets resolved. It would be real nice if I could use either FF or IE to use SharePoint, OWA or Project Server but that unfortunately is still not the case. That also means that I need to have IE available to use such products which I frequently do use. Now on the plus side for FF and other Open Source products I say thank God they exist because without them I have no idea how much more we would have to spend on software then we currently do. So I remain as I have been already a dual browser user and add this thought. If you do web sites you have to factor your design/development to work with both (or more) or you are asking for trouble with employers and customers...

            Where did my glasses go...

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            • M Matt Newman

              Clickok wrote:

              .jpg wrote: I can install VS2005 and use it without restart. So? Good to you. Do you browse with it too?

              You can

              Matt Newman
              Even the very best tools in the hands of an idiot will produce something of little or no value. - Chris Meech on Idiots

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              Jorgen Sigvardsson
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              But then you really would be browsing with IE, wouldn't you? ;)

              -- In Hypno-Vision

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              • M Matt Newman

                Installation 1&2) Heaven forbid you step away from the computer for a few minutes and experience what is called "real life". 3) OMG the horror! Though it remembered my start page. Using 1) It turns out they are equally as fast on my computer 2) Too bad it doesn't have an obtrusive grammer checker. 3) Odd my website looks nicest in IE (standards are defined by market share, not idealists) 4) Umm, wow... they really need a grammer checker.

                Matt Newman
                Even the very best tools in the hands of an idiot will produce something of little or no value. - Chris Meech on Idiots

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                Jorgen Sigvardsson
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                Matt Newman wrote:

                Umm, wow... they really need a grammer checker.

                I think you forgot to turn on your spell checker. :)

                -- Nominated For Three Glemmys

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                  Matt Newman wrote:

                  Umm, wow... they really need a grammer checker.

                  I think you forgot to turn on your spell checker. :)

                  -- Nominated For Three Glemmys

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                  I'm running IE7 :) Though I seriously that was how you spelled it.

                  Matt Newman
                  Even the very best tools in the hands of an idiot will produce something of little or no value. - Chris Meech on Idiots

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                  • C Clickok

                    Installation 1) Windows restart not needed (IE7 requires a long restart) 2) Take less than 1 minute to install (IE7 took almost 5-10 minutes) 3) Even I removing the previous versions, Firefox maintained my settings and add-ons (IE7 I need set the home page again) Using 1) FAST!!! (IE7 SLOW!!!) 2) Unobtrusive Syntax Checker (I will post in CP with Firefox - less typos!) 3) My website is nicest in Firefox (IE7 is not standards compliant - not fixed the table height problems yet...) 4) I talked before what is FAST??? (IE is in each version more slow...) Cheers...


                    Jesus is Love! Tell to someone! :badger:

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                    Clickok wrote:

                    1. Windows restart not needed (IE7 requires a long restart)

                    That's definitely a plus although it's just a one time thing, so no big deal.

                    Clickok wrote:

                    1. Take less than 1 minute to install (IE7 took almost 5-10 minutes)

                    Again, that's great but in the grand scheme of things it's a one time savings.

                    Clickok wrote:

                    1. Even I removing the previous versions, Firefox maintained my settings and add-ons (IE7 I need set the home page again)

                    Hmm, IE7 retained my home page just fine.

                    Clickok wrote:

                    1. FAST!!! (IE7 SLOW!!!)

                    They seem to be about the same to me.

                    Clickok wrote:

                    1. Unobtrusive Syntax Checker (I will post in CP with Firefox - less typos!)

                    Spell check is a good addition. It doesn't fix a common problem though: the people who really need it can't write in the first place. Spelling is the least of their problems. I do like the spell check though - it is handy.

                    Clickok wrote:

                    1. My website is nicest in Firefox (IE7 is not standards compliant - not fixed the table height problems yet...)

                    I don't know about you, but as a developer I make sure my sites look good in all the common browsers.

                    Clickok wrote:

                    1. I talked before what is FAST??? (IE is in each version more slow...)

                    I just don't see this. IE7 seems faster than 6 on my machine. On another note, I took a look at your website. You may want to have a native english speaker review it for you. It looks like you used an online translator and, unfortunately, it did a pretty bad job. Just thought you might like to know. Cheers, Drew.

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                    • M Matt Newman

                      Clickok wrote:

                      .jpg wrote: I can install VS2005 and use it without restart. So? Good to you. Do you browse with it too?

                      You can

                      Matt Newman
                      Even the very best tools in the hands of an idiot will produce something of little or no value. - Chris Meech on Idiots

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                      _alank
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                      You used to be able to browse in MS word and you can still browse the web in Outlook via Outlook Today. Yep it is indeed the same as IE but you can't use tabs in Outlook Today, yup I checked :laugh:

                      Where did my glasses go...

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                      • J Jorgen Sigvardsson

                        But then you really would be browsing with IE, wouldn't you? ;)

                        -- In Hypno-Vision

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                        Joergen Sigvardsson wrote:

                        But then you really would be browsing with IE, wouldn't you?

                        REPOST!;P Roswell

                        "Angelinos -- excuse me. There will be civility today."
                        Antonio VillaRaigosa
                        City Mayor, Los Angeles, CA

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                          Clickok wrote:

                          1. Windows restart not needed (IE7 requires a long restart)

                          That's definitely a plus although it's just a one time thing, so no big deal.

                          Clickok wrote:

                          1. Take less than 1 minute to install (IE7 took almost 5-10 minutes)

                          Again, that's great but in the grand scheme of things it's a one time savings.

                          Clickok wrote:

                          1. Even I removing the previous versions, Firefox maintained my settings and add-ons (IE7 I need set the home page again)

                          Hmm, IE7 retained my home page just fine.

                          Clickok wrote:

                          1. FAST!!! (IE7 SLOW!!!)

                          They seem to be about the same to me.

                          Clickok wrote:

                          1. Unobtrusive Syntax Checker (I will post in CP with Firefox - less typos!)

                          Spell check is a good addition. It doesn't fix a common problem though: the people who really need it can't write in the first place. Spelling is the least of their problems. I do like the spell check though - it is handy.

                          Clickok wrote:

                          1. My website is nicest in Firefox (IE7 is not standards compliant - not fixed the table height problems yet...)

                          I don't know about you, but as a developer I make sure my sites look good in all the common browsers.

                          Clickok wrote:

                          1. I talked before what is FAST??? (IE is in each version more slow...)

                          I just don't see this. IE7 seems faster than 6 on my machine. On another note, I took a look at your website. You may want to have a native english speaker review it for you. It looks like you used an online translator and, unfortunately, it did a pretty bad job. Just thought you might like to know. Cheers, Drew.

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                          Clickok
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                          Drew Stainton wrote:

                          On another note, I took a look at your website. You may want to have a native english speaker review it for you. It looks like you used an online translator and, unfortunately, it did a pretty bad job. Just thought you might like to know.

                          Thanks, my english website is a bit "in corner", because I'm working another projects. When I fix, I will tell you ;) PS: I not used a online translator, is my english what is really bad :laugh:


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                            Joergen Sigvardsson wrote:

                            But then you really would be browsing with IE, wouldn't you?

                            REPOST!;P Roswell

                            "Angelinos -- excuse me. There will be civility today."
                            Antonio VillaRaigosa
                            City Mayor, Los Angeles, CA

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                            Jorgen Sigvardsson
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                            :laugh: The server made me do it!!!

                            -- The Show That Watches Back

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                              Installation 1) Windows restart not needed (IE7 requires a long restart) 2) Take less than 1 minute to install (IE7 took almost 5-10 minutes) 3) Even I removing the previous versions, Firefox maintained my settings and add-ons (IE7 I need set the home page again) Using 1) FAST!!! (IE7 SLOW!!!) 2) Unobtrusive Syntax Checker (I will post in CP with Firefox - less typos!) 3) My website is nicest in Firefox (IE7 is not standards compliant - not fixed the table height problems yet...) 4) I talked before what is FAST??? (IE is in each version more slow...) Cheers...


                              Jesus is Love! Tell to someone! :badger:

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                              Kevin McFarlane
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                              Clickok wrote:

                              1. Windows restart not needed (IE7 requires a long restart) 2) Take less than 1 minute to install (IE7 took almost 5-10 minutes)

                              One of the worst features of MS apps. is that they typically take longer than comparable products to install. The Restart scenarios are poor as well.

                              Kevin

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                                Clickok wrote:

                                less typos

                                That should be "fewer typos".

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                                Yeah, maybe in Firefox 3.0 they will add some feature to correct this. ;P


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                                  Clickok wrote:

                                  less typos

                                  That should be "fewer typos".

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                                  Jorgen Sigvardsson
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                                  Well, it could be less typos too. Fewr is less of a typo than frwee. :)

                                  -- Federal law prohibits changing the channel

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                                    :laugh: The server made me do it!!!

                                    -- The Show That Watches Back

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                                    Joergen Sigvardsson wrote:

                                    :laugh:The server made me do it!!!

                                    That's odd...the server usually catches me:wtf:... Roswell

                                    "Angelinos -- excuse me. There will be civility today."
                                    Antonio VillaRaigosa
                                    City Mayor, Los Angeles, CA

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                                      Clickok wrote:

                                      1. Windows restart not needed (IE7 requires a long restart)

                                      That's definitely a plus although it's just a one time thing, so no big deal.

                                      Clickok wrote:

                                      1. Take less than 1 minute to install (IE7 took almost 5-10 minutes)

                                      Again, that's great but in the grand scheme of things it's a one time savings.

                                      Clickok wrote:

                                      1. Even I removing the previous versions, Firefox maintained my settings and add-ons (IE7 I need set the home page again)

                                      Hmm, IE7 retained my home page just fine.

                                      Clickok wrote:

                                      1. FAST!!! (IE7 SLOW!!!)

                                      They seem to be about the same to me.

                                      Clickok wrote:

                                      1. Unobtrusive Syntax Checker (I will post in CP with Firefox - less typos!)

                                      Spell check is a good addition. It doesn't fix a common problem though: the people who really need it can't write in the first place. Spelling is the least of their problems. I do like the spell check though - it is handy.

                                      Clickok wrote:

                                      1. My website is nicest in Firefox (IE7 is not standards compliant - not fixed the table height problems yet...)

                                      I don't know about you, but as a developer I make sure my sites look good in all the common browsers.

                                      Clickok wrote:

                                      1. I talked before what is FAST??? (IE is in each version more slow...)

                                      I just don't see this. IE7 seems faster than 6 on my machine. On another note, I took a look at your website. You may want to have a native english speaker review it for you. It looks like you used an online translator and, unfortunately, it did a pretty bad job. Just thought you might like to know. Cheers, Drew.

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                                      Drew Stainton wrote:

                                      Clickok wrote: 1) FAST!!! (IE7 SLOW!!!) They seem to be about the same to me.

                                      I've yet to notice any significant difference in speed between the various browsers despite repeated claims (I run IE, FF and Opera). Most of the wait time is network latency so any differences in speed seem moot. I switch browsers based on feature set rather than speed or security.

                                      Kevin

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                                      • K Kevin McFarlane

                                        Clickok wrote:

                                        1. Windows restart not needed (IE7 requires a long restart) 2) Take less than 1 minute to install (IE7 took almost 5-10 minutes)

                                        One of the worst features of MS apps. is that they typically take longer than comparable products to install. The Restart scenarios are poor as well.

                                        Kevin

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                                        Kevin McFarlane wrote:

                                        One of the worst features of MS apps. is that they typically take longer than comparable products to install. The Restart scenarios are poor as well.

                                        Until you try Adobe at which time you can't wait to go back to Microsoft. Just installing updates to their CS2 package last week required 2 restarts. The full install took over 90 minutes (and a restart). Cheers, Drew.

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                                          Kevin McFarlane wrote:

                                          One of the worst features of MS apps. is that they typically take longer than comparable products to install. The Restart scenarios are poor as well.

                                          Until you try Adobe at which time you can't wait to go back to Microsoft. Just installing updates to their CS2 package last week required 2 restarts. The full install took over 90 minutes (and a restart). Cheers, Drew.

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                                          Only Adobe I've used is the Reader.

                                          Kevin

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